The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Rochester]

Well we’ll we’ll M Brookes has set up a blog about John Milton.

Might be interesting towards understanding his interpretation, incase it highlights any particular passages.

Paradise Lost (AI Illustrated Edition)

A blog exploring Paradise Lost by John Milton and applying AI generated art to a digitised version. Books, reading, understanding, and some historical

paradiselostaiedition.blogspot.com

It’s reminded me that I need to get hold of this too: Paradise Lost and the Cosmological Revolution.

Amazon.co.uk

 

[simulacrae]

Well we’ll we’ll M Brookes has set up a blog about John Milton.

Might be interesting towards understanding his interpretation, incase it highlights any particular passages.

Paradise Lost (AI Illustrated Edition)

A blog exploring Paradise Lost by John Milton and applying AI generated art to a digitised version. Books, reading, understanding, and some historical

paradiselostaiedition.blogspot.com

I am reminded of the “History of the world through Student Bloopers” … or something like that …. Where it said : “Milton wrote Paradise Lost … then his Wife died, and he wrote Paradise Regained”

 

[Rochester]

Yes (ha) how true, my point entirely.

There is a reference to a parallel prose edition, that I’ve noticed a few times, each to their own but that edition has some negative reviews, like many parallel interpretations, give me the original text any day I’ll happily read 17th century text, it can be rather fruity.

It’s interesting because our interpretations of one text will differ to that of another person’s. For instance I’d not read Milton nor Sidney since school, and my interpretation used to be somewhat different; but never until now had I appreciated them more through the context of sci-fi and astronomy, so already my perspective to those has altered after playing this game, getting me to re-read them with fresh perspective, how cool. Eyes to see.

They take on additional meaning. But I could just be reading into it (ha)….

Point being our perspectives could be flawed, or inflated. My theories are limited by my bias and experience, it’s good to look for checks and balances to try and think outside ones own box and try and see the subject from another’s perspective, as it may be focused upon a certain aspect you’d not considered.

This has also reminded me to grab this edition: Paradise Lost and the Cosmological Revolution.
Amazon.co.uk

 

[Ataxia]

We know Soontill is in game but not as expected.

We know Tionsila also has a graveyard thats not findable....

Both have a connection with Raxxla and the Zurara.

Perhaps old fashion investogating might find a map of connections.

Like what about the pirate treasure that was harder to find the Raxxla.

As I'm on console my investigation is limited (no real time journal file) I am looking at the idea that follows a few before me.


Raxxla lile the beacons has a time it is findable (where as the beacon is a time the message repeats.) TDW (fake) may have some ligitimacy with regards to TDW (real) but there are a few otger factions with a much older history in game that only exist in one system amd havr not seemed to lose any... control but always a low influence faction.

I had a few tagged that I was looking at and will grap the list when I have a chance but I believe one was in Lawd 26.

Food for thought

 

[simulacrae]

Yes (ha) how true, my point entirely.

There is a reference to a parallel prose edition, that I’ve noticed a few times, each to their own but that edition has some negative reviews on line and is like many parallel interpretations, somewhat inaccurate, give me the original text any day I’ll happily read 17th century text, it can be rather fruity.

It’s interesting because our interpretations of one text will differ to that of another person’s. For instance I’d not read Milton nor Sidney since school, and my interpretation used to be somewhat different; but never until now had I appreciated them more through the context of sci-fi and astronomy, so already my perspective to those has altered after playing this game, getting me to re-read them with fresh perspective, how cool. Dyes to see.

They take on additional meaning. But I could just be reading into it (ha)….

Point being our perspectives could be flawed, or inflated. My theories are limited by my bias and experience, it’s good to look for checks and balances to try and think outside ones own box and try and see the subject from another’s perspective, as it may be focused upon a certain aspect you’d not considered.

Ya i wasnt going for any deeper meaning … it just jogged loose a memory. But to be honest half the fun of this thread for me has been digging into things like Phillip Sidney (whom id never even heard of prior) or getting a better understanding of myths i read as a child in Bullfinch or Edith Hamilton… Its the reason I like this thread … someone will come along with something intriguing and we will all pull at it from our various perspectives…

 

[CmdrKafka]

When I looked at my ship parameters I'd lost the supercharge, that never happens with any other NS boost, it lasts until an fsd jump, you can even log out of the game & ii's still supercharged!

Can you reproduce this? Is it a bug or a feature preventing you from jumping somewhere perhaps. I’ve long suspected there are certain systems that were meant to be unreachable but fsd boosts/supercharge and fleet carriers may now give access. Or fdev maybe has added some workarounds to prevent it (like losing your supercharge)

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Ya i wasnt going for any deeper meaning … it just jogged loose a memory. But to be honest half the fun of this thread for me has been digging into things like Phillip Sidney (whom id never even heard of prior) or getting a better understanding of myths i read as a child in Bullfinch or Edith Hamilton… Its the reason I like this thread … someone will come along with something intriguing and we will all pull at it from our various perspectives…

Yup.
After the initial speculation about Astrophel I read Sidney...saw strong reference to Stella’s two black eyes (the iris colour, not domestic abuse!) and spent many hours searching for and diving into double Black Holes. That didnt get me anywhere either!

