The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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I believe she didn't want to be late due to wanting to be in Cambridge for the vernal equinox. Precisely why, I haven't managed to fathom yet. I think all the brash behaviour at Mars High was to take away attention from the real purpose of the trip. I could be wrong though of course :)

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Yep they only appear at founders world now apparently.

A lot has been made of Cambridge & the Vernal Equinox, but she landed at Cambridge Spaceport & then went to London. Not seen anyone expand the analysis to cover the London Greenwich Observatory.

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Which makes them Rank related, Which as Drew said Rank was not a part of getting the objective, so we can exclude them.


Does one have to get to an Elite rank to get access to Founders World (if one didn't back the kickstarter or whatever)?
 
Greetings Commanders.
Long time lurker, first time poster here, and i would really like to express how much i enjoy reading through your posts and brainstorming alongside you, silently till now.

Having spent 2+ weeks navigating the rift trying to find anything out of place, or following any lead you guys came up with, i decided to head back home. We surely cannot expect to find something that we don't know what it is, in a region that is too broadly difined and with clues that we cannot discern from non-clues.
I, too, believe that we have missed something, and the answer is to be found in the core systems.

Ok, tinfoil time:

I guess you are all familiar with Drew's "hint", "CMDRs may wish to consider the, ahem, core of the problem."
We all also know the last sentence before the holofac faded, "Good luck, and ... right on, Commander."
Now, what if we could take the the phrase "... right on, Commanders" and change it to "3(the three dots) r o, C" -> "3roC" inverted is "Cor3", which after all this time in the rift is making me consider the, ahem, core(COR3) of the problem :S.

Now that leaves us with what could COR3 mean; How about "Children of Raxxla 3"? Meaning maybe the third planet in the Children of Raxxla home system HR 6421?

Ok, you can remove the foils now.Thank you for reading my first post and please excuse any mistakes.
 
About Kahina being in a hurry, she's so between till the 9th of march, but not anymore on the 15th.
It turns out that Uranus, one of the outer gas giant was discovered the 13th.
 
I know alot worked on this, and forgive me if this idea already been submitted. We know Kahina / Salome is partly inspired by the story of Ishtar and Greek mythology (the seven veils, Prism planets etc ...).
We found similarities between Salome and Ishtar journey (the Seven Veils, left with the tiara). From there, could we extrapolate the future events with the story of Ishtar? or why not try to guess what Kahina / Salomé is seeking.
This is a simplistic reasoning, but the idea that Kahina means soothsayer made me think that. It would be quite fun to realize that the solution was under our noses all along.
 
I explored the Ishtar idea some time ago. The interesting thing about it is that Ishtar has to discard 7 items of clothing.

The two first are the tiara and a jewel/necklace, which are abandonned by Kahina in her ship. The five next are :

  • bracelets
  • shoes
  • face veil
  • outer robe
  • dress

I have been trying to find a way to link those to locations / waypoints, but no luck.
 
I explored the Ishtar idea some time ago. The interesting thing about it is that Ishtar has to discard 7 items of clothing.

The two first are the tiara and a jewel/necklace, which are abandonned by Kahina in her ship. The five next are :

  • bracelets
  • shoes
  • face veil
  • outer robe
  • dress

I have been trying to find a way to link those to locations / waypoints, but no luck.

All of them may have contained some sort of metal, clasps, etc. Perhaps those stars that often have metallic planets are the clue. E.g Class G, K, and F.

The connection is very tenuous though.

The important thing which keeps cropping up is the number 7. I have mentioned this before, but nobody seems to take any notice.
 
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I explored the Ishtar idea some time ago. The interesting thing about it is that Ishtar has to discard 7 items of clothing.

The two first are the tiara and a jewel/necklace, which are abandonned by Kahina in her ship. The five next are :

  • bracelets
  • shoes
  • face veil
  • outer robe
  • dress

I have been trying to find a way to link those to locations / waypoints, but no luck.

That's a fairly 20th century interpretation. Things like outer robes and dresses didn't really exist on any depictions of Ishtar ( Inanna for the Sumerians)

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From page 456 of this book https://books.google.com/books?id=EikbAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=descent&f=false 1915 translation (still considered the best I believe) the items were:
  1. Crown
  2. Ear rings
  3. Necklace
  4. Breast adornment (probably feathers)
  5. Girdle with birth stones (ease birth type stones not modern astrology birth stones)
  6. bracelets for hands and feet
  7. loin cloth

So if the items she removed are relevant then you have the added complication of guessing which interpretation do you use, the older or newer style. Personally I doubt there's an Ishtar connection unless it's as simple as 'descent into the underworld' which would imply that we're looking for something below the plane. That in turn could be a general thing or a very literal thing like -700 on the vertical axis.

