The Formidine Rift - Part 2

[CMDR DancingLemur]

Tin foil hat time again : Senator Kahina Tijani Loren - Star K, T, L, or K6, T6, L5, or (excluding the first letter) K5, T5, L4. So maybe we are looking for a ternary star system.

 

[akaliel]

EXCITEMENT ON THE CANONN THREAD!

Go have a look!

What's going on? Someone find something new? I took a look but didn't see anything that exciting going on.

 

[woodhouse]

Greetings, Commanders,

I just wanted to bring your attention to a recent route that has been plotted through the Formidine Rift (see attachment). I hope this might be of use to some who want to explore the area.

Cheers, CMDR Heisenberg6626

Any thoughts about which journal you are going to submit this to?

 

[Belthize]

What's going on? Someone find something new? I took a look but didn't see anything that exciting going on.

Overlaying the position of barnacle spikes onto a map of the galaxy. It's interesting, particularly the 2nd configuration. Whether it's significant remains to be seen, it's a bit more profound than typical numerology (or mapping random arena seating charts onto things ). In terms of full tinfoil hattery if you look at the current config notice which spike is near the rift (hint it's 7).

 

[lorrad]

I think it has never been precisely stated where the Rift ends and the Cygnus Arm starts. At the end of the passage, however, one can again use normal long-distance plotting to proceed. The passage is really only across terrain where the star density is so low that course plotting is unreliable.

Cheers, CMDR Heisenberg6626

Don't get me wrong I'm delighted to know it's possible to go south east along the New Outer Arm and cross back without having to back track to the bridge area and Rho Cass to get back. Looking at the map zoomed right out its really hard to tell as it all blends together around there and nice to know the rift area east of Rho Cass doesn't extend forever and may be about the same cocktail sausage shape as the section between the near and far bridge.

So is the Formidine Rift one area with the bridge crossing it or two rifts with the bridge separating them?
If so which is the Formidine and what do we call the other?
Heisenberg Gap?

 

[lorrad]

Overlaying the position of barnacle spikes onto a map of the galaxy. It's interesting, particularly the 2nd configuration. Whether it's significant remains to be seen, it's a bit more profound than typical numerology (or mapping random arena seating charts onto things ). In terms of full tinfoil hattery if you look at the current config notice which spike is near the rift (hint it's 7).

I'm beginning to think the recurrence of 7's with this mystery is in fact,,,,drumroll,,,
the 7 stages of grief: shock, denial, anger, bargaining, guilt, depression and acceptance.

 

[clavain]

Hi folks, a little bit more detailed response on this question:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=239212&page=124&p=3761804&viewfull=1#post3761804

the tl;dr response is that Drew and John Harper have confirmed that the original version of And Here the Wheel, with the Formidine Rift reference (in the sense that it was mentioned as one of several places the Admiral had seen, and was not associated with the other places mentioned in that paragraph) is to be considered canon. Some edits occurred after that during which it was removed for reasons unknown from the eBook and the paperback version (yet another mystery). For the sake of sanity, pretend it appears in all of them.

Sorry for taking so long to get back with more on this, I've been ill and forgot they had replied to me with a bit more detail.

 

[Bobo]

SYREADIAE AA-A H0 Curious lil system dont yer think

 

[Jaiotu]

EXCITEMENT ON THE CANONN THREAD!

Go have a look!

I looked. I don't see what is so exciting ... but having not been following that thread almost all of it is way over my head and meaningless.

Meanwhile ... I have successfully crossed that gap between the Persius Arm and the New Outer using CMDR Heisenberg6626's route. Fairly easy to follow and I was able to leapfrog many of the waypoints. I did have some trouble navigating between waypoints 6 and 7. I couldn't plot a direct route between those two points so I ended up going "down" to get to a denser cluster of stars where I was then able to plot a route to Waypoint 7.

 

[Jaiotu]

Hi folks, a little bit more detailed response on this question:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=239212&page=124&p=3761804&viewfull=1#post3761804

the tl;dr response is that Drew and John Harper have confirmed that the original version of And Here the Wheel, with the Formidine Rift reference (in the sense that it was mentioned as one of several places the Admiral had seen, and was not associated with the other places mentioned in that paragraph) is to be considered canon. Some edits occurred after that during which it was removed for reasons unknown from the eBook and the paperback version (yet another mystery). For the sake of sanity, pretend it appears in all of them.

Sorry for taking so long to get back with more on this, I've been ill and forgot they had replied to me with a bit more detail.

So ... which versions does the text appear in? The audiobook? I'm really confused.

 

[yeahreally]

Some edits occurred after that during which it was removed for reasons unknown from the eBook and the paperback version (yet another mystery). For the sake of sanity, pretend it appears in all of them.

Thanks for following up on this. Now I'm curious what other changes occurred between the original versions and the eBook/paperback versions. I got the ebook version because it's easier to search through for specific keywords.

