The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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Gypsy12

Gypsy12
ENOUGH!!!!

ENOUGH of the friff fraff. As far as I can understand, we are looking for AWOL AI. Apparently, a couple of them escaped without leave. Now... are there any hints in Drews books or whatnot... why were they banned from Populated space? WHAT RESOURCES DO THEY NEED? Could their power requirements require that they must remain hidden, say by the undiscovered CAS A? (the strongest radio source in our galaxy, apparently to disappear in a few hundred years?) Or do they shun that, looking for the most poxy far away brown dwarf?
Lateral thinking guys.
I know its only a quick and dirty idea involving AI, and not naturally sentient beings... but youre thoughts please. It might help to narrow down some stuff.

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The real question here, is ...how do our alien friends want to live? What's good for them...How can they flourish?
 

Muetdhiver

Muetdhiver
It seems that I'm not alone in my space madness case, so I'll lay the last bits out for those interested.
If you're not (as in don't want to be biased in your search), just pass on.
  • Cambridge clue : in 1947, radio-astronomers from cambridge discover the strongest radio source > 1GHz out of the solar system. The source is a supernova remnant called Cassiopeia A. The progenitor is unknow as of today, but there is an X ray source there. It is not in game, despite being observable IRL. galactic coord are 111.7°-2.1°. I find very strange that such an object is "missing" from the map.
  • Seven Veils : Prior to core collapse, the progenitor star has 7 layers of nuclear fuel, that will be discarded during the explosion. What remains is the core.
 

Zieman

Zieman
Muetdhiver said:
It seems that I'm not alone in my space madness case, so I'll lay the last bits out for those interested.
If you're not (as in don't want to be biased in your search), just pass on.
  • Cambridge clue : in 1947, radio-astronomers from cambridge discover the strongest radio source > 1GHz out of the solar system. The source is a supernova remnant called Cassiopeia A. The progenitor is unknow as of today, but there is an X ray source there. It is not in game, despite being observable IRL. galactic coord are 111.7°-2.1°. I find very strange that such an object is "missing" from the map.
  • Seven Veils : Prior to core collapse, the progenitor star has 7 layers of nuclear fuel, that will be discarded during the explosion. What remains is the core.
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Now just translate the Galactic coordinates & distance (11 kLy) to E: D's coordinate system. :)
 

Muetdhiver

Muetdhiver
Did it, somwhere along in the region :

-9972.67430.32-3977.23
-10274.87443.36-4097.75
-11181.47482.48-4459.32


If I did not fumble anything (the Z coord might be the wrong sign, so feel free to check)

edit : reordered to correct order
 
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Muetdhiver

Muetdhiver
thx, nicly done. Not on the RR line, but this I knew :p

IMO keep going can mean either along the RR line or along the perseus arm edge/gap
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
CMDR Corlas said:
I'm expecting some more like a new sort of strong signal source. Back before the UA was ever connected to Merope, I had been out to the Pleiades a few times, and you could tell something mysterious was going on there, just from a sheer number of signal sources that kept popping up. I never found a UA then, but the SS's still told me something was up.

So I'm expect that, when we find something, we'll first see an uptick (or any) signal sources (beyond wreckage), and from then it'll be time and searching, popping into SS after SS, until the rng gods bless us with a find.

So I'm with Cyalope. I don't think honking and scanning will get us anything, because we need to be flying around a bit to give things a chance to spawn.
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Indeed, I do see signal sources as an extremely likely possibility. Also, I am not suggesting that full system searches should not be done, I just feel that we benefit from having all approaches being tested and it would be good to try and find a way to co-ordinate all trains of thought on the subject, to avoid repeated search patterns on all fronts not just the one.

How best to try and do this still eludes me, but I'm trying to think of ways around it.
 

