The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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Macros Black

Macros Black
Jack Hound said:
It's this one

From a vantage point more than 65,000 light years from Sol, a transmission has been received regarding the Distant Worlds Expedition. Sent by a Commander Salomé, the message congratulates Dr Kaii and Commander Erimus on their colossal achievement, and pays homage to the hundreds of other explorers who took part."The voyage has yielded a wealth of exploration data, and may well contain remarkable new discoveries about the galaxy in which we live. It has been a pleasure and privilege to be involved, and I wish all the explorers a safe voyage home."Early analysis of the recovered data indicates that a number of new routes have been scouted, including pathways to Beagle Point, the Core, the Formidine Rift, the Norma Expanse and many other parts of the galaxy. These routes combine in a complex cobweb, paths through the void. Sceptics were quick to put these discoveries in context, however:"Scouting a route is all very well, and we applaud the achievements of these adventurers," said Karl Devene, head of Astrocartography at Mars High. "But these explorers should not be under the impression that these areas can be considered even partially charted. There is much that remains to be done."
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Formidine Rift is the Easter Egg. The DWE did not include the Formidine Rift in the route, so unless someone found a shortcut from the Formidine Rift to Beagle Point (would be cool though), my 2c is on the Formidine Rift. However, I fail to see any Easter Egg'ness about including Formidine Rift in the list of pathways?

Although a shortcut from Beagle Point to the Formidine Rift could explain Salomé's travel speed...not hard jump-work, just cheating using shortcuts (wormholes) ;)

Edit: Unless the Formidine Rift location is on the DWE route? (brain just exploded, and warm wet stuff is now oozing out of my ear)
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Rot13 of 'EBPCFRNE' (capital letters in the 'Early analysis' sentence) is 'ROCPSEAR'. ROC PS EAR?
 
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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Saool said:
Hyperspace gates? Homeworld/Mass effect style?

Didn't the Thargoids have one at Polaris? Salome moving around quickly?
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Yeah, but not Mass Effect. That's a reference to the original Elite's galaxy map. The white lines on a black screen resembled a web.
 

Belthize

Belthize
MacrosTheBlack said:
Formidine Rift is the Easter Egg. The DWE did not include the Formidine Rift in the route, so unless someone found a shortcut from the Formidine Rift to Beagle Point (would be cool though), my 2c is on the Formidine Rift. However, I fail to see any Easter Egg'ness about including Formidine Rift in the list of pathways?

Although a shortcut from Beagle Point to the Formidine Rift could explain Salomé's travel speed...not hard jump-work, just cheating using shortcuts (wormholes) ;)

Edit: Unless the Formidine Rift location is on the DWE route? (brain just exploded, and warm wet stuff is now oozing out of my ear)
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Except we went over that a fair amount when the Galnet article was published so unless Drew is less observant than we think it doesn't fit with his 'and nobody noticed' hint.
 

Heisenberg6626

Heisenberg6626
Ach, how could I not see zis? "Karl Devene" is clearly a referenz to a well-known ship, popular for bounty hunting, ze

"Ver-de-Lanke",

manufactured by ze Austrian ship builder Gonzo Pettersen! Itz obveeus!
 
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Heisenberg6626

Heisenberg6626
Concerning the mentioning of the Formidine Rift in the GalNet article, Drew Wagar has in the meantime commented on the unfortunate wording of it:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=239212&page=103&p=3752007#post3752007

So I don't think the Rift is the Easter Egg.




MacrosTheBlack said:
Formidine Rift is the Easter Egg. The DWE did not include the Formidine Rift in the route, so unless someone found a shortcut from the Formidine Rift to Beagle Point (would be cool though), my 2c is on the Formidine Rift. However, I fail to see any Easter Egg'ness about including Formidine Rift in the list of pathways?

