The Cassiopeia Project

[raymondo the great]

Well I'm calling it a day, had a few BSoD's today so time to update the gfx drivers in the morning, meanwhile I took a slight detour on the way to Kappa and am at the really bright NGC nebula with the loads of really super bright stars.

Been there once before, 6 months back, but that trip ended in failure, I like it so I thought I'd visit some of the systems again, lots with multiple black holes and such.

 

[Jaiotu]

Sorry that I've missed putting up a mission update for today. I've been busy with some real world things and working on the math for the search for Tycho G. I'll get an update out soon.

 

[Jaiotu]

MISSION UPDATE - 10 NOV 3302

Today's waypoint is 27 Gamma Cassiopeiae, the last star in the Cassiopeia "W" asterism. Everyone should have been able to make it to Segin on the 9th. Good job! With 27 Gamma Cassiopeiae under our belts we've visited all of the stars of the classical Cassiopeia constellation. After Gamma Cassiopeia our next target will be AR Cassiopeia on Saturday. Due to work schedule I may not be able to interact much on Saturday. Cpt.Bilsn has agreed to step in and help organize things if his own schedule permits. In other words: Don't be afraid to organize things on your own guys! If you'd like to do an SRV race or practice refueling drills ... go for it!

I've been working on the math for the hunt for Tycho G. I'm still not 100% that my calculations are correct so I'll be going over them. Here are the coordinates that I've managed to come up with. Warning: It is a daunting list!

Spoiler

REDACTED. Please see later post from hiciacit that contains the proper coordinates.

My biggest fear is that I've got the math wrong. I'll be working to verify things prior to November 19th, the day when the actual hunt begins. Coordinates are set with 100 light year intervals. I'm proposing that we create a spreadsheet in which Commanders can volunteer to search the area surrounding each 100 light year block. We're looking for class G2 stars the fall within about 100 light years of any of the waypoints. I'm basing the large line of coordinates on the fact that Wikipedia states that the Tycho SNR is anywhere from 6,500 and 16,300 light-years from Sol. That is nearly a 10,000 light year stretch! I'll be working diligently to try and narrow this down which means a lot of research along with the research to double check that I'm getting the math right converting Galactic Coordinates to Elite's galaxy map.

I'll post more soon. Until then: Keep flying!

 

[Muetdhiver]

Hi Jaiotu,

Pretty sure the numbers are right, but the signs for two last ones are wrong (fairly sure of that).

Eg : -7005.9, -171.92, 4061.7 should be -7005.9, 171.92, -4061.7

This is easy to see as -7005.9, -171.92, 4061.7 would be near 60° in gal long, and not 120° when looking at the gal map.
(For ez check, look at the H&S neb coords in ED, signs for X/Y should be the same)
Also, positive latitudes are above the plane (so positive values in ED), since Tycho is at +1.4° gal lat it should be positive.

Hope this helps and please double check, I made mistakes before with those gal coord to ED coord transformations...

 

[Jaiotu]

Hi Jaiotu,

Pretty sure the numbers are right, but the signs for two last ones are wrong (fairly sure of that).

Eg : -7005.9, -171.92, 4061.7 should be -7005.9, 171.92, -4061.7

This is easy to see as -7005.9, -171.92, 4061.7 would be near 60° in gal long, and not 120° when looking at the gal map.
(For ez check, look at the H&S neb coords in ED, signs for X/Y should be the same)
Also, positive latitudes are above the plane (so positive values in ED), since Tycho is at +1.4° gal lat it should be positive.

Hope this helps and please double check, I made mistakes before with those gal coord to ED coord transformations...

Thanks for the pointers! I am really, really working on trying to figure this out. I'm using this site here that lorrad pointed me to: http://www.random-science-tools.com/maths/coordinate-converter.htm

The problem is that galactic coordinates are flipped so that, if you were looking forward to 0 degrees, 90 degrees would be on your left not on your right like we are used to. My most recent conversions using this tool are rendering the numbers just like you said with X being negative, Y positive and Z negative so I think I'm finally getting this sorted out. Here is an example:

I tried to find Achenar with this tool. Simbad's database has Achernar's galactic coordinates at 290.8412 -58.7920. Wikipedia says that Achernar is 139 light years from Sol. That gives me the following spherical coordinates: 139,290.8412,-58.7920.

Recognizing that galactic coordinates are "flipped" I reverse the polarity of the second number (the first number of the galactic coordinates) and that gives me 139, -290.8412, -58.7920. Now I plug that into the conversion tool:

The tool puts Achenar at 67.3099, -111.107, 49.4533. EDSM says that Achenar is at 67.5 / -119.46875 / 24.84375. That is fairly close but not quite spot on. I'm still trying to figure out where the deviation is coming in.

