at 13 minutes into the discussion the likely preservation of any signs of alien interest in the Solar System for billions of years, which to me seems clearly to indicate Guardians. He talked specifically about being buried in Martian dust (I.e. the ED “Mars Artefact”), but there was a smile on his face during that part of the conversation. It could have been the beer, or he could have been thinking of Raxxla...
m.youtube.com/watch?v=WZez6K2Eoyg
I didn't get that impression. He mentioned the solar system in general, and in the context of Ceres which had the (at the time) "mysterious" bright spot in the crater. That's not to dismiss the idea of alien artifacts in ED being hidden somewhere in Sol though.
 
Do any of the 3rd party tools let us search for a list of systems by specific distance from a location, For example a list of every system exactly 235 ly from shinrarta?

Only one I know of, works off of EDSM, but it works for anything in their database....
But shows ALL systems within the shpere, so youll probably want to copy and past it in to Excel or somthing and sort by distance or w.e. you want


Just replace the X Y Z coordinates with the ones from EDSM for your center system and change the radius (ly) (XYZ is same order on EDSM 123 for coordinates)
 
Are they arranged as co-ordinated sets - i.e. at 120 degree intervals? If so then that's a possible stable arrangement. Still spooky though :)

[Edit]: Isis IX appears (somewhat briefly) in the official novel "Docking is Difficult", which might go some way to explain it's Hand Authored oddness..

Do you remember what happens in the novel at Isis IX? Because there is more oddness in the Isis-system:

  • none of the system bodies have a "discovered by"-entry
  • almost all planets have 4(!) "mapped by"-entries. Isis IX has only 1 "mapped by"-entry which is different to the others
  • the Isis-star is a Class K-star which are usually around 0.6 to 0.9 solar masses; Isis is 0.36 solar masses, thus an unusual K-star
  • the orbits of the gas giants have a recursive/fractal pattern (I really should provide a screenshot/animation here!); when you look at the Orrery, you'll find the orbit of Isis X resembles the orbit of Isis IX resembles the orbit of Isis VIII a.s.o. The Isis-star is basically at the same focal point for every orbit of the larger planets
  • the major axis-values for the planets Isis VII to Isis X all have round numbers
  • the orbital inclination for all planets is divided into three parts, where the inner and outer planets' inclination is identical; you can line the orbits up and you get a nice perfect X for all orbits (again, I shall provide a screenshot here)
Then I have the feeling that the Super Cruise acts different, as if it were on hand brakes; as if there were another invisible mass/system body. I wish we had some telemetry-API since then it would be much easier to measure if the SC-acceleration is different to other systems.
 
Do you remember what happens in the novel at Isis IX? Because there is more oddness in the Isis-system:

  • none of the system bodies have a "discovered by"-entry This is normal for bubble systems that are named
  • almost all planets have 4(!) "mapped by"-entries. Isis IX has only 1 "mapped by"-entry which is different to the others
  • the Isis-star is a Class K-star which are usually around 0.6 to 0.9 solar masses; Isis is 0.36 solar masses, thus an unusual K-star
  • the orbits of the gas giants have a recursive/fractal pattern (I really should provide a screenshot/animation here!); when you look at the Orrery, you'll find the orbit of Isis X resembles the orbit of Isis IX resembles the orbit of Isis VIII a.s.o. The Isis-star is basically at the same focal point for every orbit of the larger planets
    • just evidence it was hand authored.
  • the major axis-values for the planets Isis VII to Isis X all have round numbers ditto
  • the orbital inclination for all planets is divided into three parts, where the inner and outer planets' inclination is identical; you can line the orbits up and you get a nice perfect X for all orbits (again, I shall provide a screenshot here) ditto
Then I have the feeling that the Super Cruise acts different, as if it were on hand brakes; as if there were another invisible mass/system body. I wish we had some telemetry-API since then it would be much easier to measure if the SC-acceleration is different to other systems.

Whilst not an explanation, at least most of what you say is comon enough for hand authored system (i.e. non prodcurally generated) - see my bold italics above..

