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[jasonbarron]

I'm not seeing a valid reason this conversation shouldn't be in Dangerous Discussion.

Is there room at the bar for me? I have some folding money that I'm sure those dancers wouldn't mind getting a piece of

 

[Ouberos]

The curve approach is also faster due to avoiding the gravity wells on the ecliptic.

I've explained that a few times to people and they don't believe me. I've looked on the Elite Dangerous encyclopedia (otherwise known as YouTube) but couldn't find a definitive answer. It is though isn't it?

 

[Ouberos]

I'm not seeing a valid reason this conversation shouldn't be in Dangerous Discussion.

Is there room at the bar for me? I have some folding money that I'm sure those dancers wouldn't mind getting a piece of

Be sure to sit close to me. I'm about out of diamonds.fir some reason they don't seem to like working on credit.

 

[Goose4291]

I'm not seeing a valid reason this conversation shouldn't be in Dangerous Discussion.

Is there room at the bar for me? I have some folding money that I'm sure those dancers wouldn't mind getting a piece of

Always space for you here old chap.

I see one reason it's not allowed: Clearly we're discussing Open in a positive light.

Mobius PG announcements, Dangerous Discussion.
Traders/Miners/Players of Open? Back in your hole.

I've explained that a few times to people and they don't believe me. I've looked on the Elite Dangerous encyclopedia (otherwise known as YouTube) but couldn't find a definitive answer. It is though isn't it?

Yeah it is, I think. Part of the reason it helps with the evasion as it keeps you out of the gravity well of other planets on your approach.

 

[Stigbob]

I've explained that a few times to people and they don't believe me. I've looked on the Elite Dangerous encyclopedia (otherwise known as YouTube) but couldn't find a definitive answer. It is though isn't it?

Yep, the further you get from planets/stars the faster you can go by FSD (easily tested in game and the planet braking maneuver wouldn't work without it) so avoiding gravity wells for the fastest run is only sensible. The ecliptic is where all the gravity wells are, so swing out to avoid it.

 

[Ouberos]

I only just noticed the thread got relegated. Funny how this place changed. I miss the old Dangerous Discussion.

Back in my day forum PvP WAS dangerous.

 

[Ouberos]

Yep, the further you get from planets/stars the faster you can go by FSD (easily tested in game and the planet braking maneuver wouldn't work without it) so avoiding gravity wells for the fastest run is only sensible. The ecliptic is where all the gravity wells are, so swing out to avoid it.

Is fuel use linear? Does going faster use more fuel I wonder? On this Core Dynamics CG I've been real close to an empty tank and the last run I headed straight because I was so low.

Any fuel rats in today?

 

[jasonbarron]

A cantina where we could all gather would be a great use of a spacelegs mechanic. That, coupled with the ability to speak to each other. Might make for some interesting encounters.

 

[Stigbob]

Is fuel use linear? Does going faster use more fuel I wonder? On this Core Dynamics CG I've been real close to an empty tank and the last run I headed straight because I was so low.

Any fuel rats in today?

Fuel use is dependent on energy use (I think) you can stretch it out by shutting down non-essentials, but I'm no expert.

It takes less time when travelling away from the ecliptic so logically you'll burn less fuel on a curve if it's a crowded system, straight line would be most efficient in an empty system other than the star and your destination.

 

[Goose4291]

A cantina where we could all gather would be a great use of a spacelegs mechanic. That, coupled with the ability to speak to each other. Might make for some interesting encounters.

Needs drunk mehanics like GTA though

Fuel use is dependent on energy use (I think) you can stretch it out by shutting down non-essentials, but I'm no expert.

It takes less time when travelling away from the ecliptic so logically you'll burn less fuel on a curve if it's a crowded system, straight line would be most efficient in an empty system other than the star and your destination.

Im fairly sure it is linked directly to your power consumption, which is why the fuel rats say your first action before calling them should be to shut down all non essentiala.

 

[shadowhand]

Eh, I've tried to stay away from cantinas like that since that batarian bartender tried to poison me at Afterlife.

 

[Sylveria]

Back in my day forum PvP WAS dangerous.

In the snow, both ways, uphill?

 

[Ouberos]

In the snow, both ways, uphill?

Yes.

*I have no idea what you mean.*

 

[Stigbob]

Yes.