 

[RatPhink]

I'm not sure if they've already spoken to this, but has anyone tried shooting an email to FDev and ask for any info they would be willing to share about the process they used to place stars?

Assuming that they would be responsive, it would help not only is but anyone looking for sepecifc bodies.

Even if they don't want to give out details. Just something as simple as knowing how they chose distance from Sol.

 

[hiciacit]

Thanks for the pointers! I am really, really working on trying to figure this out. I'm using this site here that lorrad pointed me to: http://www.random-science-tools.com/maths/coordinate-converter.htm

The problem is that galactic coordinates are flipped so that, if you were looking forward to 0 degrees, 90 degrees would be on your left not on your right like we are used to. My most recent conversions using this tool are rendering the numbers just like you said with X being negative, Y positive and Z negative so I think I'm finally getting this sorted out. Here is an example:

I tried to find Achenar with this tool. Simbad's database has Achernar's galactic coordinates at 290.8412 -58.7920. Wikipedia says that Achernar is 139 light years from Sol. That gives me the following spherical coordinates: 139,290.8412,-58.7920.

Recognizing that galactic coordinates are "flipped" I reverse the polarity of the second number (the first number of the galactic coordinates) and that gives me 139, -290.8412, -58.7920. Now I plug that into the conversion tool:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27261246/coordinates.PNG

The tool puts Achenar at 67.3099, -111.107, 49.4533. EDSM says that Achenar is at 67.5 / -119.46875 / 24.84375. That is fairly close but not quite spot on. I'm still trying to figure out where the deviation is coming in.

Not sure what the problem is with your calculation. I get this x=67.312894 y=-118.829663 z=25.874419 when I run it through the script I posted earlier (starting from the equatorial coordinates on Wikipedia), which matches fairly well with ED.

Edit: That would be this script https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/297941-The-Cassiopeia-Project?p=4674942&viewfull=1#post4674942. Maybe the reason why you get worse results is because FD started from equatorial coordinates + distances to place known stars in their galaxy? If their galactic center is slightly shifted you would get worse results converting from galactic coordinates instead of equatorial ones.

 

[raymondo the great]

I'm not sure if they've already spoken to this, but has anyone tried shooting an email to FDev and ask for any info they would be willing to share about the process they used to place stars?

Assuming that they would be responsive, it would help not only is but anyone looking for sepecifc bodies.

Even if they don't want to give out details. Just something as simple as knowing how they chose distance from Sol.

good idea!

Why not try emailing Brett see if he can find someone who could help?

 

[Jaiotu]

Not sure what the problem is with your calculation. I get this x=67.312894 y=-118.829663 z=25.874419 when I run it through the script I posted earlier (starting from the equatorial coordinates on Wikipedia), which matches fairly well with ED.

Edit: That would be this script https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/297941-The-Cassiopeia-Project?p=4674942&viewfull=1#post4674942. Maybe the reason why you get worse results is because FD started from equatorial coordinates + distances to place known stars in their galaxy? If their galactic center is slightly shifted you would get worse results converting from galactic coordinates instead of equatorial ones.

Looks like your script wins! I was hoping to shortcut things with a "out of the box" solution but your code is almost spot on. I'll regenerate the list of systems coordinates when I get home. I'll also try to narrow down the search corridor. We'll never finish all 10,000 light years in the two weeks allotted for the seach for Tycho G. I definitely want to focus the month of December on the search for Cas A which, I believe, will be a more important find.

 

[hiciacit]

Looks like your script wins! I was hoping to shortcut things with a "out of the box" solution but your code is almost spot on. I'll regenerate the list of systems coordinates when I get home. I'll also try to narrow down the search corridor. We'll never finish all 10,000 light years in the two weeks allotted for the seach for Tycho G. I definitely want to focus the month of December on the search for Cas A which, I believe, will be a more important find.