The mention in the book is a 1 line throwaway:

'Over the years quite a few depressed locals have killed themselves by jumping into our famous never-completed mineshaft,' he said. 'So perhaps we could encourage tourists to come here to do the same. Establish ourselves as a suicide hot-spot. Set up a stall, sell them farewell knick-knacks.' There was a good deal of excited chatter about this, until someone pointed out that 'farewell knick-knacks' weren't really a thing. Probably there was a boring moral question as well, but the real clincher, Misha argued, was that a half-dug hole on an out-of-the-way rock, even if it had briefly been a celebrated hole seventy years ago, wasn't going to be able to compete with the galaxy's more glamorous suicide hotspots. Nobody was likely to jump down a mineshaft when they could vaporise themselves crashing a rented starship into the rings of Isis Nine, or burn their faces off diving from the thousand-mile span of the Sapphire Bridge into the magma lakes of Cassiopeia.

Interestingly Isis IX has no rings :)

In general, there are a lot of anomolies betwenn the official novels and the final implementation of the game. It seems like its highly likely that the galaxy was modified between the books being finalised and the game being released. Basically you cant trust in game descriptions or bodies to match the books. In addition there are some glaring errors, such as the location of Tarlak - just down to human data entry errors.
 
Sun and Achenar have that "issue". I think it is because it have discovered and mapped status for any commander. But some game mechanics work not as planned. I don't know anything about Alioth.
 
Michael Brookes states something about the Mars relic I believe in the old ED Fiction Diary 1 about the 10 min mark:

"There’s the alien artifact that was discovered in the solar system, that’s still a mystery, although hopefully start to reveal a little bit more about where that came from in the future. And of course there’s the Thargoids"

Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O6z5OK8J5pg&feature=youtu.be


To me, that has always identified the Relic was separate from the Thargoids (likely Guardians) but effectively locked behind a narrative wall.

If the Relic and importantly Sol are or were linked to Raxxla that narrative wall could have already been unlocked (when Guardian content was inserted), or changed (after Guardians were found way too quickly / likely resulting in a lot of narrative either being canned or still in game to be stumbled over) or it is still locked...

Who knows... but my point is MB statement identifies the relic is an important element to the ED narrative (no matter what it is). Its not just lore.

Therefore something is of import within Sol. Now or in the coming narrative...

Mm, interesting. Hadn’t seen that. It isn’t like MB to let something slip, even inadvertently!
 
Just throwing something out there... Are we adament it's in Sol? It just seems odd to me that they would be something clearly so huge and of such importance to the community in such a common, well travelled, well searched area. Look at the lengths FD went to in order to hide The Zurara from the Formidine rift mystery...

Secondly, when there was an interview mentioned earlier and someone from ED said you would need to be Elite to find it... What elite are we talking? Combat or Explorer? I doubt trade Elite woud matter.
 
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Mm, interesting. Hadn’t seen that. It isn’t like MB to let something slip, even inadvertently!

Just watched this video too...

Well, I have to say I never knew the Thargoids were all female, so I wonder if (or where) there are males of the species?

I also wonder if his comment about AI escaping into deep space has been implemented? Raxxla perhaps? Or Guardian AI?

Fly Dangerously,
Ra.
 
FD “coding errors” for Sol

1) in Sol’s main asteroid belt between Mars & Jupiter no clusters are directly selectable and are not shown as in every other asteroid belt in-game. The belt is shown as an annulus split into 32 equal sectors, but this is the only system in-game to date with this depiction of an asteroid belt.

Just to update on one point, the segmented representation of the asteroid belt is not unique to sol (I think that's what you mean?). It occurs quite commonly in other systems as well, in the nearby fusang for example.
 
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Just to update on one point, the segmented representation of the asteroid belt is not unique to sol (I think that's what you mean?). It occurs quite commonly in other systems as well, in the nearby fusang for example.

Ah, thanks. I hadn’t spotted it before, but then I guess I only very rarely use orrery view! It hadn’t shown in other systems where I’d used it. I’ve removed that point from my theory post:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-8911441
 
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Just watched this video too...

Well, I have to say I never knew the Thargoids were all female, so I wonder if (or where) there are males of the species?

I also wonder if his comment about AI escaping into deep space has been implemented? Raxxla perhaps? Or Guardian AI?

Fly Dangerously,
Ra.

Parthogenesis? Or perhaps that’s why goids are keen on capturing escape capsules...a fate worse than death!

