When you see that many nebulae are filled with guardian site , you can guess that nebulae could be the "door" for goid or for another form of travel.
The Important Lore Point From The Halloween 3306 Event That Everyone Missed!
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When you see that many nebulae are filled with guardian site , you can guess that nebulae could be the "door" for goid or for another form of travel.
Bruce & Stephen drew attention to the damage to the Adamastor, S 'speculating' it looked like it had been attacked....?
Been pointed out elsewhere it may be the first human contact for the Thargs as well, and we may have taken something of theirs, but they were always seemingly aggro anyway...
Bruce 'speculated' about what or who would presumably be inside the crashed Sidewinder if no rescue ship had been afterwards...?
In initial LS Bruce asked who had scanned all the Megaship sub-targets and what info had we got or learned or gleaned....did he mean apart from the log?
Vague memories of Arthur saying something like 'not hidden in the logs but not obvious'....may have been the 8 code though?
Dunno if any of it is relevant, Sidewinder maybe hadnt been found at that point?
I like this perspective and think it has merit.
I was under the impression that it was because nebula are richer in certain resources?
The Foundation Series is a good read
In more ways than one. LYR is big on big data predicting anything (very psychohistory), and I firmly think he is part of the Club.
I thought that the Admastor took the thing in coalsoak , then headed to barnacles loop , and on the way was intercepted / had a big problem there is to HIP named in the local galnet article , that i did not investigated , but i'm surprised that nobody did
( or i missed the post) .It was just a possibility , as you say it may be ressources related , i dont know :/
Based on all so far gathered evidence Adamastor left Chukhan heading towards barnacles loop, there got orders change course and moved to Musca Dark Region PJ-P B6-1 (whereI thought that the Admastor took the thing in coalsoak , then headed to barnacles loop , and on the way was intercepted / had a big problem there is to HIP named in the local galnet article , that i did not investigated , but i'm surprised that nobody did
got "that thing" onboard) and headed towards HIP 69200 where all crew left or died and Adamastor returned at sublight speed to Chukhan.
There was idea that it was covert course for 1st part of journey, but I still think it is too far and mainly listening post is not exactly on course which was mentioned in journal entry (to be found at any base in Chukhan). Cannon have nice tool for show course of Adamastor with all mentioned "course set points": https://map.canonn.tech/route_adamastor.html
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Well the original trilogy is, the later ones where he shoehorned the Robots into Foundation aren't as good to my mind.The Foundation Series is a good read
There was a great radio version done of the Foundation Trilogy back in the 1970s IIRC.
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A good analogy could be, The Pilots fed are The first Foundation and The Dark wheel / Raxxla are the secretive Second Foundation, who control everything, including the Pilots Fed, while remaining hidden.
Where did I put my tin foil hat ?
I think you should. However I think its more that the Club are the only game in town and the Dark Wheel are like the Mule.
The only info I have comes from DW Lore Tour where he said the Thargs may have been attracted to Pleiades because it was a 'young' nebula and there may be more energy there for them, think he mentioned radiation as well. Dunno if that was speculation or a hidden glimpse inside though. Couldnt do the science anyway so no idea what drives would be powered by what exactly or how they would work.
Ooph don't go to "barnacles loop" its rough round there...
I'm also glad the Adamastor didn't reach there either
Remember the Mudlarks!
It's worth noting, the ship wasn't heading to Barnard's Loop, it was heading towards Barnard's Loop.
You can head towards something without it being your actual direction. I'm pretty convinced the LP was their intended destination, since they were being deliberately covert.
Wasnt it headed towards the loop with 370ly worth of fuel too ?
If that was the case, which i think it was ?. well the LP was 365ly.
I might have things mixed up the 29th was my birthday and things were a little blurry !
Yup.
Couple of things i looked at was its estimated sublight speed.
I worked it out at 0.9128C
Based on this it arrived at hip 65201 at approximately 3200 ED timeline.
When looking at its journey back from the Coalsack it wasnt heading towards Chukchan it was heading in a different direction and certainly not towards Barnards loop.
Doing an approximate straight line trace it was heading up the galactic plane in the direction so it would eventually pass close by Polaris (with all the historic elite significance that has) and out towards the Elephants trunk nebula.
Im also curious as to where the scientist was hoping to escape to in her Sidewinder. There were no frame shift drives available in 3111 nor were 2b drives available. From reading lore stuff ships used the Faraway drive which was risky and needed extensive infrastructure to operate.
I worked it out at 0.9128C
Based on this it arrived at hip 65201 at approximately 3200 ED timeline.
When looking at its journey back from the Coalsack it wasnt heading towards Chukchan it was heading in a different direction and certainly not towards Barnards loop.
Doing an approximate straight line trace it was heading up the galactic plane in the direction so it would eventually pass close by Polaris (with all the historic elite significance that has) and out towards the Elephants trunk nebula.
Im also curious as to where the scientist was hoping to escape to in her Sidewinder. There were no frame shift drives available in 3111 nor were 2b drives available. From reading lore stuff ships used the Faraway drive which was risky and needed extensive infrastructure to operate.
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Was thinking it might be a good idea to solve those points we know so we can focus on those we don't?
1. We've pretty much been given 2 new names which seem to be conected to the whole inra/azimuth/pharmasapien/aegis thing(included).
Considering that we already about thargoids and how they like ammonia worlds, and are probably ammonia based, can we assume that these companies interests are in the ammonia and how that benefits mankind?
For reference
1. ammonia is mostly used as a fertiliser on earth which allows many more to have food, which would be useful for human colonization.
2. it is also used as a building block for many drugs.(pharmasapien)
With relation to first point of OP, does this answer it or at least make it more plain that they are in it for the ammonia?
1. We've pretty much been given 2 new names which seem to be conected to the whole inra/azimuth/pharmasapien/aegis thing(included).
Considering that we already about thargoids and how they like ammonia worlds, and are probably ammonia based, can we assume that these companies interests are in the ammonia and how that benefits mankind?
For reference
1. ammonia is mostly used as a fertiliser on earth which allows many more to have food, which would be useful for human colonization.
2. it is also used as a building block for many drugs.(pharmasapien)
With relation to first point of OP, does this answer it or at least make it more plain that they are in it for the ammonia?
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Well, since the 'goids and the guardians didn't get along, it may be fair to assume that there is something in nebulas that they fought over.
'goids seem to like to congregate, wonders why...
Why are nebulas special to both...?
If one can carry a letter in an FTL ship, then by definition we have FTL communications. However, I think we are talking about FTL comms of the not written variety.
Ammonia is also used as a refrigerant, a cleaning agent and also a fuel and precursor to some explosives