Although a shortcut from Beagle Point to the Formidine Rift could explain Salomé's travel speed...not hard jump-work, just cheating using shortcuts (wormholes) ;)

Edit: Unless the Formidine Rift location is on the DWE route? (brain just exploded, and warm wet stuff is now oozing out of my ear)
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The article starts with "From a vantage point more than 65000 ly from Sol...". This reminds me of a quote by Carl Sagan from "Pale Blue Dot: A vision of the Human future in Space":

From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
 
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Saool

Saool
Jaiotu said:
Yeah, but not Mass Effect. That's a reference to the original Elite's galaxy map. The white lines on a black screen resembled a web.
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Oolite maybe (I'm not sure I never played it). But not orginal Elite. You could jump anywhere you had the jump range for, just like now, but in 2D. There were no 'space lanes' (I did play original Elite).
 

slartybartfast

slartybartfast
drew said:
Hi Folks, I have a moment to comment so will jump in here.

I did pen that Galnet article, but on rereading I can see how the confusion has arisen, please accept my apologies for that.

Here's what you were supposed to infer. :)

Salomé has indeed been part of the DW expedition and has followed them to Beagle point in order to look for 'something'.

The exploration data from the DW expedition has charted a route to Beagle point and thus we now in combination with other exploration activities undertaken in the last two years by players have many interesting routes out of the core worlds charted in various directions. These include the Rift, The Norma Expanse, the Core and many other areas.

The astrocartographer's comments were there to indicate that insufficient exploration has yet been undertaken in all these areas.

Thus, A few pointers for clarity:

Erimus' position for the Formidine Rift is broadly correct as per the map on this thread, so you are in the right area.
The DW expedition has not been associated with the Rift itself as part of their journey to Beagle point. (They are in tangential directions as per the map)
More will follow. :)

I will review future submissions in more detail to try to ensure less ambiguity - it's pretty tough to be specific without revealing too much, but I will do my utmost best to ensure you don't head down an unintentional line of enquiry. I am monitoring progress as closely as I can.

All the best,

Drew.
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"I will review future submissions in more detail to try to ensure less ambiguity" yes please Drew, perhaps you could nudge MB into being a lil less ambiguous, because we always have a mass of activity only for it t fizzle out with no results.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
frostypaw said:
The thargoids were wiped out with a human created plague right?

I think we're pretty sure of that.

SO here's my recent tinfoiling - is it related to Cerberus in any way? Did they keep engineering that disease trying to make a selective human killer? Are we uncovering a plot rather than a new enemy?
Or was there another element to the Thargoid war - a super vicious AI that we had to chase away and banish into darkness?

Ah I wanna know
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Thargoid bases were bombed with Mycoid by INRA in 3151. This ended the war, but it didn't wipe out the Thargoids. They came back for a smal visit a hundred years later.

A selective human killer virus was once developed by the Imperial Navy. This virus caused the Sohalian fever. A disease quite similar to the Cerberus plague.

What happened to the AIs is a huge question. Androids used to be everywhere. There were billions of them. There are some very small indications that they may have been accidentally killed by a mutated or modified version of Mycoid.
 
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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Saool said:
Oolite maybe (I'm not sure I never played it). But not orginal Elite. You could jump anywhere you had the jump range for, just like now, but in 2D. There were no 'space lanes' (I did play original Elite).
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Good point! It's been so long since I played. I've just gotten so use to seeing maps showing all the possible jump routes that my memory superimposed that on the original game!

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Belthize

Belthize
If it's OOLite and cobweb then I'm not too surprised nobody noticed, there are many places where routes in EDSM or in the regular map look sufficiently cobwebby that referring to them as such wouldn't raise an eyebrow.

Edit: It's a shout out to the Astronomy Club at Mars High school in Mars Pennsylvania. No clue why but there you go.
 
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frostypaw

frostypaw
For those using EDSM the Heisenberg Crossing is now traced out - visible as a near north-south line in the rift area - I've stopped slightly early at WP21 as I've had easy travel in all directions for a while now. Some alternative routes popped up but the key points are the longest unavoidable jump was 32.71Ly to Waypoint 15 and no apparent route around that.

Inbetween 17 and 20 there are some big up/down jumps that are hard to judge - an alternative route via hypoae aescs cb-w c15-0, hypoae aescs ir-n d6-6, hypoae aescs lx-l d7-3 auto-plotted looking backwards for those who've had enough of big jumps by then - I may be a star out on that route but at 17 it was already attempting to plot in that direction so should be easy to find

Now to plot the back edge of the rift towards the line - at least we can narrow the search area down

ps. oh and the scary binary is between 8 and 9, and only 2 unscoopables all trip.
 
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