The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Comandante]

1491 pages on this topic? Wow. Don't waste your time until Raxxla gets added to the game and it's not going to be added until FDevs get some content ready

TBH, your sig. says x6 Elite V - in which case, I believe (with no foundation) that you actually have more chance than most of finding Raxxla than anyone else without such credentials.

Considering the 'effort' - which some would assume to be minimal - of (for example) obtaining a G5 suit, I highly doubt any rogues such as myself with no Elite V rankings - would be able to find it. 'We' tried in the early days but after almost 10 years I have to admit it's worn thin. Can't give an exact date, but I reckon I gave up sometime around 4 years ago.

I come here mainly in the hope of finding news on the subject.

My ultimate view is that this cannot be found through intelligence or logic - that you need to be the 'max pointer', the creme de-la creme of Elite V top-notch. Otherwise, forget it.

Prove me wrong. PLEASE prove me wrong!

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

My ultimate view is that this cannot be found through intelligence or logic - that you need to be the 'max pointer', the creme de-la creme of Elite V top-notch. Otherwise, forget it.

Of course it can. People were unwilling to even entertain that Elite Classic could be part of the lore. NEWSFLASH: Lakon Spaceways per codex is from Earth. Lavian Brandy is made in oak barrels from Earth. They simply excluded it from the map because it couldn't be rendered at the time and used a lore excuse. The problem largely is that people either through lack of confidence and fear of failure won't go looking or they believe people who loudly proclaim nothing prior is remotely reliable. Sure systems have been obscured by name changes over the centuries and especially once we got Universal Cartographics - but planets, stations, and ports names largely didn't change.

Present iteration is known as Lakon Spaceways Type-6 Transporter

The other problem is there is a absolute ton of propaganda in the lore and CMDRs seem to think this is a normal game where everything is taken at face value. No, you have read descriptions everywhere and go look for yourself and make up your mind as to what is real and what is misdirection. The problem is this is not a normal video game. The lore is weaponized against CMDRs. There are a lot of dubious characters and groups you should be highly suspicious of whatever they say. Salomé was not kidding about trust no one. The other thing is like the gazetteer and journals in Frontier and First Encounters both use the Federal naming scheme as well as Imperial. Then everything changed because of Universal Cartographics. A Raxxla hunter must be a detective and use clues from the past to piece together the present. This is why Church of the Path is in the Shibboleth system.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

We know the location of the first Coriolis and who designed it (Vetitice). Veliaze is not just a rumor (go to Zelada). Oltiqu has a glorious history of the interplay between the Federation and a group of rebels (you've probably been there if you've been through the Alliance territory). If you haven't, search GalMap for Hope. Jones Colony, Essafa was ultimately found.

There are a great many reasons to have hope.

 

[Dox Paradox]

Anyway, we don't "waste more time" looking for Raxxla or TDW as the players farming useless credits or kills, eh? =]

 

[Dox Paradox]

ton of propaganda in the lore

And in-game also as we see now with the conflict between the Fed corpo rats and the filthy Empire senate.
In this case it is nearly certain the Empire was framed so the Fed could get away with a political murder, the implication of which we will learn about later.
The unbalanced rewards to draw player to one side or the other is part of the narrative, but the players largely ignore that and simply follow their short-term, near-sighted interest.
As Fdev stated "everyone is roleplaying, even unknowingly"
Maybe we don't get Raxxla or TDW because we don't deserve it, as a player base. Too busy with animal instincts, amassing credits like ants and grain, killing each other & shooting at aliens on sight (fun to see people recriminating against Fdev for the Thargoid war, when humanity started this war through player actions: again, privileging short term benefits, meta-alloys and boasting about killing aliens.

 

[Comandante]

We know the location of the first Coriolis and who designed it (Vetitice). Veliaze is not just a rumor (go to Zelada). Oltiqu has a glorious history of the interplay between the Federation and a group of rebels (you've probably been there if you've been through the Alliance territory). If you haven't, search GalMap for Hope. Jones Colony, Essafa was ultimately found.

There are a great many reasons to have hope.