Something else I noticed about my ebook version of Reclamation is that it has a set page layout that doesn't change if you try to increase the text size. In every other ebook I have the page layout changes based on the font size. It makes me wonder if there's something in the book we're supposed to find that's dependent on the page layout.

 

[clavain]

Something else I noticed about my ebook version of Reclamation is that it has a set page layout that doesn't change if you try to increase the text size. In every other ebook I have the page layout changes based on the font size. It makes me wonder if there's something in the book we're supposed to find that's dependent on the page layout.

I would think not, that would likely be a bit too crazy. But you never know.

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

Thanks for following up on this. Now I'm curious what other changes occurred between the original versions and the eBook/paperback versions. I got the ebook version because it's easier to search through for specific keywords.

Something else I noticed about my ebook version of Reclamation is that it has a set page layout that doesn't change if you try to increase the text size. In every other ebook I have the page layout changes based on the font size. It makes me wonder if there's something in the book we're supposed to find that's dependent on the page layout.

It was stated the books are not needed to solve the mystery, I guess you shouldn't spend too much time with this ☺

 

[clavain]

So ... which versions does the text appear in? The audiobook? I'm really confused.

Pretend it is in all of them. It is supposed to be.

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It was stated the books are not needed to solve the mystery, I guess you shouldn't spend too much time with this ☺

Not needed to solve but they could (and do) provide additional hints/context. You can solve it in-game without the books.

 

[Jaiotu]

Pretend it is in all of them. It is supposed to be.

That's fine and all ... but it doesn't answer my question. I could pretend anything I'd like. I'm obsessive so I need to track this down. Do I need to search ebay for a hardback copy?

 

[Qohen Leth]

From what I read sometimes, I think some guys need to get some air

 

[clavain]

That's fine and all ... but it doesn't answer my question. I could pretend anything I'd like. I'm obsessive so I need to track this down. Do I need to search ebay for a hardback copy?

It appears in a pre-continuity edit version which may have been quoted from during the Kickstarter which Crassus references here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=239212&page=124&p=3761599&viewfull=1#post3761599

It is apparently not in the audiobook either (although it is supposed to be).

Happy? You're welcome.

 

[Jaiotu]

It appears in a pre-continuity edit version which may have been quoted from during the Kickstarter which Crassus references here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=239212&page=124&p=3761599&viewfull=1#post3761599

It is apparently not in the audiobook either (although it is supposed to be).

Happy? You're welcome.

Thanks! I was about to spend money unnecessarily then. So it doesn't appear in any finished version of the text. Gotcha. The question then becomes: who edited it out? All of these books had to go through Michael Brooks, did they not? Until we know exactly who edited it out and why they did it I think it should definitely remain "apocryphal" and certainly not be considered as canon. Though the fact that it was the author's intention makes it certainly noteworthy.

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From what I read sometimes, I think some guys need to get some air

Yes. Yes indeed

 

[clavain]

Thanks! I was about to spend money unnecessarily then. So it doesn't appear in any finished version of the text. Gotcha. The question then becomes: who edited it out? All of these books had to go through Michael Brooks, did they not? Until we know exactly who edited it out and why they did it I think it should definitely remain "apocryphal" and certainly not be considered as canon. Though the fact that it was the author's intention makes it certainly noteworthy.

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Yes. Yes indeed

This has been asked and answered offline by the author (and publisher) at some length - there is no conspiracy here. It was edited out accidentally during a continuity edit, and no one was apparently aware of this until it came up here on these forums. It should not have been edited out, according to John Harper and Drew and publisher, so end of story. Assume Crassus' quote is the canon version, and the Admiral is referring to the Rift as one of several places he has seen during his travels. It's not rocket science.

And who are you to decide what should and should not be canon, when the authors have said that it is canon?

 

[Jaiotu]

This has been asked and answered offline by the author (and publisher) at some length - there is no conspiracy here. It was edited out accidentally during a continuity edit, and no one was apparently aware of this until it came up here on these forums. It should not have been edited out, according to John Harper and Drew, so end of story. Assume Crassus' quote is the canon version, and the Admiral is referring to the Rift as one of several places he has seen during his travels. It's not rocket science.

And who are you to decide what should and should not be canon, when the authors have said that it is canon?

Not trying to get into an argument. I am nobody when it comes to saying what is or what isn't canon. But neither are Drew Wagar or John Harper. If it isn't actually in print then, regardless of the intention, it needs to come straight from Michael Brooks as to whether or not it can be considered canon. The authors were required to work with Mr. Brooks closely to make sure that their books fit into the Elite: Dangerous lore. You are welcome to pretend that the text says what the authors say the original intention was. That is fine. I'm not arguing that you shouldn't. For me though it is quite simple: If it isn't in the text and it doesn't come directly from Michael Brooks then, while I find it interesting, I can't consider it to be canonical.