Edit: and this is part of the problem - there are few firm clues to follow for the Raxxla puzzle. FD have used so many references from all sorts of mythology and literature and science in system names/descriptions etc that anything (or nothing) could be significant. So I’m very sceptical about hypotheses inferring too much into mythologies.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Can you reproduce this? Is it a bug or a feature preventing you from jumping somewhere perhaps. I’ve long suspected there are certain systems that were meant to be unreachable but fsd boosts/supercharge and fleet carriers may now give access. Or fdev maybe has added some workarounds to prevent it (like losing your supercharge)

Reproduce what? Having mapped the system bodies I cant undo that! Try the system yourself, the scientific method is based on the independent testing of published results. Its not far from Sol.

I have probably visited the system before, which could explain the bodies not showing up in the journal file on system entry. But then Pyroboros’ search method failing without crashing the game, as it does everywhere else, makes me think this could be a hand-crafted system with some special rules built into it. Together with the “clues” that could suggest BH and/or NS that causes me to seriously ponder! Of course I may be wrong, but it happened as I reported.

The npc following me into a BH is quite odd too! Over the last two weeks (since I started my comet hunt) Ive been noticing quite a few npc following me into comets positions, and exiting them before I got there. Has something changed in-game with recent uodates? Have I somehow triggered some new behaviour?

I’m now back in Shinrarta & sat in my explorer Phantom. Think I’m going to mooch around & try something else...

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

We know Soontill is in game but not as expected.

We know Tionsila also has a graveyard thats not findable....

Both have a connection with Raxxla and the Zurara.

Perhaps old fashion investogating might find a map of connections.

Like what about the pirate treasure that was harder to find the Raxxla.

As I'm on console my investigation is limited (no real time journal file) I am looking at the idea that follows a few before me.


Raxxla lile the beacons has a time it is findable (where as the beacon is a time the message repeats.) TDW (fake) may have some ligitimacy with regards to TDW (real) but there are a few otger factions with a much older history in game that only exist in one system amd havr not seemed to lose any... control but always a low influence faction.

I had a few tagged that I was looking at and will grap the list when I have a chance but I believe one was in Lawd 26.

Food for thought

No, I disagree. You are conflating several independent puzzles. Tionisla, Soontill and Raxxla are unrelated puzzles. Have you read the Elite Dangerous books? There are half a dozen books which FD promoted at the outset of the game to provide extended lore and greater depth to the game for players (many would argue the only depth to the game, but make your own mind up about that). Some bits of those books were partly implemented in-game.

Soontill is a storyline in “And Here The Wheel”. Tionisla and Zurara and Dynasty are storyline topics in Drew Wagars “Reclamation” & “Premonition”. Raxxla does not appear anywhere in any of the books! (Well, there’s a throw-away mention of the name but no relevant information in AHTW). Raxxla crops up in Premonition IIRC, but is not relevant to it. The book authors were told by FD that Raxxla was off-limits to them and reserved for FD alone. We are still trying to discover what FD have put about Raxxla in-game. As far as we can see the only book that connects to Raxxla is Robert Holdstock’s original “The Dark Wheel” novella which was written for the original 1984 version of Elite, & is available online here: http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/dkwheel.htm

Elite Dangerous is the first time that Raxxla has been implemented in any of the Elite games. We do not know how the ED implementation of Raxxla corresponds to Holdstock’s concept, but many of us think it unlikely that there is any strong resemblance. That it will be a nice easter egg tribute to Holdstock, but nothing more.

There is a totally separate “Oolite” game which was written as a tribute to Elite, and Drew Wagar wrote half a dozen books related to that game; but they are totally fan fiction and not related to ED in any way so dont get confused betwen them (they are good reads though, and free).

You said you are currently travelling out to Zurara. Be sure to visit the Dynasty Plot surface bases in the region (see the Canonn website for locations). They are an essential part of the discovery of that Plot, and reading the beacons gives you several million credits each time. IIRC one was hidden part way down a steep cliff, but can be accessed; the gravity is low so if your SRV slips you should survive & call your ship down to escape. Or maybe you could do the investigation in foot in Odyssey? that could be cool.

edit: after you scan a beacon & get each Intel report in your transaction tab take a screenshot for proof in the event of a support ticket. You only get the payment when you return to a station and turn it in. There's a handy station in Heart & Soul Neb. For some reason one disappeared from my ship so I never got the payment. Was miffed!!

 

[Zeeman]

Anyone got a cheat sheet for a 1 minute "Where we're at now"? Seems like I am seeing a lot of references to stuff that I have no idea why they are being referred to.
The joys of building a house and being out of the loop since the COVOIDS...

Z...

 

[Rochester]

Anyone got a cheat sheet for a 1 minute "Where we're at now"? Seems like I am seeing a lot of references to stuff that I have no idea why they are being referred to.
The joys of building a house and being out of the loop since the COVOIDS...

