The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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CHOPP3R

CHOPP3R
RhO Cassiopeiae ?

I think Dommarra pointed this out a while back.. EDIT - Think it might have been Han_Zen that mentioned the link to RO,C - It has been mentioned on "other forums" in the past though and has been a subject of interest.

http://www.solstation.com/x-objects/rho-cas.htm

https://astrosociety.org/pubs/mercury/33_01/rho.html

If it is still about to go supernova then it'd definitely be worth a visit and a decent destination of note when it comes to something out of the ordinary to find in the Rift. It is out there but has been thought to be unreachable previously which may exclude it from Drew's clues as he said it was reachable since release.
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According to one theory, they cannot cross the Void unless they have lost sufficient mass, but they can quickly run out of core nuclear fuel and implode to become supernovae.
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I've finally got enough jumponium to try and get there in my exploraconda and will be leaving soon. RL permitting.
 
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Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Martin Afonso said:
Has anyone tried to check system names in the Rift sectors who contain that letters? RO C and EB P?.

I'm away from the computer now, but this could be an address, not a code.

Also, 1-26-13 could lead to AY J.
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I know someone took on the EB-P task. Not sure if they completed it, or focused on the rift/beyond rift area

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CHOPP3R said:
RhO Cassiopea ?

I think Dommarra pointed this out a while back..

http://www.solstation.com/x-objects/rho-cas.htm

https://astrosociety.org/pubs/mercury/33_01/rho.html

If it is still about to go supernova then it'd definitely be worth a visit and a decent destination of note when it comes to something to find in the Rift.
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Its on the POI list as it is the only spotted Non-Procedural Generated star in the area.

BTW - The only stuff I point out is the data you guys spurt out. I think I have discovered Jack.
 

Elementalist

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Hm, why are both 'anna' and 'naan' in your list, but 'nana' is in but its rot13 counterpart 'anan' is not?
Doesn't look like a complete list to me.

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If it's someone's home world, shouldn't it at least have a population of 1?

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Rep from Drew generally means we're on the right track. When I suggested that .,.. ......,. ... could mean 1,26,13 Drew repped my message as well.
Can you give us a link to your 'big Salomé post' that was repped?
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This link should work: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=135529&page=17&p=3655457#post3655457

If it doesn't, you can find it easily in my comment and post history. I hope you can uncover something further!
 

CHOPP3R

CHOPP3R
Dommarraa said:
I know someone took on the EB-P task. Not sure if they completed it, or focused on the rift/beyond rift area

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Its on the POI list as it is the only spotted Non-Procedural Generated star in the area.

BTW - The only stuff I point out is the data you guys spurt out. I think I have discovered Jack.
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Sorry.. Edited my post. I think it was Han_Zen that first made the RO,C link to Rho Cassiopeiae. Could be wrong but it's the earliest reference I could find with a search!
 
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Tesla3E

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I think it might be worth pointing out that if there is a coordinate buried in the text at the end of the message, one of the numbers should be 48.75 since that is the common Y coordinate for Reorte and Riedquat.
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Tesla3E said:
I think it might be worth pointing out that if there is a coordinate buried in the text at the end of the message, one of the numbers should be 48.75 since that is the common Y coordinate for Reorte and Riedquat.
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Absolutely not:
RR Line points at the Rift, not the Secret
If you choose systems with even the slightest height difference, it would point outside the galaxy at that Rift sort of distances because the plain is pretty thin out there
Shes old, and watched the Wrath of Kahn too often (thinking in 2d)
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
CHOPP3R said:
Sorry.. Edited my post. I think it was Han_Zen that first made the RO,C link to Rho Cassiopeiae. Could be wrong but it's the earliest reference I could find with a search!
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Rho Cas is nice. Not perfect on the RR line, but it's deep in the rift.
The problem is that it seems imposible to reach.

It could be a nav point. A second line from GL, A ... RO, C?
 

Dielos

Dielos
Elementalist said:
This link should work: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=135529&page=17&p=3655457#post3655457

If it doesn't, you can find it easily in my comment and post history. I hope you can uncover something further!
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Looking through your old post, the piece of clothing (tiara) she left could be the first of seven. After all, I think to remember that Drew mentioned that we didn't have yet all the clues to solve this. He also specifically said to watch galnet and that more might come in April. We might see more pieces of clothing lying around in the future... She might be leaving these as bread crumbs.