No need to do them one by one! Script can easily be adapted to generate coordinates along a certain direction. Here's for generating 100Ly steps going from 6500 to 16400 Ly (from Sol) in the direction of Tycho:

import sys, os
import numpy as np
sys.path.append(os.path.dirname(__file__) + "lib64/python2.7/site-packages")

import ephem
import math

def eq2ed(ra,dec,r):        # Convert J2000 right ascension, declination, and distance (ly) to ED X,Y,Z
    eq = ephem.Equatorial(ra,dec)
    gal = ephem.Galactic(eq)
    x = r * math.cos(gal.lat) * -math.sin(gal.lon)
    y = r * math.sin(gal.lat)
    z = r * math.cos(gal.lat) * math.cos(gal.lon)
    print('x=%f y=%f z=%f' % (x,y,z))

def ed2eq(x,y,z):        # Convert ED X,Y,Z to J2000 right ascension, declination, and distance (ly)
    r = math.sqrt(x*x+y*y+z*z)
    lat = math.asin(y/r)
    lon = math.atan2(-x,z)
    gal = ephem.Galactic(lon,lat)
    eq = ephem.Equatorial(gal)
    print('ra=%s dec=%s dist=%f' % (eq.ra,eq.dec,r))

# [PUT YOUR DATA BELOW HERE]

# List of coordinates in the Tycho direction
R = np.arange(6500,16400,100)
ra = '0:25:22'
dec = '64:09:0'
for r in R:
    eq2ed(ra,dec,r)

And the result of that:

Spoiler

x=-5627.946352 y=153.010617 z=-3248.508522
x=-5714.530142 y=155.364626 z=-3298.485576
x=-5801.113932 y=157.718636 z=-3348.462630
x=-5887.697722 y=160.072645 z=-3398.439684
x=-5974.281512 y=162.426655 z=-3448.416738
x=-6060.865302 y=164.780664 z=-3498.393792
x=-6147.449092 y=167.134674 z=-3548.370847
x=-6234.032882 y=169.488683 z=-3598.347901
x=-6320.616672 y=171.842693 z=-3648.324955
x=-6407.200462 y=174.196702 z=-3698.302009
x=-6493.784252 y=176.550712 z=-3748.279063
x=-6580.368042 y=178.904721 z=-3798.256117
x=-6666.951832 y=181.258731 z=-3848.233172
x=-6753.535622 y=183.612740 z=-3898.210226
x=-6840.119412 y=185.966750 z=-3948.187280
x=-6926.703202 y=188.320759 z=-3998.164334
x=-7013.286992 y=190.674769 z=-4048.141388
x=-7099.870782 y=193.028778 z=-4098.118443
x=-7186.454572 y=195.382788 z=-4148.095497
x=-7273.038362 y=197.736797 z=-4198.072551
x=-7359.622152 y=200.090807 z=-4248.049605
x=-7446.205942 y=202.444816 z=-4298.026659
x=-7532.789732 y=204.798826 z=-4348.003713
x=-7619.373522 y=207.152835 z=-4397.980768
x=-7705.957312 y=209.506845 z=-4447.957822
x=-7792.541102 y=211.860854 z=-4497.934876
x=-7879.124892 y=214.214864 z=-4547.911930
x=-7965.708682 y=216.568873 z=-4597.888984
x=-8052.292472 y=218.922883 z=-4647.866038
x=-8138.876262 y=221.276892 z=-4697.843093
x=-8225.460052 y=223.630902 z=-4747.820147
x=-8312.043842 y=225.984911 z=-4797.797201
x=-8398.627632 y=228.338921 z=-4847.774255
x=-8485.211422 y=230.692930 z=-4897.751309
x=-8571.795212 y=233.046940 z=-4947.728364
x=-8658.379002 y=235.400949 z=-4997.705418
x=-8744.962793 y=237.754959 z=-5047.682472
x=-8831.546583 y=240.108968 z=-5097.659526
x=-8918.130373 y=242.462978 z=-5147.636580
x=-9004.714163 y=244.816987 z=-5197.613634
x=-9091.297953 y=247.170997 z=-5247.590689
x=-9177.881743 y=249.525006 z=-5297.567743
x=-9264.465533 y=251.879016 z=-5347.544797
x=-9351.049323 y=254.233025 z=-5397.521851
x=-9437.633113 y=256.587034 z=-5447.498905
x=-9524.216903 y=258.941044 z=-5497.475959
x=-9610.800693 y=261.295053 z=-5547.453014
x=-9697.384483 y=263.649063 z=-5597.430068
x=-9783.968273 y=266.003072 z=-5647.407122
x=-9870.552063 y=268.357082 z=-5697.384176
x=-9957.135853 y=270.711091 z=-5747.361230
x=-10043.719643 y=273.065101 z=-5797.338285
x=-10130.303433 y=275.419110 z=-5847.315339
x=-10216.887223 y=277.773120 z=-5897.292393
x=-10303.471013 y=280.127129 z=-5947.269447
x=-10390.054803 y=282.481139 z=-5997.246501
x=-10476.638593 y=284.835148 z=-6047.223555
x=-10563.222383 y=287.189158 z=-6097.200610
x=-10649.806173 y=289.543167 z=-6147.177664
x=-10736.389963 y=291.897177 z=-6197.154718
x=-10822.973753 y=294.251186 z=-6247.131772
x=-10909.557543 y=296.605196 z=-6297.108826
x=-10996.141333 y=298.959205 z=-6347.085881
x=-11082.725123 y=301.313215 z=-6397.062935
x=-11169.308913 y=303.667224 z=-6447.039989
x=-11255.892703 y=306.021234 z=-6497.017043
x=-11342.476493 y=308.375243 z=-6546.994097
x=-11429.060283 y=310.729253 z=-6596.971151
x=-11515.644073 y=313.083262 z=-6646.948206
x=-11602.227863 y=315.437272 z=-6696.925260
x=-11688.811653 y=317.791281 z=-6746.902314
x=-11775.395443 y=320.145291 z=-6796.879368
x=-11861.979233 y=322.499300 z=-6846.856422
x=-11948.563023 y=324.853310 z=-6896.833476
x=-12035.146813 y=327.207319 z=-6946.810531
x=-12121.730603 y=329.561329 z=-6996.787585
x=-12208.314394 y=331.915338 z=-7046.764639
x=-12294.898184 y=334.269348 z=-7096.741693
x=-12381.481974 y=336.623357 z=-7146.718747
x=-12468.065764 y=338.977367 z=-7196.695802
x=-12554.649554 y=341.331376 z=-7246.672856
x=-12641.233344 y=343.685386 z=-7296.649910
x=-12727.817134 y=346.039395 z=-7346.626964
x=-12814.400924 y=348.393405 z=-7396.604018
x=-12900.984714 y=350.747414 z=-7446.581072
x=-12987.568504 y=353.101424 z=-7496.558127
x=-13074.152294 y=355.455433 z=-7546.535181
x=-13160.736084 y=357.809443 z=-7596.512235
x=-13247.319874 y=360.163452 z=-7646.489289
x=-13333.903664 y=362.517462 z=-7696.466343
x=-13420.487454 y=364.871471 z=-7746.443397
x=-13507.071244 y=367.225481 z=-7796.420452
x=-13593.655034 y=369.579490 z=-7846.397506
x=-13680.238824 y=371.933500 z=-7896.374560
x=-13766.822614 y=374.287509 z=-7946.351614
x=-13853.406404 y=376.641519 z=-7996.328668
x=-13939.990194 y=378.995528 z=-8046.305723
x=-14026.573984 y=381.349537 z=-8096.282777
x=-14113.157774 y=383.703547 z=-8146.259831

