The PC reboots when an asteroid explodes
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Also yeah, huge bottleneck. He needs both relly.
There isn't any fundamental difference between a laptop and desktop CPU of the same die flavor. All Intel needs to release mainstream desktop variants are enough dies that make the cut for higher clock speeds without exceeding power and thermal limits. Comet Lake, based on Intel's first 10nm production process wouldn't ever have cut it, but Ice Lake might...of course depending on yeilds and margins they may wait for their third generation 10nm process before pushing 10nm desktop parts.
ED is quite a demanding game for GPUs and will load them heavily. That RX 580 is also relatively power hungry and will show the weakness of a cheap PSU.
Anything that reduces power consumption could work as a stop-gap.
Capping frame rate is probably easier than undervolting for someone of more modest experience, however.
CPU is weak, but I doubt it's causing the system to reset.
Rx 580 is the same Gpu as rx480(near 1 year beetwen them)but oveclocked(5-10% faster).You can apply firmware on 480 to get 580,strange but possible...480 runs very hot by default...maybe overheating(in the moment of asteroid intense explosion) plus CPU severe bottlenecking(only dual core)...motherboard cant handle too...
I would do some stress with HWMonitor free program for 5min,and see the outcome,also watch for temperature
I would do some stress with HWMonitor free program for 5min,and see the outcome,also watch for temperature
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The PSU probably needs replacing. Your PSU provides 500W, but that 500W is spread amongst the power rails and there's no guarantee that the wattage getting to your graphics card is sufficient, plus even with a good PSU pushing it to that maximum output can create instability. Most good power supplies will actually provide info for both a peak and sustained output rating, whereas most cheap brands only provide a peak rating. When I was building PC's for a business I owned we always specced out power supplies to provide at least 150w over the demand of the PC for this reason if the customer didn't want to pay for a good name brand. A cheap generic Power Supply that claims 500W rating is probably only good for a sustained 350W output. Look for a PSU that provides at least 500W sustained output.
Looking at the specs online for your PSU gives a maximum output of 500W but it doesn't provide a sustained or continuous output rating.
Whereas, say a Corsair PSU the CX550M will state the continuous output not the peak output and will probably be good for momentary peaks up to 650W.
CX Series™ CX550M — 550 Watt 80 PLUS® Bronze Certified Modular ATX PSU
CX Series™ Modular power supply units are an excellent choice for basic system builds and desktop PC computer upgrades, offering high reliability, low noise, and the flexibility of modular cabling.
www.corsair.com
So the first thing I would do is replace the generic PSU with a good name brand PSU with at least 500W sustained output.
If you have a new graphics card, you will possible need to upgrade your power supply.
I recently updated the graphics card in an old PC (so I could better run Elite in it) and while it ran Windows perfectly well, as soon as I started Elite, the machine would crash.
Simple solution was to buy a new more powerful power supply and problem was fixed.
I thing the graphic effects of the explosions are forcing your graphics card to start streaching itself, requirering more power than you machine can supply.
Check the power requirements of you graphics card and other equipment. I'd suspect you are very close to the limit for your power system.
More detailed than my reply, I found a cheap 700W one.The PSU probably needs replacing. (sniped the science)
Its a bit noisy but runs fine. Fits in with what varonica says.
Another problem the OP is going to have - apart from the Celeron (bad CPU) & ropey PSU is that there are no modern drivers for Windows 8.1 for the RX 580. AMD's current drivers wupport Windows 7 or Windows 10 only, not 8.1. Support for Windows 8/8.1 was dropped with 17.7.2.
This in itself could be causing issues with the card causing the pc to reboot.
This in itself could be causing issues with the card causing the pc to reboot.
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If you want a good PSU you should take a look at bequiet.
By the way, a PSU runs most efficient at 40-60% usage, so if your system requiers 300W you need a 550-650W PSU unless you want to waste most of the energy.
By the way, a PSU runs most efficient at 40-60% usage, so if your system requiers 300W you need a 550-650W PSU unless you want to waste most of the energy.
I'd go with something like that. Brands are easily negotiable but you want 80 Plus certified, around 650W, and if you like clean cabling, Fully Modular is always good.
But you want high amount of reviews, high amount of stars or eggs (if newegg shopping), and a recognizable brand. Corsair, Seasonic, EVGA, etc...
Nonsense. They are cheaper because they aren't marked up so high.
Its the power supply I think as well.
Do replace that PS with a name brand before you do anything else.
More than you think you need is always better. I've got a 750 w PSU (Corsair) and it's more than I needed. You always think you have enough. There is NEVER enough power. Kirk always demands MORE POWER.
My rule regarding any video card: if you have to overclock it, it's not sufficient. If you can run the most GPU demanding game you have out of the box, get THAT card, THEN overclock it.
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I learned from painful experience that a cheap PSU can be hazardous.
A cheap PSU literally went up in flames in my computer, about 22 years ago. I switched on the computer, and a gout of flames (about 4 inches long) shot out from the back. The piece of scrap fried the CPU, mainboard, pretty much everything. Back then, I didn't know how to fix my own PC, so I was out of luck until my repair shop got around to it . . . since those guys had recommended the PSU, and installed everything, they agreed to reimburse me, which was lucky for me.
Second example. My father had trouble with his PC. The main hard drive would occasionally not show up. My brother and I, by then reasonably tech-savvy, tore it apart. We swapped the drive, updated all drivers, swapped cables, even brought it to a repair shop when all those measures were for nought (the very shop where he had bought the machine originally), where the guy told us that micro-fractures in the mainboard might be responsible. Long story short? I finally gave up, pulled the PSU, a cheap piece of garbage (which I hadn't known, as I hadn't been present when my father ordered it), and slapped in an Enermax. Ka-Zam! Problem solved, never had any more problems with his computer.
If you want to save money, buy a smaller CPU, or don't buy another SSD, but DO NOT skimp on the PSU. That will backfire, and create very nasty problems. Quality PSUs aren't really that expensive. A cheap piece of clap PSU with 700W will get the snot kicked out of it by a Corsair, BeQuiet or Antec PSU with 500W (easily!).
You don't HAVE to upgrade your CPU. But if you do, go with a Ryzen 2nd or Ryzen Third gen, both give intel a run for their money and will save you a good bit. Intel is overpriced garbage right now whose research has been lacking while AMD has busted their butts to come back from non-existence and become a real competitor, the third gens especially for the Ryzen line are notoriously powerful for a much more appropriate price point.
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Good find there. I did not have that info when I posted and looking at the spec. He doesn't have an easy way out.
They have two choices here. Buy a new system or rebuilding their system.
The issue they are going to have when upgrading a system is. Buying a new OS, Motherboard, Power supply SSD or Hard drive ram Might be able to use the case? Basically everything and if he a computer geek install everything.
Good luck, OP.
You can use the same OS license, HDD/SSD and sometimes RAM. In his case he can even keep the Mainboard since the Intel Celeron G3920 runs on Socket 1151. So it's just a new CPU and PSU, probably a better fan / cooler as well.Good find there. I did not have that info when I posted and looking at the spec. He doesn't have an easy way out.
They have two choices here. Buy a new system or rebuilding their system.
The issue they are going to have when upgrading a system is. Buying a new OS, Motherboard, Power supply SSD or Hard drive ram Might be able to use the case? Basically everything and if he a computer geek install everything.
Good luck, OP.
Can't blame the Intel Pentium FDiv bug this time.