Nice post that one though... I bookmarked it for future reference. I saw it when you originally posted but was traveling and forgot to recheck later! That story ties too strongly Salomé and the Seven Veils...
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Tesla3E said:
I think it might be worth pointing out that if there is a coordinate buried in the text at the end of the message, one of the numbers should be 48.75 since that is the common Y coordinate for Reorte and Riedquat.
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If we asume that the sentence represent coordinates in ED GalMap, then the 'and... Right on' part should be about 48. At least a small value.

I'm doubfull that this is the case.
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
While the possibility that the last line of dialogue is the encoded coordinates would be brilliant, that would lead us to a string of either coincidences of galactic proportions, or conspiracy theories dating back several hundred years.

ROC has been used as a term since the very beginning of the game, and is the perfect salutation for the Old Woman to use with her protege. More unusual for her NOT to use it.
So either :
1) The coordinates of a random location 10 Kylie away can be encoded into a normal everyday phrase. Try and encode your telephone number into "So Long and Thanks for All the Fish". Its would require a Fingerprint of God type coincidence for this to be true.
2) Many years ago, it was noticed that the coordinates of the big secret could be encoded into this as yet unused phrase, and those in the know started using it like a Masonic Handshake. Every time the original Elite 84 said "RIGHT ON COMMANDER" it was actually giving you a hint to the location of the secret. Not sure Drew has the clout to get such a conspiracy inserted into the game.

That leaves you with the punctuation
 
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Legacy_LuckyLuke

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Erimus said:
I've said all along that I think the mention of the R & R line in the book is basically a signpost, simply informing the reader that the "The Rift is that way". We shouldn't get hung up about the specifics of where the actual line crosses the interarm void (at least until Drew decides to give us another clue saying otherwise!) :)
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Agreed :)
 

Belthize

Belthize
Martin Afonso said:
Has anyone tried to check system names in the Rift sectors who contain that letters? RO C and EB P?.

I'm away from the computer now, but this could be an address, not a code.

Also, 1-26-13 could lead to AY J.
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That's actually very close to what I'm doing, started last night but had to go to bed (stupid sleep).
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Erimus said:
Agreed. I've said all along that I think the mention of the R & R line in the book is basically a signpost, simply informing the reader that the "The Rift is that way". We shouldn't get hung up about the specifics of where the actual line crosses the interarm void (at least until Drew decides to give us another clue saying otherwise!) :)

Edit: ^^ this is why I also don't think we can discount the Bovomit sector from having a role to play in the Rift mysteries somewhere in the future. Even though its several thousand lightyears away from the line, its still a significant region of space in the general direction of the Rift, and it holds a mystery within it borders.
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I agree with both. However, if an organised search is to be undertaken, the RR Line is a perfect (only!) base point for a search pattern. While the secret almost certainly isnt exactly on the line, the further away you get, the less likely you are to find it.
 

woodhouse

woodhouse
picommander said:
Could these numbers point to a certain GalNet article, like January (1), day (13) and word in text? With that in mind I've found an article about the recovery of the Antares with (26) pointing to the word 'voyage' (w/o punctuation and headline) and with the headline it's 'passenger'. Doesn't ring a bell to me, but - anyone?
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No: 1,26,13 was code for 'ROT13' (A-Z,13). No clues there for the riddle we're currently working on.

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Dommarraa said:
That leaves you with the punctuation
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Spot on.

But... following the same logic, how much can you expect to be derivable from 2 commas and 3 periods (or 1 ellipsis)?
Also, I recall that there was confusion about earlier hints from Drew because sequences of periods got converted to unicode characters for ellipsis.
Sounds equally unlikely to me.
 
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Dommarraa

Dommarraa
avgroenink said:
But... following the same logic, how much can you expect to be derivable from 2 commas and 3 periods (or 1 ellipsis)?
Also, I recall that there was confusion about earlier hints from Drew because sequences of periods got converted to unicode characters for ellipsis.
Sounds equally unlikely to me.
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I know, but I was throwing them a bone after giving a cool theory a swift kick to the unmentionable ;)
 

Legacy_LuckyLuke

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I think the row of dots and commas and EBP were simply pointing us to the first letters of right on commander...

Maybe it's a happy accident that R O C ... are present in 'Rho Cassiopeia'. It does strike me as too much of a coincidence for us to discount it.

However... if there doesn't appear to be anything significant in the system, maybe it has another role to play in this riddle.

I'm curious about the 'Leesti' morse code that was quoted a few posts back - where did that come from? I hadn't seen it before.

I also wonder why we think only the last part of the video message is significant. The whole message is full of odd little grammatical pauses and punctuation.
 
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