 

[Jaiotu]

No need to do them one by one! Script can easily be adapted to generate coordinates along a certain direction. Here's for generating 100Ly steps going from 6500 to 16400 Ly (from Sol) in the direction of Tycho:

import sys, os
import numpy as np
sys.path.append(os.path.dirname(__file__) + "lib64/python2.7/site-packages")

import ephem
import math

def eq2ed(ra,dec,r):        # Convert J2000 right ascension, declination, and distance (ly) to ED X,Y,Z
    eq = ephem.Equatorial(ra,dec)
    gal = ephem.Galactic(eq)
    x = r * math.cos(gal.lat) * -math.sin(gal.lon)
    y = r * math.sin(gal.lat)
    z = r * math.cos(gal.lat) * math.cos(gal.lon)
    print('x=%f y=%f z=%f' % (x,y,z))

def ed2eq(x,y,z):        # Convert ED X,Y,Z to J2000 right ascension, declination, and distance (ly)
    r = math.sqrt(x*x+y*y+z*z)
    lat = math.asin(y/r)
    lon = math.atan2(-x,z)
    gal = ephem.Galactic(lon,lat)
    eq = ephem.Equatorial(gal)
    print('ra=%s dec=%s dist=%f' % (eq.ra,eq.dec,r))

# [PUT YOUR DATA BELOW HERE]

# List of coordinates in the Tycho direction
R = np.arange(6500,16400,100)
ra = '0:25:22'
dec = '64:09:0'
for r in R:
    eq2ed(ra,dec,r)

And the result of that:

Spoiler

x=-5627.946352 y=153.010617 z=-3248.508522
x=-5714.530142 y=155.364626 z=-3298.485576
x=-5801.113932 y=157.718636 z=-3348.462630
x=-5887.697722 y=160.072645 z=-3398.439684
x=-5974.281512 y=162.426655 z=-3448.416738
x=-6060.865302 y=164.780664 z=-3498.393792
x=-6147.449092 y=167.134674 z=-3548.370847
x=-6234.032882 y=169.488683 z=-3598.347901
x=-6320.616672 y=171.842693 z=-3648.324955
x=-6407.200462 y=174.196702 z=-3698.302009
x=-6493.784252 y=176.550712 z=-3748.279063
x=-6580.368042 y=178.904721 z=-3798.256117
x=-6666.951832 y=181.258731 z=-3848.233172
x=-6753.535622 y=183.612740 z=-3898.210226
x=-6840.119412 y=185.966750 z=-3948.187280
x=-6926.703202 y=188.320759 z=-3998.164334
x=-7013.286992 y=190.674769 z=-4048.141388
x=-7099.870782 y=193.028778 z=-4098.118443
x=-7186.454572 y=195.382788 z=-4148.095497
x=-7273.038362 y=197.736797 z=-4198.072551
x=-7359.622152 y=200.090807 z=-4248.049605
x=-7446.205942 y=202.444816 z=-4298.026659
x=-7532.789732 y=204.798826 z=-4348.003713
x=-7619.373522 y=207.152835 z=-4397.980768
x=-7705.957312 y=209.506845 z=-4447.957822
x=-7792.541102 y=211.860854 z=-4497.934876
x=-7879.124892 y=214.214864 z=-4547.911930
x=-7965.708682 y=216.568873 z=-4597.888984
x=-8052.292472 y=218.922883 z=-4647.866038
x=-8138.876262 y=221.276892 z=-4697.843093
x=-8225.460052 y=223.630902 z=-4747.820147
x=-8312.043842 y=225.984911 z=-4797.797201
x=-8398.627632 y=228.338921 z=-4847.774255
x=-8485.211422 y=230.692930 z=-4897.751309
x=-8571.795212 y=233.046940 z=-4947.728364
x=-8658.379002 y=235.400949 z=-4997.705418
x=-8744.962793 y=237.754959 z=-5047.682472
x=-8831.546583 y=240.108968 z=-5097.659526
x=-8918.130373 y=242.462978 z=-5147.636580
x=-9004.714163 y=244.816987 z=-5197.613634
x=-9091.297953 y=247.170997 z=-5247.590689
x=-9177.881743 y=249.525006 z=-5297.567743
x=-9264.465533 y=251.879016 z=-5347.544797
x=-9351.049323 y=254.233025 z=-5397.521851
x=-9437.633113 y=256.587034 z=-5447.498905
x=-9524.216903 y=258.941044 z=-5497.475959
x=-9610.800693 y=261.295053 z=-5547.453014
x=-9697.384483 y=263.649063 z=-5597.430068
x=-9783.968273 y=266.003072 z=-5647.407122
x=-9870.552063 y=268.357082 z=-5697.384176
x=-9957.135853 y=270.711091 z=-5747.361230
x=-10043.719643 y=273.065101 z=-5797.338285
x=-10130.303433 y=275.419110 z=-5847.315339
x=-10216.887223 y=277.773120 z=-5897.292393
x=-10303.471013 y=280.127129 z=-5947.269447
x=-10390.054803 y=282.481139 z=-5997.246501
x=-10476.638593 y=284.835148 z=-6047.223555
x=-10563.222383 y=287.189158 z=-6097.200610
x=-10649.806173 y=289.543167 z=-6147.177664
x=-10736.389963 y=291.897177 z=-6197.154718
x=-10822.973753 y=294.251186 z=-6247.131772
x=-10909.557543 y=296.605196 z=-6297.108826
x=-10996.141333 y=298.959205 z=-6347.085881
x=-11082.725123 y=301.313215 z=-6397.062935
x=-11169.308913 y=303.667224 z=-6447.039989
x=-11255.892703 y=306.021234 z=-6497.017043
x=-11342.476493 y=308.375243 z=-6546.994097
x=-11429.060283 y=310.729253 z=-6596.971151
x=-11515.644073 y=313.083262 z=-6646.948206
x=-11602.227863 y=315.437272 z=-6696.925260
x=-11688.811653 y=317.791281 z=-6746.902314
x=-11775.395443 y=320.145291 z=-6796.879368
x=-11861.979233 y=322.499300 z=-6846.856422
x=-11948.563023 y=324.853310 z=-6896.833476
x=-12035.146813 y=327.207319 z=-6946.810531
x=-12121.730603 y=329.561329 z=-6996.787585
x=-12208.314394 y=331.915338 z=-7046.764639
x=-12294.898184 y=334.269348 z=-7096.741693
x=-12381.481974 y=336.623357 z=-7146.718747
x=-12468.065764 y=338.977367 z=-7196.695802
x=-12554.649554 y=341.331376 z=-7246.672856
x=-12641.233344 y=343.685386 z=-7296.649910
x=-12727.817134 y=346.039395 z=-7346.626964
x=-12814.400924 y=348.393405 z=-7396.604018
x=-12900.984714 y=350.747414 z=-7446.581072
x=-12987.568504 y=353.101424 z=-7496.558127
x=-13074.152294 y=355.455433 z=-7546.535181
x=-13160.736084 y=357.809443 z=-7596.512235
x=-13247.319874 y=360.163452 z=-7646.489289
x=-13333.903664 y=362.517462 z=-7696.466343
x=-13420.487454 y=364.871471 z=-7746.443397
x=-13507.071244 y=367.225481 z=-7796.420452
x=-13593.655034 y=369.579490 z=-7846.397506
x=-13680.238824 y=371.933500 z=-7896.374560
x=-13766.822614 y=374.287509 z=-7946.351614
x=-13853.406404 y=376.641519 z=-7996.328668
x=-13939.990194 y=378.995528 z=-8046.305723
x=-14026.573984 y=381.349537 z=-8096.282777
x=-14113.157774 y=383.703547 z=-8146.259831