Legacy_LuckyLuke

Banned
Legacy_LuckyLuke
Muetdhiver said:
It seems that I'm not alone in my space madness case, so I'll lay the last bits out for those interested.
If you're not (as in don't want to be biased in your search), just pass on.
  • Cambridge clue : in 1947, radio-astronomers from cambridge discover the strongest radio source > 1GHz out of the solar system. The source is a supernova remnant called Cassiopeia A. The progenitor is unknow as of today, but there is an X ray source there. It is not in game, despite being observable IRL. galactic coord are 111.7°-2.1°. I find very strange that such an object is "missing" from the map.
  • Seven Veils : Prior to core collapse, the progenitor star has 7 layers of nuclear fuel, that will be discarded during the explosion. What remains is the core.
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I think Muetdhiver may have cracked it - if I can also refer you guys to my earlier post - #687 - I had the same hunch re: Cass A, but the final piece of the puzzle re: Cambridge hadn't fallen into place yet. In fact I totally missed the Cambridge reference when reading the wikipedia page on Cass A!

I previously asked Jalan Bax to convert the approximate co-ordinates for Cass A (from simbad) to a region in ED and he came up with the following:


Jalan Bax said:
The coords (for Cassiopeia A) are: -10235 -439.24 -4004.17, nearest system HYPHEERB UU-G B42-0
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I suggest we focus our efforts on this region of space. According to the wiki page, the remnants of Cass A could be a black hole or a neutron star.
 
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Muetdhiver

Muetdhiver
Are you sure its -400 and not +400 ? I have some doubts about the sign of it.

Anyhow, I am close to the region now. Should be able to explore it tomorrow evening.

edit : oh dear, you're right, it's -400 (took the minus as a dash, should have looked at simbad).

This, and "whole galaxy hanging out there"
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Muetdhiver said:
Did it, somwhere along in the region :

-9972.67430.32-3977.23
-10274.87443.36-4097.75
-11181.47482.48-4459.32


If I did not fumble anything (the Z coord might be the wrong sign, so feel free to check)

edit : reordered to correct order
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-10370, -385.7, -4138

If Galactic Longitude and Radius Of Circle are 1/100...

Edit: sources.
http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=Cas+A

http://www.random-science-tools.com/maths/coordinate-converter.htm
 
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Dielos

Dielos
There's a neutron star nearby, HYPHEERB WB-K D9-4... Near the coords given by Jalan Bax.

Two more higher up aprox -280.
 
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ArmoredMeat

ArmoredMeat
Her title was cited by Arabic-language sources as al-Kāhina (the priestess soothsayer). This was the nickname used by her Muslim opponents because of her reputed ability to foresee the future.

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With this bit of info, could there be a clue to something with...
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'Fortune Teller Nebula'

Game map search ref. : BYA AIL AA-A H65
POI Type: Visual
Like the tent of a fortune teller, this nebula is dark but colourful. It is brighter on the inside, with shades of blue, red and orange decorating the night sky of its many worlds.

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I searched this post but could not find anyone mentioning this... it appears to be out of the area everyone is looking in but may lead to a clue. Just got to and headed back from Sag A today or would check it out myself. Sorry for my post formatting, I'm on the phone.
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Alkibiades

Alkibiades
today i was searching for neutron stars, black holes and other rarities in this quadrant:





i found 1 neutron star and 1 wolf rayet, they are basically neighbours. but its really odd to me that they seem to be the only ones. are there really no others?!

both need 100% fsd boost which i dont have so i can only look at them from a distance.
 

lorrad

lorrad
KG_Jedi said:
Wait. If in Drew's book it's said that there are "dark systems, not mapped", it means they aren't shown on galaxy map.

So... Should we fly along R-R line, while looking at SKYBOX and checking for anything, that can be seen on skybox, but not on galaxy map?

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Also, i finished surveying yesterday Leut's brown dwarf cluster. Mainly by scanning main star, checking system map and going to next system.

Nothing unusual found, some systems had landable/unladnable planets, some had gas giants, but nothing unusual.
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Take a black felt marker and and redact that down to 'watch your six', always a good idea. The book was written before "dark systems" had been explicitly excluded from the game. Brooks has stated they were planned but they are not in the game.

Take joy and celebrate as this is one avenue that can be eliminated, it is roadkill, it squawks no more, it is an ex-clue.
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
What if the same applies to the reorte-riedquat line too...

Just saying: I'd be very keen to know if those systems were placed when Drew wrote his book; and whether he knew where they were either. Judging by the content, quite a lot of things he imagined are different from the game we're playing now.

So if they weren't placed, or he wasn't aware of where they were, then there's absolutely no guarantee this is the right place to be looking. Might be worth trying to get some clarity on this point.

And what if it's beyond bovomit?
 
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