Z...

Look to page 1 of this thread, it’s by far the best index of the thread.

This is an open and theoretical investigation, utilising many and various methods both scientific and creative, against few, scant and erroneous scraps of evidence, of which little is truly known.

A healthy sense of humour and irony is essential as well as nice warm towel.

Source: https://youtu.be/WSsR419HBpQ

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Look to page 1 of this thread, it’s by far the best index of the thread.

This is an open and theoretical investigation, utilising many and various methods both scientific and creative, against few, scant and erroneous scraps of evidence, of which little is truly known.

A healthy sense of humour and irony is essential as well as nice warm towel.

Source: https://youtu.be/WSsR419HBpQ

With a towel and a Lavian brandy you’re a cool frood!

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Anyone got a cheat sheet for a 1 minute "Where we're at now"? Seems like I am seeing a lot of references to stuff that I have no idea why they are being referred to.
The joys of building a house and being out of the loop since the COVOIDS...

Z...

We are in-game with 400 billion star systems. Possibly includes some rogue planets, definitely lots of comets which exist as point sources of mass but are not visually implemented. Something is in-game and it may be called Raxxla (or it may not).

There is an in-game Codex which may or may not be truthful, and purports to say something about Raxxla and an in-game faction called The Dark Wheel. The Dark Wheel: may, or may not, have a hidden space station; they may, or may not, exist; and may, or may not, be charlatans and liars. There also may, or may not, be a faction who are the Real Dark Wheel.

All we know about Raxxla (everything else is supposition!):

(MB) “It’s in the Milky Way” and “you have to make some of it a tiny little bit obvious so people know what they’re doing”​

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Q: founder's world name?...Shinrarta Dezhra... I'm a tiny little bit disappointed they didn't call it Raxxla - A: (MB) “Raxxla is something different”​

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(MB) “FD did look at a story involving Raxxla, but felt that was a story that should be played out in game rather than as a novel”​

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(MB) “It’s something in the game world (not text) and very hard to find”​

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(MB) “It’s not a random thing”​

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(MB) “Anyone can find it, and more than once”​

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(Allen Stroud) “it is a topic within the Alien lore book” that we have no insight into​

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(DB) “You don’t know what it is”​

MB said by Ascorbius to have said at a closed Q&A at Lavecon “Raxxla system had been entered but Raxxla not found”

There are lots of hypotheses about Raxxla. Many have been tested and failed.

So pick/invent one and go look!

 

[Dox Paradox]

A thought : "burning jewel" could refer to a colour rather than something literally burning.
Thought about that reading about the Flame Nebula. It is Zeta Orionis (Alnitak, blue supergiant) that gives its colour (burning red) to the nebula gases, thanks to its intense ultraviolet emission, by ionizing them.
Now, it is only one example of colouring, could be another object. The burning jewel could be an illuminated formation of some sort (like gases).
For the "mother" part, I don't believe in BH. For me "mother" refers to something "to come", or to something that has potential to give birth.
BH have not this potential, they are deceased mothers, already banged away their potential when they collapsed.
The mother of ALL galaxies has to be cloud gases in my current and instable opinion, where stars are formed and for some of them later collapse into super massive BH ejecting in the process unfathomable quantity of materials.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

@Ataxia

EDDiscovery has just had an update. Discovery Observer - Find interesting bodies out there in the cosmos. 60+ built in searches for things like close binaries, planets within rings, etc. So sounds like it will replace EDObservatory.

 

[Dox Paradox]

Has sound analysis of those exobiology specimen that seem to emit sound ever proven useful?
Anemone Prasinum "speaks"..

 

[Rochester]

Pattern in anomaly spectrogram?

Dusting off my forum account to do some tinfoil hat posting. Sorry if something like this has already been posted, had a quick look and didn't find anything. I was analysing the spectrogram of the FSS sound from the Stargoid anomaly. After amplifying the audio and filtering out the noise, I...

forums.frontier.co.uk

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

@Pyroboros @Adel
the method of searching a system for bodies doesnt work if there is no nav beacon or if youve already fss scanned the system. Any ideas how to work around this?
I want to retry some things in many systems Ive already visited.....

 

[simulacrae]

Ya i was just wondering if this method could be used to look for the Tionisla Orbital Graveyard…

And of course the location of the dark wheel station…. What was the clue .. seventh moon?

Source: https://youtu.be/g0wUHZzrmAY

 

[Rochester]

Yes it was sort of obvious earlier on there is a signal there, nice to see more openness about such things, some in Canon are working on it, others too, I only wish I had the time to undertake stuff like this myself. Too much like RL work in some respects.

I’m sure something will resolve very shortly.

Pattern in anomaly spectrogram?

Dusting off my forum account to do some tinfoil hat posting. Sorry if something like this has already been posted, had a quick look and didn't find anything. I was analysing the spectrogram of the FSS sound from the Stargoid anomaly. After amplifying the audio and filtering out the noise, I...

forums.frontier.co.uk