Awesome!

 

[Jaiotu]

Mission Itinerary for week two has been posted to the first page. Repeating it here for the timeline:

Mission Iternary - Week Two: Nov 13 - 18

Time to get clear of the Bubble! We'll be pushing to arrive in Kappa Cassiopeia by the middle of the week. I plan to hit Kappa Cas no later than Tuesday. The goal is to reach the following coordinates by Saturday, November 19th and begin the search for Tycho G. I'll try and post a video before hand explaining the exact procedure we'll be using to locate candidate systems.

What is a candidate system? This is any system near our plotted line that could 'plausibly' be Tycho G. These are "G2" class stars that lie close to where Tycho's SNR *should* be in the galaxy. hiciacit has graciously calculated the following coordinates at 100 light year intervals:

Spoiler

x=-5627.946352 y=153.010617 z=-3248.508522
x=-5714.530142 y=155.364626 z=-3298.485576
x=-5801.113932 y=157.718636 z=-3348.462630
x=-5887.697722 y=160.072645 z=-3398.439684
x=-5974.281512 y=162.426655 z=-3448.416738
x=-6060.865302 y=164.780664 z=-3498.393792
x=-6147.449092 y=167.134674 z=-3548.370847
x=-6234.032882 y=169.488683 z=-3598.347901
x=-6320.616672 y=171.842693 z=-3648.324955
x=-6407.200462 y=174.196702 z=-3698.302009
x=-6493.784252 y=176.550712 z=-3748.279063
x=-6580.368042 y=178.904721 z=-3798.256117
x=-6666.951832 y=181.258731 z=-3848.233172
x=-6753.535622 y=183.612740 z=-3898.210226
x=-6840.119412 y=185.966750 z=-3948.187280
x=-6926.703202 y=188.320759 z=-3998.164334
x=-7013.286992 y=190.674769 z=-4048.141388
x=-7099.870782 y=193.028778 z=-4098.118443
x=-7186.454572 y=195.382788 z=-4148.095497
x=-7273.038362 y=197.736797 z=-4198.072551
x=-7359.622152 y=200.090807 z=-4248.049605
x=-7446.205942 y=202.444816 z=-4298.026659
x=-7532.789732 y=204.798826 z=-4348.003713
x=-7619.373522 y=207.152835 z=-4397.980768
x=-7705.957312 y=209.506845 z=-4447.957822
x=-7792.541102 y=211.860854 z=-4497.934876
x=-7879.124892 y=214.214864 z=-4547.911930
x=-7965.708682 y=216.568873 z=-4597.888984
x=-8052.292472 y=218.922883 z=-4647.866038
x=-8138.876262 y=221.276892 z=-4697.843093
x=-8225.460052 y=223.630902 z=-4747.820147
x=-8312.043842 y=225.984911 z=-4797.797201
x=-8398.627632 y=228.338921 z=-4847.774255
x=-8485.211422 y=230.692930 z=-4897.751309
x=-8571.795212 y=233.046940 z=-4947.728364
x=-8658.379002 y=235.400949 z=-4997.705418
x=-8744.962793 y=237.754959 z=-5047.682472
x=-8831.546583 y=240.108968 z=-5097.659526
x=-8918.130373 y=242.462978 z=-5147.636580
x=-9004.714163 y=244.816987 z=-5197.613634
x=-9091.297953 y=247.170997 z=-5247.590689
x=-9177.881743 y=249.525006 z=-5297.567743
x=-9264.465533 y=251.879016 z=-5347.544797
x=-9351.049323 y=254.233025 z=-5397.521851
x=-9437.633113 y=256.587034 z=-5447.498905
x=-9524.216903 y=258.941044 z=-5497.475959
x=-9610.800693 y=261.295053 z=-5547.453014
x=-9697.384483 y=263.649063 z=-5597.430068
x=-9783.968273 y=266.003072 z=-5647.407122
x=-9870.552063 y=268.357082 z=-5697.384176
x=-9957.135853 y=270.711091 z=-5747.361230
x=-10043.719643 y=273.065101 z=-5797.338285
