The Joystick/Controller discussion thread
Still not working. Restarted in training mode..but i get a window-sound when i put it into the usb-slot and a message i got also, saying "device driver installed", so from this side things seem normal, its just not working, mouse is working as usual.
@Cody: what does the profil do ? Seems a finnish one, but using the english client.
@Cody: what does the profil do ? Seems a finnish one, but using the english client.
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HOTAS Shoulder. Anybody getting bad asymetrical pain from joystick use?
Have logged in several solid months of Elite so far. It has been keeping me playing for long durations.
I use an X52pro HOTAS controller and I have had used it for 7 years on and off. From time to time I may get a little bit of a sore wrist from the stick and I expect that, this has not happened as much lately. However, I have been getting a terribly painful shoulder from the throttle.
Keep in mind this is being aggravated by falling down a set of stairs...
My shoulder was getting tight, especially that spot dead centre between the shoulder blades, then my stairs decided to throw me into the air and I landed flat on my back on the stairs, leaving some lovely 'grill marks' on my back all the way down to my calves.
This of course made matters incredibly worse and I made the terrible mistake of taking the day off work (a computer desk job)....playing elite...(a computer desk job with HOTAS) due to my wipe-out. I can guarantee you that going to work was probably a better, healthier idea.
I basicly have a full left shoulder throttle control pain. This comes and goes regardless of falling down stairs, it is just really amplified.
Anybody know methods of avoiding these asymmetrical muscle pains? Stretches or perhaps proper chair/desk/joystick positioning? We have guidelines at work on proper posture to prevent back injury from being on a desk with a keyboard, its actually considered quite the serious insurance thing.
Anybody getting these issues?
Yes, grip tape has been applied to my stairs to prevent 'these issues' so no I don't need that snarky remark heheheh.
Have logged in several solid months of Elite so far. It has been keeping me playing for long durations.
I use an X52pro HOTAS controller and I have had used it for 7 years on and off. From time to time I may get a little bit of a sore wrist from the stick and I expect that, this has not happened as much lately. However, I have been getting a terribly painful shoulder from the throttle.
Keep in mind this is being aggravated by falling down a set of stairs...
My shoulder was getting tight, especially that spot dead centre between the shoulder blades, then my stairs decided to throw me into the air and I landed flat on my back on the stairs, leaving some lovely 'grill marks' on my back all the way down to my calves.
This of course made matters incredibly worse and I made the terrible mistake of taking the day off work (a computer desk job)....playing elite...(a computer desk job with HOTAS) due to my wipe-out. I can guarantee you that going to work was probably a better, healthier idea.
I basicly have a full left shoulder throttle control pain. This comes and goes regardless of falling down stairs, it is just really amplified.
Anybody know methods of avoiding these asymmetrical muscle pains? Stretches or perhaps proper chair/desk/joystick positioning? We have guidelines at work on proper posture to prevent back injury from being on a desk with a keyboard, its actually considered quite the serious insurance thing.
Anybody getting these issues?
Yes, grip tape has been applied to my stairs to prevent 'these issues' so no I don't need that snarky remark heheheh.
Exercise, in particular, strength training
I like to play games for many hours at a time and this used to cause all kinds of body pains. Back, neck, shoulders whatever it hurt after not moving much for 8 hours straight...not really surprised when I looked back on it
A PT suggested I do some strength training for an hour a few times a week. I focused on major muscle groups aiming for overall strength over muscle size. Squats, dead lifts, running, pullups etc etc...it hurt a lot at first but after doing it for a few months I noticed that I no longer had back pain...ever and my long gaming sessions never end in pain (except that rear pain from sitting on it too long, lol).
Us office folk live seriously sedentary lives and adding hours of gameplay on top of that is just not good. The body starts crying for a challenge.
EDIT: As for the injury...some hot baths might help. Your muscles are constricting to help repair and contain damage. If you are not doing anything intensive, a hot bath will help those muscles relax and be in less pain.
