It's clear that some face little challenge from background NPCs - however it's worth noting again that half of players are, by definition, at or below median skill.
To some, certainly. The same is not the case for all players.
Indeed we have.
Indeed - noting that an Open-PvE mode would not be aimed at all players, as there's a subset of the player-base that enjoys / tolerates / enjoys the frisson of the possibility that they may be engaged in PvP - and adding an Open-PvE mode would not remove the existing Open(-PvP) mode.
I'd certainly be supportive of the addition of an Open-PvE game mode - as it would allow players with no interest in the optional PvP aspect of the game to play among other players with a guarantee that they would not be engaged in PvP*. PvP interdiction (and wake following?) would be removed in an Open-PvE mode, as it would remain an annoyance if left in.
TBH the CG campers were no more than nuisaance value which is why I switched to PG for CGs and similar events. It's either that or add them to a block list.
Similar to myself in that respect (though I suspect in slightly different ship types).
Nothing quite like trying to outfox someone in Supercruise and when failing, submitting to an interdiction, flipping and burning past someone at 745 m/s constant boost and popping chaff while they struggle to keep up with you/their shots go wide due to using gimbals/hurling expletives at you over chat.
Last bit of challenge I felt in ED, tbh.
It is hard to buy that "challenge" claim when the reality is that quite a large portion of gankers actually seem to seek the least challenge possible. Just by looking at the leaderboard and the ratio between kills and deaths on gankers.org you can infer how much of an actual challenge some of the gankers seek - virtually none.Yeah yeah, sure.
In reality, it looks like this.
Okay hun.Yeah yeah, sure.
In reality, it looks like this.
I'm not getting into the first paragraph, but I suspect folk with the Death Ratios you mention are probably camped at Deciat and slapping Asps on approach to dock at the engineering port, which is very different from how I encountered folk back in the day, mostly due to not constantly going to Deciat constantly.
Care to explain, hun, where exactly the challenge and "thrill" lies in exploding a trading ship in a combat optimized one? You can't, that's why you're being condescending. As a lot of self-proclaimed "PvPers" are.
I think your desire to vent on a percieved ganker is telling here Helmut.
Which is in stark contrast to the tale of "seeking a challenge" and "we do it because human players are so much more unpredictable than NPCs".
PvPer or Open Only PP Proponent does not instantly equate to ganker.
I have no desire to vent on a "perceived ganker". I am actually fine with a ganker who admits they do it because it's easy and gives them a fizz in their tinkle. I can respect an honest ganker. I despise a ganker creating the worst imbalance between attacker and, for lack of a better word, victim, and then run around talking about "unpredictability of human opponents" and "challenges".
In reality, I've heard that challenge excuse more often from gankers than from actual PvPers over the years.
I mean, you literally do.
In the context of Doctor Dread's image, which kind of actually represents the balance the average non-PvP player faces in open, and the condescending "okay hun". You can disagree without being condescending.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't one of the characters in that image already betrayed the other?