x=-10130.303433 y=275.419110 z=-5847.315339
x=-10216.887223 y=277.773120 z=-5897.292393
x=-10303.471013 y=280.127129 z=-5947.269447
x=-10390.054803 y=282.481139 z=-5997.246501
x=-10476.638593 y=284.835148 z=-6047.223555
x=-10563.222383 y=287.189158 z=-6097.200610
x=-10649.806173 y=289.543167 z=-6147.177664
x=-10736.389963 y=291.897177 z=-6197.154718
x=-10822.973753 y=294.251186 z=-6247.131772
x=-10909.557543 y=296.605196 z=-6297.108826
x=-10996.141333 y=298.959205 z=-6347.085881
x=-11082.725123 y=301.313215 z=-6397.062935
x=-11169.308913 y=303.667224 z=-6447.039989
x=-11255.892703 y=306.021234 z=-6497.017043
x=-11342.476493 y=308.375243 z=-6546.994097
x=-11429.060283 y=310.729253 z=-6596.971151
x=-11515.644073 y=313.083262 z=-6646.948206
x=-11602.227863 y=315.437272 z=-6696.925260
x=-11688.811653 y=317.791281 z=-6746.902314
x=-11775.395443 y=320.145291 z=-6796.879368
x=-11861.979233 y=322.499300 z=-6846.856422
x=-11948.563023 y=324.853310 z=-6896.833476
x=-12035.146813 y=327.207319 z=-6946.810531
x=-12121.730603 y=329.561329 z=-6996.787585
x=-12208.314394 y=331.915338 z=-7046.764639
x=-12294.898184 y=334.269348 z=-7096.741693
x=-12381.481974 y=336.623357 z=-7146.718747
x=-12468.065764 y=338.977367 z=-7196.695802
x=-12554.649554 y=341.331376 z=-7246.672856
x=-12641.233344 y=343.685386 z=-7296.649910
x=-12727.817134 y=346.039395 z=-7346.626964
x=-12814.400924 y=348.393405 z=-7396.604018
x=-12900.984714 y=350.747414 z=-7446.581072
x=-12987.568504 y=353.101424 z=-7496.558127
x=-13074.152294 y=355.455433 z=-7546.535181
x=-13160.736084 y=357.809443 z=-7596.512235
x=-13247.319874 y=360.163452 z=-7646.489289
x=-13333.903664 y=362.517462 z=-7696.466343
x=-13420.487454 y=364.871471 z=-7746.443397
x=-13507.071244 y=367.225481 z=-7796.420452
x=-13593.655034 y=369.579490 z=-7846.397506
x=-13680.238824 y=371.933500 z=-7896.374560
x=-13766.822614 y=374.287509 z=-7946.351614
x=-13853.406404 y=376.641519 z=-7996.328668
x=-13939.990194 y=378.995528 z=-8046.305723
x=-14026.573984 y=381.349537 z=-8096.282777
x=-14113.157774 y=383.703547 z=-8146.259831

The basic plan will be this:
1. Narrow down the search to the most likely distance where Tycho G should be located. We'll concentrate on this smaller subset of coordinates first and move on to the wider range if time permits.
2. Each team member will 'sign up' for one or more of the targeted coordinates, fly to whatever system is closest to those coordinates and scan the local area on the galaxy map for every G2 class star within a 60 light year radius.
3. Commander conducting the survey will target SOL in the galaxy map and then pilot his or her ship is facing directly AWAY from SOL and grab a screenshot.
4. Said Commander will then check the navigation panel for any systems that do not appear on the galaxy map. This is a theoretical search as we are not currently aware that any such systems exist.
5. Commander will visit any G2 class system identified in step #2.
6. Commander will report the results of the search in this forum before moving to another location to repeat the process.