I like to play games for many hours at a time and this used to cause all kinds of body pains. Back, neck, shoulders whatever it hurt after not moving much for 8 hours straight...not really surprised when I looked back on it
A PT suggested I do some strength training for an hour a few times a week. I focused on major muscle groups aiming for overall strength over muscle size. Squats, dead lifts, running, pullups etc etc...it hurt a lot at first but after doing it for a few months I noticed that I no longer had back pain...ever and my long gaming sessions never end in pain (except that rear pain from sitting on it too long, lol).
Us office folk live seriously sedentary lives and adding hours of gameplay on top of that is just not good. The body starts crying for a challenge.
EDIT: As for the injury...some hot baths might help. Your muscles are constricting to help repair and contain damage. If you are not doing anything intensive, a hot bath will help those muscles relax and be in less pain.
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If you have an adjustable desk height or chair height, you might want to lower the desk a bit more than usual if you have it set up for keyboard. The joystick and throttle are higher than the keyboard, so you are putting extra stress on your shoulder by holding the arm above the rest point.
Raising the chair is another way of achieving it, but you will put different stress on your lower back/hamstrings if you do that.
Ideally, when you relax your shoulders with your hands on the joystick/throttle your forearms should be parallel to the desk.
That's helped me quite a lot.
I also agree with Monk about the exercise; even getting up and moving around the house for 5 minutes an hour will make a difference.
Raising the chair is another way of achieving it, but you will put different stress on your lower back/hamstrings if you do that.
Ideally, when you relax your shoulders with your hands on the joystick/throttle your forearms should be parallel to the desk.
That's helped me quite a lot.
I also agree with Monk about the exercise; even getting up and moving around the house for 5 minutes an hour will make a difference.
Yes, it seems to be the constant fine adjustments which cause pain for me. Wish we had some sort of autopilot for supercruise. That would help some.
Get yourself a good chair with a good sitting position.
It may also be this: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment at the Elbow (Cubital Tunnel Syndrome)
This also starts at the shoulder and works is way to the shoulder and then to the ring and pinky finger. It is right near the "funny" bone nerve.
I had the same issue and placed a small cushion at my arms resting spot and it the issue was resolved after about a week.
This also starts at the shoulder and works is way to the shoulder and then to the ring and pinky finger. It is right near the "funny" bone nerve.
I had the same issue and placed a small cushion at my arms resting spot and it the issue was resolved after about a week.
+1 to Strength training. The older we get, the more we need this. It helps keep our metabolism up and helps to prevent injury from everyday tasks.
Take breaks.
Hot shower or bath with Epsom salt. If you have access to Tiger Balm, that stuff is great for sore muscles.
Take breaks.
Hot shower or bath with Epsom salt. If you have access to Tiger Balm, that stuff is great for sore muscles.
Minions, that`s what you need, Minions!
Just scream at them ... "Throttle Up!!" "Throttle Down!" "Yaw Right!" "Yaw Left" "FIRE GODAMIT!!!"
Seriously though, I have a X52 Pro and have the pleasure of suffering from Rheumatoid Arthritis (Old Age & Stuff). So I (literally) feel your pain. As said above, good posture, regular breaks and "strength exercises". I also find a generous Single Malt helps mellow the discomfort
Just scream at them ... "Throttle Up!!" "Throttle Down!" "Yaw Right!" "Yaw Left" "FIRE GODAMIT!!!"
Seriously though, I have a X52 Pro and have the pleasure of suffering from Rheumatoid Arthritis (Old Age & Stuff). So I (literally) feel your pain. As said above, good posture, regular breaks and "strength exercises". I also find a generous Single Malt helps mellow the discomfort
I have a good woman that stands behind me and rubs my shoulders so I don't get sore. ... lol... yeah right.
My right wrist has been killing me the last few days, and I'm thinking it's the joystick.