One thing that I haven't been chasing but has been     ling at me is Andromeda. If aliens were to travel from andromeda to our galaxy where would they land ? The nearest point is vaguely near there though further west (if the core is north) than what we think of as the rift but it's definitely well below the plane.
 
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All of them may have contained some sort of metal, clasps, etc. Perhaps those stars that often have metallic planets are the clue. E.g Class G, K, and F.

The connection is very tenuous though.

The important thing which keeps cropping up is the number 7. I have mentioned this before, but nobody seems to take any notice.

I'm sure it's noticed but what to do with it?

7 x 7 is 49, that's how many days until Drew submits to interrogation in the AMA, 49 days a few days ago that is.

Regard the red and blue and green balls appearing in witchspace. Chased that one about 5 times, refly the routes back and forth several times and they don't reappear so are no doubt random occasional graphics.

How bout scanning systems between the R-R line and the Reorte - Diso line?

Unless we missed something important in the Salomi messages,,,its summer and random scanning between real life chores, they feel about the same, fix the garden wall as relief from detailed system scanning, scanning as relief from gardening,,,,,

REMEMBER
 
I'm not sure how many folks are watching ... or if it is even slightly entertaining but here is my latest video. I've finally reached the area that I believe to be the Formidine Rift:

[video=youtube_share;heZR8l-LgBw]https://youtu.be/heZR8l-LgBw[/video]
 
I explored the Ishtar idea some time ago. The interesting thing about it is that Ishtar has to discard 7 items of clothing.

The two first are the tiara and a jewel/necklace, which are abandonned by Kahina in her ship. The five next are :

  • bracelets
  • shoes
  • face veil
  • outer robe
  • dress

I have been trying to find a way to link those to locations / waypoints, but no luck.

Have you considered that the upgrades to the ship could be considered as having been 'discarded'?
Eg.

Drives = shoes
Shield = outer robe
Disco scanner = face veil
Fuel scoop = Bracelets (yeah, this is really tenuous)
Ship itself = dress


I need to go research Ishtar now...
 
Have you considered that the upgrades to the ship could be considered as having been 'discarded'?
Eg.

Drives = shoes
Shield = outer robe
Disco scanner = face veil
Fuel scoop = Bracelets (yeah, this is really tenuous)
Ship itself = dress


I need to go research Ishtar now...

Bracelet: Brace - sometimes used to reinforce the wrist. e.g. a long leather bracelet covering the forearm. Perhaps bracelet is re-enforced armour?

The rest makes sense.
 
That doesn't exist in the game. Except for the fact that Sag A is actually there the majority of the stars in the core seem to be procedurally generated in a way that does not match the stars that are actually there.

Ah. Fair enough.

Maybe he meant the Sap 8 Core Containers then.
The old missions (since they haven't been seen for a while?) said that "we believe are being used to store data". Maybe the data, once acquired, will lead there.
 
Get Things Moving!

DancingLemmur and myself think the Rift itself needs some work. The place, as we know it as of now, is huge, not well defined, and 'broadly correct' at best. So I took a closer look at the map and found out that what we could call a proper rift, i.e. an abrupt drop in star density, in much thinner than what we agree upon at the moment. And as it's unconceivable that Frontier would expect us to survey 2,000,000 systems, we are pretty much convinced that we all need to work on narrowing the area down before starting any survey.

To the point already!

Discarding any 'dark system' thing, since 1) Drew stated that it was supposed to be a thing, but that it didn't make to the game (yet?) ; 2) even it they were unscoopable/non sequence systems (= shallow or no light), there simply barely are any before and in the Rift, whereas there are hugely large layers of unscoops right after the Rift. So I went to seek the drop, and found 2 'entry systems', being -broadly speaking- the furthest systems one can easily reach, before navigating gets instantly tricky ; and 1 'exit system', being the first system you can reach, from which plotting gets easy again. By 'easy' I mean that visually, on the map, jumps are doable by a 28-30ly jump range ship (or I need to change my glasses). This also takes into account the RR line, since 1K northern of this, there's the Bridge, and to me, it's not a Rift anymore ; at least, the alleged meaning (Formid, dread, etc.) doesn't work at all.

I used the M class stars filter on the screenies, since they are the most common type there, it's easier to visualize.