I fully expect this search to be fairly tedious. I am sorry. There is no easy way to do this. We'll conduct this survey until November 30th when we will then depart for the search for Cassiopeia A.

The Cas A search will follow a similar routine but should be much quicker/easier thanks to the limited number of neutron stars.

 

[Jaiotu]

I have an excellent target for a Fuel Rat rescue. Professor Steven Eisler failed to set his route filter and has a nearly dry fuel tank.

Current system: Synuefai YF-T A44-0

I can have him online around 15:00 on November 12, 3302.

 

[Cpt.Bilsn]

I have an excellent target for a Fuel Rat rescue. Professor Steven Eisler failed to set his route filter and has a nearly try fuel tank.

Current system: Synuefai YF-T A44-0

I can have him online around 15:00 on November 12, 3302.

Looks like we have our rescue drill scheduled then! I suggest you have the distress call posted on discord. Thanks to some testing cmdr Jonuss helped me with, I was able to find out how exactly "mentions" work there and I'll be setting up a separate channel for distress calls.

Post your distress call either on general channel or distress channel for "@rescue" and everyone with rescue role will get it highlighted and will find it under his "@" (mentions) tab which is on top right of discord window. Sadly I am at work on 12th so I can't participate but I encourage anyone who is interested to participate on rescue and/or setting a rescue drill. We could schedule some drills around 15:00 around professor's rescue anothers could take place around 21:00-22:00 when more folks are around.

Also I have created a channel for posting jumponium systems so post about them don't get buried in general chat. Feel free to use it commanders, if you like.

One last thing: I am updating general channel's topic with current events and pining posts with information announcements (you can find pinned posts under the pin icon top right of window), so if you are new to discord or haven't noticed yet, you might find it informative.

 

[Commander William Diffin]

I can, if there is interest for it, set up "armed" role for discord, akin to "rescue". It would provide a clear indication of those who go combat ready for other expedition members and a more convenient way to call for their help in the event of something going horribly wrong.

Ok, I said that normally I explore unarmed, but after the talk of armaments I've been busy and have refitted the Pourquoi Pas? for combat, max range reduced to 50.5L-y on empty. Upgraded armour, core modules, shields, 6 G/MCs including 2 Med, 3 Large, and 1 Huge Incendiary G/MC. Even a Taipan Heavy Fighter with sexy pilot. Serious business. If there is an 'armed' role, you need to put me on that too

 

[Cpt.Bilsn]

Ok, I said that normally I explore unarmed, but after the talk of armaments I've been busy and have refitted the Pourquoi Pas? for combat, max range reduced to 50.5L-y on empty. Upgraded armour, core modules, shields, 6 G/MCs including 2 Med, 3 Large, and 1 Huge Incendiary G/MC. Even a Taipan Heavy Fighter with sexy pilot. Serious business. If there is an 'armed' role, you need to put me on that too

We have a bulwark role for armed expedition members who are willing to help if something goes horribly bad. I'll either set you up tomorrow when I get from work or you can ask commander PaderIcon who is helping me with our Discord as a moderator.

 

[Jaiotu]

Rescue of CMDR Steven Eisler was a success. First on the scene was CMDR Halceon who provided moral support and documented the event. There was, of course, instancing issues and CMDR Diffin had issues catching up with us. Meanwhile CMDR Jonuss made a mad dash from 600+ light years.

Although Diffin actually arrived first he dropped about 30KM from Eisler's position giving Jonuss time to close the distance and actually arrive and begin the refueling just moments before Diffin closed that 30KM gap. Jonuss didn't stop there! He regenerated Eisler's shields as well!

 

[Jonuss]

Rescue of CMDR Steven Eisler was a success. First on the scene was CMDR Halceon who provided moral support and documented the event. There was, of course, instancing issues and CMDR Diffin had issues catching up with us. Meanwhile CMDR Jonuss made a mad dash from 600+ light years.

1100ly! In 20 minutes!

 

[RatPhink]

1100ly! In 20 minutes!

[video=youtube;ygE01sOhzz0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygE01sOhzz0&index=1&list=RDygE01sOhzz0[/video]

 

[Capt. Paul Kavinsky]

I found a curious rock formation at the waypoint for the 13th. large rocks and I was able to drive through them or when I looked at them they went invisible. I have screenshot.