Viajero
Volunteer Moderator
That is true indeed.There's no such thing as 100% bug-free software.
That is true indeed.There's no such thing as 100% bug-free software.
I've been a software developer for 30 odd years (some of them were very odd), and I know this to be true.That is true indeed.
funnily enough, frontier's software quality strategy might be indeed (and literally) that: "waiting for perfection to appear"I've been a software developer for 30 odd years (some of them were very odd), and I know this to be true.
I also know that life is short, and that there's no point in denying yourself life's pleasures in waiting for "perfection" to appear - it won't happen.
Some people lost all they had four times in week since Beyond launched. It's great that you were lucky so far, but people aren't expecting bug free or perfection, people expect to be able to use a teleporter without losing their base, or be able to play ironman without being killed by a cheater overruling all anti-pvo mechanics.I've been a software developer for 30 odd years (some of them were very odd), and I know this to be true.
I also know that life is short, and that there's no point in denying yourself life's pleasures in waiting for "perfection" to appear - it won't happen.
Just play the game. Or don't. It's entirely up to you.![]()
Yeah. I have only had 2 serious crashes since the update. The majority of the bugs are either unimportant or just annoying, but nothing game stopping.Your choice of course, but you really don't need to. It's more than playable. I frequently go hours without encountering any issues at all.
There's no such thing as 100% bug-free software.
I think they should have stuck to the original idea to divide it up into three releases instead of a big one. Too many changes just increases the chances of more serious bugs.Some people lost all they had four times in week since Beyond launched. It's great that you were lucky so far, but people aren't expecting bug free or perfection, people expect to be able to use a teleporter without losing their base, or be able to play ironman without being killed by a cheater overruling all anti-pvo mechanics.
Let's be honest: HG didn't scrambke nearly 24/7 because it was/is so peachy. It was a clusterfarce that they are gradually fixing as best as they can. Life is indeed short, and many don't want to spend that on a computer game building stuff they can lose at any moment.
This is why we waited 20 years for Elite 4.funnily enough, frontier's software quality strategy might be indeed (and literally) that: "waiting for perfection to appear"![]()
No. For one thing, I've never experienced the bug you mention despite over 300 hours playtime. This means it doesn't happen in all cases on all systems. Consequently, it's a low priority bug... and software developers / engineers fix things in order of priority. Low priority bugs often take a long time to fix for this reason - there's always something more "important". It is also a question of how easily it can be reproduced - as I said, I've never seen that behaviour (not doubting it exists btw, that's not the same thing). There is also the scenario where they think "Oh, well we're going to be redeveloping X completely anyway - that'll probably fix it - no point in investigating why Bug Y is happening on the old system".i've been "sw developer" for roughly the same time (we're nowadays called "sw engineers", mind you) and i can tell you this: no bug fixes itself. fixing (e.g.) the damn gizmo sometimes not displaying on targeted ships after years ... that isn't "waiting for perfection to appear", that's not giving a flying fig (and being a "sw crook" btw).
Not saying anything about the severity or annoyance level of the bugs. Just that there will always be bugs in software. Every piece of software. Even Windows has bugs! gaspSome people lost all they had four times in week since Beyond launched. It's great that you were lucky so far, but people aren't expecting bug free or perfection, people expect to be able to use a teleporter without losing their base, or be able to play ironman without being killed by a cheater overruling all anti-pvo mechanics.
They scrambled 24/7 because they care deeply about this game, and that people don't experience some of the things you mention above. It was hardly a "clusterfarce". I was able to play quite effectively on day one of the patch - as were the vast majority of people.Let's be honest: HG didn't scrambke nearly 24/7 because it was/is so peachy. It was a clusterfarce that they are gradually fixing as best as they can. Life is indeed short, and many don't want to spend that on a computer game building stuff they can lose at any moment.
Nobody is claiming it should be 100% bug free or that other software is. This is the most blatant, and needles strawman I have seen in a long while. Tens of thousands of people couldn't even get past the into logo on all platforms including consoles. This is widely reported in gaming media and caused the NMS ratings to tank again. That doesnt happen when a few people experience some bugs, as with all software, but because piles of people experienced game breaking bugs.Not saying anything about the severity or annoyance level of the bugs. Just that there will always be bugs in software. Every piece of software. Even Windows has bugs! gasp
happens to all that use vr.No. For one thing, I've never experienced the bug you mention despite over 300 hours playtime.
priorities are fine and all, it's still defective software. if they haven't had a chance to look at this in a couple of years then that just means there's something else going wrong up there.Consequently, it's a low priority bug... and software developers / engineers fix things in order of priority
On pc it is generally fine, although it offers the same issues as pancake. If you are confident playing pancake there is no real reason not to play vr.How is it playing for VR users atm? I've resisted diving in due to the initial feedback. Is it safe enough now?
Simply amazing. It only took me a while to get used to the controllers using a WMR.How is VR play atm? I've resisted diving in due to the initial feedback. Is it safe enough now?
"The game is fine guys, no worries! But do make frequent backups of your folder, for, like, you know, no reason."If you are that afraid, then you can simply back up your save often. It is located in %Appdata%\HelloGames. That way if something borks, you will have a backup. Easy peasy.
Overinterpretation. I said if he is so afraid of bugs, he can take extra precautions. I am playing almost exclusively in VR and having a blast, but I started a new save with Beyond. Perhaps that is the secret sauce. For me this release is much smoother than many FDev releases lol"The game is fine guys, no worries! But do make frequent backups of your folder, for, like, you know, no reason."