ENTRY SYSTEM 1 : QIEDIA OV-L B0 ___ -9,100 : -65 : -6,180

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ENTRY SYSTEM 2 : PHROEA HYPA PJ-Y C17-0 ___ -7,685 : -25 : -6,700

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EXIT SYSTEM : SYREADIAE AK-H B30-0 ___ -9,340 : -65 : -6,820

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Then I used this tool (http://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/geometry-solids/distance-two-points.php) to calculate the ∆ distance between Entry 1 and Exit, the two closest (see map below). Found out that ∆ = 683.52ly. Supposedly, that's the actual Rift's thinniest width. If a pilot were to cross it, that would be the shortest way.

But we need to check that there actually is a route there. And that it's doable by a 30ly-max jump range ship. That's why i propose that some benevolent CMDRs gather on one of these systems by, let's say Saturday 23rd, add their intel on the 'Pathfinders' tab of the spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...tN-Bt3n4px8TmOoOW2YaCe2fM/edit#gid=1807654778), and that we start finding that route. Now considering the short gap (680ly), and the star density there, this really, really narrows the star count down. Add to this that we can only write down system within 30lly of reach, and I believe that with some coordination and a few people, this can be quickly done.
I recommend that 1) we wing up to facilitate coordination and comms IG (don't spam FleetComm!) ; 2) those who haven't already, join FleetComm, #formidine-rift channel ; 3) we trilaterate every single system that falls into the abovementionned constraints.


Maybe it's nothing in regards to the Mystery itself, but at least it'll give a landmark, somewhere to start, and -maybe- a true bridge across the Rift for future explorers. Might update this post with things I forgot :D


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(The pic looks but the maps are aligned)


The Rift ends at 8K :
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This could be a pre-expedition OP, or whatever. If Dommarraa thinks it's worth it, let's add the expedition and those systems on EDSM!

Winks at Drew : colder? warmer?...



Thoughts : 'Check your six'... Careful where you jump from, you might need to jump back to find another route. Also, 'checking our six', meaning selecting Reorte/Riedquat? This can be a means to check that we are on the RR line, if both systems look aligned from the canopy. But someone has thought of that already, I'm sure!
 
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Maybe the old lady's comments are being over complicated. Go to the edge using the RR line, that brings you to EAFORDS region yes? No need to give a coded message for the region if that's all there is. What you need is the next bit.....right on, commander. RO-C, there is only one EAFORDS system containing RO-C, just put in EAFORDS RO-C, I've just arrived there, nothing really interesting to see. But maybe that's just a start point, look back at your 6 and line up visually with the RR line and pan backwards, the near edge of the next arm is the destination? Or to the middle, core, of the rift on the line?

Interestingly the RR line towards EAFORDS RO-C takes you right through 10 Cassiopeia, continue and you hit HD 1238 or 34 or something, a big blue with a large black hole. I'm talking just visually doing the line in gal map....what was the old woman's navigation equipment like in that cobra? Combo of scanner and visual cues?

I'll test the theory to the middle tomorrow, for now I'm diving down 850ly from RO-C, some interesting systems down there.
 
The important thing which keeps cropping up is the number 7. I have mentioned this before, but nobody seems to take any notice.

OK, my first post in the thread. I've wondering about that.

I'm nowhere near the rift, but in the bubble and it looks like there is a proposed expedition in the Qohen Leth's post a few before this one.

Working with 7 as a mythological/biblical clue and the old 7 veils (whatever they may be), but perhaps the site being searched for becomes clear when you check your six behind looking you back to Reorte - Riedquat?

Even if you find a proposed site, might some further clue, confirmation or insight be gained by studying the previous 6 key points along the Reorte - Riedquat line?

For what it is worth, can anyone tell me what the 2nd to 7th systems are (including those within the bubble itself) along the line immediately after Riedquat ?

(Apologies, likely all this has been looked at but I hope someone will humour me.)
 
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Did anyone catch this Galnet article today?

I can't decide if this is confirmation that Rho Cassiopeiae is in the Formidine Rift, or just that Frontier knows that we think we've found the rift (explorers call the Formidine Rift).
 
Did anyone catch this Galnet article today?

I can't decide if this is confirmation that Rho Cassiopeiae is in the Formidine Rift, or just that Frontier knows that we think we've found the rift (explorers call the Formidine Rift).
Its player submitted content. It's great to highlight CMDRs turkwinif achievement. Don't think there is more to it Rift wise.
 
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