The Dark Wheel and Sol Conspiracy

I believe the entire "Turning the Wheel" initiative is a work created or, at the very least, encouraged by Fdev. I will provide my two main thought lines for this assumption as well as a RP perspective if that entertains you.

FIrstly, the assumption that Raxxla must be in Sol because it was first 'honked' and unnoticed by a CMDR in 2015.
While this may seem like a valid assertion at first glance, I find it easily debatable once you familiarize yourself with the galaxy and ED's inner workings. The odds of the first CMDR flying through our home system, giving it a quick scan and leaving without a second glance or further investigation are astronomical at best. It may not be difficult to get your permit to Sol but it's not a quick errand. I find it highly unlikely that the first CMDR to scan Sol was a hapless unknowing pilot just strolling through. Also, the question must be asked; How many systems were first discovered in 2015? That number but also be astronomical. Now if there were a database or a way to track all systems discovered in 2015 I believe that would be a much more feasible endeavor towards finding the location of Raxxla.

Secondly, it's too obvious.
There has never been so much attention to any one piece of content to come from the ED universe. There have been several attempts to expand a faction, NPC or otherwise, into Sol. Why should this time be any different? In recent weeks, it seems to me that Fdev is almost, if not, directly encouraging one initiative in particular publicly via Q&A streams. The simple fact that one can propose a question on Elite Week and then get an almost direct answer in the subsequent Fdev Q&A is obvious favoritism towards this endeavor. Admittedly this perplexes me to some extent as other such projects have also been encouraged but all have concluded with less than favorable results.

Therefore, I believe Fdev has selectively encouraged initiatives to mislead and nourish this endless endeavor. Either way I believe Fdev's motive is to initiate one of the largest player coordinated in-game events in all of gaming history. While I commend and respect all CMDRs that can look past our differences and work together in collaboration, I feel I for one can not give in to this manipulation. This is a distraction and it has been fueled by propaganda and myths.

While these would be great achievements for some, I can't help but feel like either result is not an achievement for the general player population. If this is a work and Raxxla is not in Sol then we're all left wondering, "what now?". If Raxxla is in Sol, would it's discovery not be bittersweet as we still have so much of the galaxy left unexplored and pristine with no mystery or unknown to solve? My unpopular opinion of ED is that it is not a Space Sim but a player based BGS. Let's face it, it's a game and we're not out here discovering and studying astronomical anomalies. ED is a fantastic flight model but I feel it's the communities we create and how they interact that makes the story of ED. If you were to record Player Factions and their interactions with each other, it could easily be presented as compelling and entertaining content.

Ok so what happens if The Dark Wheel expands into Sol and Raxxla is not discovered, no harm right? We'll regroup, assess and come up with a new plan to keep searching elsewhere. Wrong! Y'all just handed TDW a position in our home system to do as they see fit. They may be a swell NPC faction now but no faction has been able to achieve this feat in over 5 years! As it stands now TDW is arguably the most powerful NPC faction in our universe, once they hold control over Sol I don't think there's an argument for the contrary. The Dark Wheel can not be unturned, once that faction is given a position in Sol it will take several cycles of coordinated BGS and many wars to even attempt such a thing. And all subsequent efforts will just exacerbate the state of our home system to turmoil for several cycles. How badly do you want to find Raxxla? Is it worth risking the peace of our home system?


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I named one person...I publicly and privately apologized to that CMDR and asked if they wanted me to remove this post
They did not ask me to remove or edit this post but I felt I should as my intention was easily misconstrued
My understanding is that TDW is an NPC faction and CMDRs are not NPCs
 
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I believe the entire "Turning the Wheel" initiative is a work created or, at the very least, endorsed by Fdev. I will provide my two main thought lines for this assumption as well as a RP perspective if that entertains you.