*I have no idea what you mean.*

[video=youtube;1by0-nkKOTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1by0-nkKOTs[/video]

 

[Sylveria]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1by0-nkKOTs

Exactly what I was referring to

 

[Chaparral]

Pour me a Ryncol with a Lavian chaser. Where can I find the Onionhead plug?

 

[Stinja]

Is fuel use linear? Does going faster use more fuel I wonder?

Any fuel rats in today?

Morning, merry crimbo all

Fuel burns at your consumption rate, which is the number 2 below (0.27/h), as measured in Tons per hour:

Deactivating modules reduces the consumption rate (or building for lower power consumption in Outfitting initially), which reduces your fuel use.

The fat bar (number 3) is your main fuel tank, and is consumed when making FSD jumps.
The thin bar directly below Fuel (between 2 and 3 as numbered in pic above) is your reserve, and refreshes from the main tank. You consume this in normal space, and i'm pretty sure speed has no effect (or using boost). Super cruise also uses the reserve, but "speed" vs fuel consumption seems to be strictly related to your consumption rate.
Not 100% positive on normal space stuff, but pretty sure, as most Fuel Rat clients are stationary once they need us, so would require testing with identical ships for a definitive answer.

As for looping vs travelling straight, sounds like a simple race-off to test. Line up a few CMDRs at a star, half go straight and half loop, see who gets to within 7.5km of the target station first (to ignore differences in docking speed).

 

[Goose4291]

Morning, merry crimbo all

Fuel burns at your consumption rate, which is the number 2 below (0.27/h), as measured in Tons per hour:

http://guides.gamepressure.com/elitedangerous/gfx/word/447221154.jpg

Deactivating modules reduces the consumption rate (or building for lower power consumption in Outfitting initially), which reduces your fuel use.

The fat bar (number 3) is your main fuel tank, and is consumed when making FSD jumps.
The thin bar directly below Fuel (between 2 and 3 as numbered in pic above) is your reserve, and refreshes from the main tank. You consume this in normal space, and i'm pretty sure speed has no effect (or using boost). Super cruise also uses the reserve, but "speed" vs fuel consumption seems to be strictly related to your consumption rate.
Not 100% positive on normal space stuff, but pretty sure, as most Fuel Rat clients are stationary once they need us, so would require testing with identical ships for a definitive answer.

As for looping vs travelling straight, sounds like a simple race-off to test. Line up a few CMDRs at a star, half go straight and half loop, see who gets to within 7.5km of the target station first (to ignore differences in docking speed).

I've never seen the consumption bar spike when boosting (even when the thrusters equate to more than 50% of my powerdraw and im boosting, or firing constantly with energy weapons) so Im assuming not.

Which is odd, because consumption does spike when you use the vertical thrusters on the SRV.

 

[Ouberos]

+1 rep.

Never realised that figure 2 was tons per hour of fuel. You learn something new every day.

Also merry Christmas.

 

[Starwolfe]

Morning, merry crimbo all

Fuel burns at your consumption rate, which is the number 2 below (0.27/h), as measured in Tons per hour:

http://guides.gamepressure.com/elitedangerous/gfx/word/447221154.jpg

Deactivating modules reduces the consumption rate (or building for lower power consumption in Outfitting initially), which reduces your fuel use.

The fat bar (number 3) is your main fuel tank, and is consumed when making FSD jumps.
The thin bar directly below Fuel (between 2 and 3 as numbered in pic above) is your reserve, and refreshes from the main tank. You consume this in normal space, and i'm pretty sure speed has no effect (or using boost). Super cruise also uses the reserve, but "speed" vs fuel consumption seems to be strictly related to your consumption rate.
Not 100% positive on normal space stuff, but pretty sure, as most Fuel Rat clients are stationary once they need us, so would require testing with identical ships for a definitive answer.

As for looping vs travelling straight, sounds like a simple race-off to test. Line up a few CMDRs at a star, half go straight and half loop, see who gets to within 7.5km of the target station first (to ignore differences in docking speed).

Great pick, and good info but I do have something to add to it;

I have always interpreted the thin line (between 2 and 3) as the reactor tank. IIRC it is 1 ton of fuel I think and is part of that drain speed on 2 and as you stated, once empty it pulls from the Main tanks to refill.

Your speed does have a slight impact on the fuel consumption rate. But only with relevance to your FSD.

Supercruise rate is slightly higher depending on the FSD size than normal-space running when active.

Otherwise the drain is in proportion to your Powerplant size and how much power you need to generate. Run less stuff, or less energy-consuming stuff, less fuel gets eaten.