The New Smeaton (if you have friends to wing with) not quite as good but still a good exploit ??

Wing mission

Haul 4000 tonne of something to somewhere 3 hops away, pays 8 mil ( insert your own cargo, distance and payout here).

You have nothing decent to fly, say a Sidewinder, 2 tonne cargo space, but have 3 mates with T9's.

Jackpot, wing up, haul 2 tonne, let them do the rest and pocket 8 mil each and for you it was for a 3 hop trip.

Not sure that was what FDev had in mind with wing trading, maybe it was and I'm just disappointed.

That sidewinder is a fighter escort.

Having the forums been asking for a way of hiring escorts for a while? Now you can!

Working as designed.
 
Not obvious to me.

Explain why you, enjoying a game with mates in a wing and undoubtedly having a good time and an enhanced experience because you are winged up, should gain any additional credit for the same task as someone who does it alone. Nothing at all obvious about that.

I've been in online squadrons teaming up, doing scenarios, meeting up at regular times, it was great. However we never got or expected the game to reward us for doing so ahead of a solo player. Our additional enjoyment of the game as a combined force was reward enough.

so why do you feel entitled?

Im entitled but you expect wing missions to be balanced for solo players? Pull the other one will ye.

You make no sense,your only proposal would penalise wing players in wing missions and you can earn money just as quick with solo missions yet you still cant see the trees for the forrest.

Wing missions have changed nothing and only add to the game.

Wouldnt mind your original point was about equal contribution for wing missions and their rewards then somehow ends up that wing missions are penalising solo players.

Ive tried,if you cant see where im coming from at this point might as well call it a day.

o7
 
Man you guys cry too much.

8 MI is a joke, you can make more than that in less time that you will need doing this WING MISSION EXPLORING (Road to riches).

Just stop man, they already nerfed wing missions to the ground.

Would you be happier if I used an example paying 25mil? or 200,000, or 45mil, pick a number !

As it stands wing missions are designed for single and multiple players to complete. Price shown is not price paid for the task, that increases with wing number, but amount hauled stays the same. No logic whatsoever.

Im entitled but you expect wing missions to be balanced for solo players? Pull the other one will ye.

You make no sense,your only proposal would penalise wing players in wing missions and you can earn money just as quick with solo missions yet you still cant see the trees for the forrest.

Wing missions have changed nothing and only add to the game.

Wouldnt mind your original point was about equal contribution for wing missions and their rewards then somehow ends up that wing missions are penalising solo players.

Ive tried,if you cant see where im coming from at this point might as well call it a day.

o7

Bye
 
Would you be happier if I used an example paying 25mil? or 200,000, or 45mil, pick a number !

As it stands wing missions are designed for single and multiple players to complete. Price shown is not price paid for the task, that increases with wing number, but amount hauled stays the same. No logic whatsoever.



Bye

The price payed is the price showed in the mission description, we CANT send credits/request credits.
Perhaps you forget about that,
Don't matter if 4 people earned 8MI, this not increased the payout indivually. So - this basically is a concept just to attract players.

Even with this feature i can bet that nobody will use this missions in long term since they pay incredubly LOW now - you can make much more money bulk trading in a type7 in the same timeframe.
 
That's why it's a wing mission and not a regular mission.

but they are not "Wing" missions per se, they are recommended for a wing, not exclusive, not barred from a single player.

If they want to make Wing missions popular, make em exclusive, minimum wing numbers required, pay like now, 4 times the single rate and stop filling the boards with them so there nothing left on offer but Wing missions.

As it is the boards are filled with Wing missions that pay a Wing up to 4 times what anyone else gets for exactly the same task.
 
Nonsense.

Board says it pays 2mil to haul a load.
I do it and it pays 2 mil.
4 man Wing does it and it pays 8 Mil

I don't think its explicitly mentioned anywhere that mission board payout figure equates to the total payout for the mission. All it shows is what you, as an individual, gets paid.
 
The current payout must be a mistake. Like when Sandro was saying on stream not to be alarmed by the small numbers, because they can just change em later..
Well they just forgot to change em right, right?
I flippin' hope so cus they are a great idea, but just a waste of effort at the moment. Unless the P2P issues are just so bad that making them unappealing to players is their "solution".

I have more faith than that though [yesnod] .. Just hope it's not misplaced :O
 
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The current payout must be a mistake. Like when Sandro was saying on stream not to be alarmed by the small numbers, because they can just change em later..
Well they just forgot to change em right, right?
I flippin' hope so cus they are a great idea, but just a waste of effort at the moment. Unless the P2P issues are just so bad that making them unappealing to players is their "solution".

I have more faith than that though [yesnod] .. Just hope it's not misplaced :O

Waste of effort for wing or solo?
Or both?
 
Ok so why do they get paid 2, 3 or 4 times( in total) the amount the solo guy gets for hauling the same stuff inside the same time window set ? Doesn't seem fair to me.

If you complete mission X you get paid Y
Regardless if wing or solo

That *is* everyone getting paid the same thing

That the wing may be able to do it quick than the solo player is a consequence of team work.

But hey it might be a wing of 4 newer players in Cobra MkIII scompeteting to one Cmdr Solo in a Type 9 and so the one player does it faster than the group, so who is fairly set back here?


People have different ships, do we need to make that fair too?

There should be only one ship with one config, no pay for any activity in game, just a salary per day, and there would still be people claiming others are better of and it is unfair and an exploit, of people existing that have stuff you want and deserve and need but don't have so much be some crime against existence
 
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