FIrstly, the assumption that Raxxla must be in Sol because it was first 'honked' and unnoticed by a CMDR in 2015.
While this may seem like a valid assertion at first glance, I find it easily debatable once you familiarize yourself with the galaxy and ED's inner workings. The odds of the first CMDR flying through our home system, giving it a quick scan and leaving without a second glance or further investigation are astronomical at best. It may not be difficult to get your permit to Sol but it's not a quick errand. I find it highly unlikely that the first CMDR to scan Sol was a hapless unknowing pilot just strolling through. Also, the question must be asked; How many systems were first discovered in 2015? That number but also be astronomical. Now if there were a database or a way to track all systems discovered in 2015 I believe that would be a much more feasible endeavor towards finding the location of Raxxla.

Secondly, it's too obvious.
There has never been so much attention to any one piece of content to come from the ED universe. There have been several personalities in the ED universe that have never gained such popularity as Kai Zen. Several CMDRs have publicly attempted and plead for any response from Fdev, often met with little to no such attention. So why in recent weeks does it seem that Fdev is almost, if not, directly answering and communicating with Kai Zen publicly via Q&A streams? The simple fact that he can propose a question on Elite Week and then get an almost direct answer in the subsequent Fdev Q&A is obvious favoritism towards the creator. Admittedly this perplexes me to some extent as other CMDRs often featured on Elite Week have also proposed questions that have been left unanswered by Fdev.

Therefore, I believe Kai Zen is either an Fdev plant brought into the player community to begin this initiative or I believe he has been privilege to some information that we don't have and is basing his assertions on this. Either way I believe Fdev's motive is to initiate one of the largest player coordinated in-game events in all of gaming history.

While these would be great achievements for some, I can't help but feel like either result is not an achievement for the general player population. If this is a work and Raxxla is not in Sol then we're all left wondering, "what now?". If Raxxla is in Sol, would it's discovery not be bittersweet as we still have so much of the galaxy left unexplored and pristine with no mystery or unknown to solve? My unpopular opinion of ED is that it is not a Space Sim but a player based BGS. Let's face it, it's a game and we're not out here discovering and studying astronomical anomalies. ED is a fantastic flight model but I feel it's the communities we create and how they interact that makes the story of ED. If you were to record Player Factions and their interactions with each other, it could easily be presented as compelling and entertaining content.

Ok so what happens if The Dark Wheel expands into Sol and Raxxla is not discovered, no harm right? We'll regroup, assess and come up with a new plan to keep searching elsewhere. Wrong! Y'all just handed Kai Zen a position in our home system to do as he sees fit. He may be a swell guy now but no one CMDR has had the ambition or ego to attempt such a feat in over 5 years! As it stands now Kai Zen is arguably the most powerful CMDR in our universe, once he holds control over Sol I don't think there's an argument for the contrary. The Dark Wheel can not be unturned, once that faction is given a position in Sol it will take several cycles of coordinated BGS and many wars to even attempt such a thing. And all subsequent efforts will just exacerbate the state of our home system to turmoil for several cycles. How badly do you want to find Raxxla? Is it worth risking the peace of our home system?
They can't expand into Sol.
Hutton tried. Years ago. We broke the BGS. It was and is blocked from player group expansions.

As Alpha Centauri is the nearest star to Sol, and we've expanded countless times, if it was possible, we'd have done it.

So. Not happening! It is all a little Don Quixote and I suspect that The DW is like good old Rocinante. Just not sure who Sancho Panza is.
 
Rules governing NPC and player factions are the same in that regard. We tested expanding an NPC faction into Sol too... It is locked.

Oh and the CM at the time smirked at us too :)
"If it isn't on YT did it ever really happen?" lol
I'm convinced that Fdev is just in love with themselves and we are playing the most sadistic game of "find the egg"
 
It'd be pretty crazy if Raxxla is in Sol

It's somewhere close to developed space.