I think the comment about AI escaping was specifically about human-developed AI, and we can expect it to be hostile when we encounter it. I did wonder if this was implied in one of the abandoned base logs -the one where a body comes back to life. Guardian AI should be out there somewhere; my suspicion is they are behind the Pilot’s Federation (due to the PF use of hexagonal theme akin to Guardian glyphs, see the nav panel for example).
 
Ah, thanks. I hadn’t spotted it before, but then I guess I only very rarely use orrery view! It hadn’t shown in other systems where I’d used it. I’ve removed that point from my theory post:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-8911441

There's definitely something not right with sol though which is odd given its hand crafted and arguably the one system they would want to get right. I'm left thinking it's working as intended, which does make it strange.

I spent a couple of hours yesterday mooching and honking around the belt zone especially the area where the cluster appears, alas no green. I got bored and went back to trying to get into witch's reach. Oddly there's a couple of systems nearby called haghole and frog, if only I could find puppy dog tails I'd be all set.
 
There's definitely something not right with sol though which is odd given its hand crafted and arguably the one system they would want to get right. I'm left thinking it's working as intended, which does make it strange.

I spent a couple of hours yesterday mooching and honking around the belt zone especially the area where the cluster appears, alas no green. I got bored and went back to trying to get into witch's reach. Oddly there's a couple of systems nearby called haghole and frog, if only I could find puppy dog tails I'd be all set.

I'm always messing with game mechanics, the things you would normally do... was trying to fly in to Sol yesterday or see if anything unusual happened as I couldn't scan it, the day before I tried jumping to a system whilst in the jet cone of a neutron star... thought trying to jump whilst operating beyond safety limits might cause a miss-jump, it didn't ;-)

I'm struggling to find the asteroid clusters in Sol, never been a great explorer (my last of the 3 Elite ratings!) - any tips?
 
There's definitely something not right with sol though which is odd given its hand crafted and arguably the one system they would want to get right. I'm left thinking it's working as intended, which does make it strange.

I spent a couple of hours yesterday mooching and honking around the belt zone especially the area where the cluster appears, alas no green. I got bored and went back to trying to get into witch's reach. Oddly there's a couple of systems nearby called haghole and frog, if only I could find puppy dog tails I'd be all set.

The green glow hunt is extremely frustrating & boring; typical FD RNG!
Edit: it’s partly why I think there is definitely something there! If it was a bug or graphics Artefact I think it would occur more frequently!!
But then I spent a long time chasing after the anomalies in the system map of various stars with Han_Zen who first reported them on the thread!
 
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I'm always messing with game mechanics, the things you would normally do... was trying to fly in to Sol yesterday or see if anything unusual happened as I couldn't scan it, the day before I tried jumping to a system whilst in the jet cone of a neutron star... thought trying to jump whilst operating beyond safety limits might cause a miss-jump, it didn't ;-)

I'm struggling to find the asteroid clusters in Sol, never been a great explorer (my last of the 3 Elite ratings!) - any tips?

Fly (fairly) slowly around the belt, say at 1327 ls from Sol which is the middle of the belt. If you select Jupiter you can see its orbit line in SC, then deselect it and fly keeping level with that orbit line and the correct distance from Sol. Asteroid cluster symbol will show up in the left holographic display on the cockpit hud. But they don’t last long! If you want you can occasionally slow down and check your position in the sysmap orrery view. You’ll see it jump 15 sectors when near an “asteroid cluster”; but there are no asteroids there, even if you drop down into normal space!
 
Except when you mistake the Night vision for the Green glow as I did.

A few seconds of excitement ensued...

No problem! I’m the one who only managed to capture four or five videos of the green glow in a month’s searching!
I did encounter one good example so in my excitement set video recording going then did a capture of the last 5 minutes video, only to find nothing showing on the video recording (too late to get the glow) & the last 5 minutes capture only started when I’d started to video recording so clearly it reset the video buffer! You live and learn! 😁

Edit: but I keep noticing that “detected new signal source” keeps cropping up on the info panel when I’m in the right area. If you drop into normal space that seems to be usually when a SAR ship appears. I wonder if this is another clue and we have to honk within a short time/near distance of that signal detection to get the glow instancing??
 
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