I've long believed that if nobody found Raxxla then Frontier could just do whatever they wanted and they well could have moved it or changed it in the interim years

It's been built up so much now that there is a certain pressure not to disappoint. But if they have made it an interesting part of the game, they're not going to want to waste it. So if they're starting the process of its discovery, it probably means it's something they want to capitalize on. Perhaps it has been modified/added to again for Odyssey and they feel that now is a good time for players to find it.
 
It'd be pretty crazy if Raxxla is in Sol

It's somewhere close to developed space.

I've long believed that if nobody found Raxxla then Frontier could just do whatever they wanted and they well could have moved it or changed it in the interim years

It's been built up so much now that there is a certain pressure not to disappoint. But if they have made it an interesting part of the game, they're not going to want to waste it. So if they're starting the process of its discovery, it probably means it's something they want to capitalize on. Perhaps it has been modified/added to again for Odyssey and they feel that now is a good time for players to find it.
Now is the ideal time to start the process.
If it's like a scavenger hunt or we're following clues, it would make sense that the first one is in Sol making it in-turn a 2 part process to unlock this clue. That gives veteran players the capability to go and prove its existence while giving new players reason to get their permit and join the search.

I have to agree with you that it is all too possible and likely that it could have been moved. Like when you hide a really good easter egg and you just desperately want someone to find it and marvel at how well it was hidden.

I can't help but think of "Ready Player One" and how Kai Zen could easily be compared to James Halliday.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but I understood it that the DW initiative doesn't believe Raxxla is in Sol itself. I thought that they are trying to expand the DW faction in to Sol in the hope that it will trigger something to help discover it's whereabouts. I think it was in one of the first Elite Week videos I heard them say this.
 
They can't expand into Sol.
Hutton tried. Years ago. We broke the BGS. It was and is blocked from player group expansions.

As Alpha Centauri is the nearest star to Sol, and we've expanded countless times, if it was possible, we'd have done it.

So. Not happening! It is all a little Don Quixote and I suspect that The DW is like good old Rocinante. Just not sure who Sancho Panza is.
The whole premise is that The Dark Wheel faction is a catalyst for discovering Raxxla and that FDev intends for them to be used in this way and that they will be the exception.

It's entirely possible and the best lead we've had in what, forever I'd say. We'll find out soon enough. But if Sol doesn't work, there are other system targets.

Also, I don't think anyone believes Raxxla is in Sol, just that The Dark Wheel expanding there could be a piece of the puzzle.
 
Regardless
The audacity of Kai Zen to assume rule over Sol with his ill-gotten information is a slight against us and the progression we have made as a community.
 
They can't expand into Sol.
Hutton tried. Years ago. We broke the BGS. It was and is blocked from player group expansions.

As Alpha Centauri is the nearest star to Sol, and we've expanded countless times, if it was possible, we'd have done it.

So. Not happening! It is all a little Don Quixote and I suspect that The DW is like good old Rocinante. Just not sure who Sancho Panza is.
Not that what I say means anything to anyone, but I do know that Vingtetun knows the BGS a lot better than most, and he's the one I refer people to when they ask about the BGS.
 
Regardless
The audacity of Kai Zen to assume rule over Sol with his ill-gotten information is a slight against us and the progression we have made as a community.
I don't know if his intentions are honourable but maybe we should be applauding his audacity in trying something like this. Whilst I haven't personally engaged in the initiative, I imagine that this has given many commanders in the game something to work towards that is different to normal everyday activity. Gameplay opportunities arise from this sort of creativity of thought. Whether you agree with Kai or not, surely we must all appreciate that.
 
Not that what I say means anything to anyone, but I do know that Vingtetun knows the BGS a lot better than most, and he's the one I refer people to when they ask about the BGS.
But the Dark Wheel faction could be different, that's the whole point. I respect that people are very knowledgeable about the BGS but no one has tried with TDW before.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not getting my hopes up at all (not after the Gnosis incident) but I definitely think it's worth a try.
 
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