And that is why I keep coming here - because you folks are awesome. It's just my own personal journey stopped for this.

Don't get me wrong - perhaps Raxxla is available to 'anyone' - I hope it is. Yet there's another cynical side to me that thinks that it's locked behind 'progress'. Until Raxxla is found, none of us will truly know. To be honest, this is one of the last places I come for my daily tinfoil!

Keep up the fantastic work, CMDRs! (Not like you need me to say it!) All of your efforts I believe are testament to what makes Elite: Dangerous 'Elite'.

 

[simulacrae]

. A Raxxla hunter must be a detective and use clues from the past to piece together the present. This is why Church of the Path is in the Shibboleth system.

Was fun looking at that- I think Maarg is the Shibboleth. Marg in Hindi is way or road .. Path. Also Marg could be short for Margaret / Margarite …. Pearl

So disciples of Maarg could be disciples of the Path or Disciples of the Pearl…. Oisr…. Saramandaras Pearls…. Raxxla!

 

[Dox Paradox]

Do you know if extensive research of the tourist's beacons has been conducted?
I wonder if some pieces of information could surface on these logs. Events, places, persons...

 

[Rochester]

Was fun looking at that- I think Maarg is the Shibboleth. Marg in Hindi is way or road .. Path. Also Marg could be short for Margaret / Margarite …. Pearl

So disciples of Maarg could be disciples of the Path or Disciples of the Pearl…. Oisr…. Saramandaras Pearls…. Raxxla!

But where does the path originate, one needs more than 1 sign post in space to establish a route! Any other systems attributed here?

Currently working up enough effort to plot/map all stations attributed to the names Arcadia / Delphi, not that many relatively, shouldn’t take long (once I get going), likely irrelevant but might be fun!

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Do you know if extensive research of the tourist's beacons has been conducted?
I wonder if some pieces of information could surface on these logs. Events, places, persons...

See here. Cant remember who produced it but it’s very useful

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eu30UyjpQrWexAglwD1Ax_GaDz4d7l8KD76kSzX4DEk/htmlview#

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Do you know if extensive research of the tourist's beacons has been conducted?
I wonder if some pieces of information could surface on these logs. Events, places, persons...

There has but there is a twist like with GalNet - player generated lore. That said Antares Incident, Starship One, and several other players generated GalNets got us to our current understanding of events. I also would not rule out FDev employees being some of the CMDRs responsible for some of the beacons.

Note: Not mine. Compiled by others.

Elite Dangerous Tourist Beacons

docs.google.com

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Well, Im getting really frustrated and annoyed with this game!
Reread AHTW on the hypothesis that TDW may have taken over the CIEP orbis station...
BUT
LTT 2771 is supposed to have the Smuggler’s Junction pirate asteroid base, but not an asteroid in sight in that system in-game!! Also planet 1 is Tarlak,
But Tarlak is supposed to be the garbage planet in CD-73 253 where Gunn dumped Robert after stealing the data from the CIEP station. However CD-73 253 in- game has no planet, even though the system description talks about it having the garbage planet!

Ths really puts me off. If FD can’t be bothered to set up correctly and check the systems discussed in their sponsored novels and their own system descriptions then I have no faith in their ability to fulfill either TDW or Raxxla promises!
FD might think these objects are in-game, but such poor quality control makes me doubtful!

If the in-game systems had matched the novel storyline then I was going to suggest that the CIEP fleet might not have originated in Soontill (which is well off the straight-line path from Brohman to their target at Delta Phoenecis) but might have staged from the system with their orbis station. Just follow the straight line path back from those two systems and check all the red dwarf systems for the GG with the station. There are a lot in that region!

Also Robert was supposed to be unconscious for a day or so after the CIEP station escapade, plus an unknown duration of time before Gunn dumped him on the garbage planet. However it took her 7 days to make the 19 jumps for the 119 ly trip from Epsilon Eridani to Vequess. So her ship jump range was around 6.5 ly and she could only make 2 or 3 jumps in a day, which should define a shell of probability for the CIEP station location from CD-73 253.

 

[Darrack]

Do you know if extensive research of the tourist's beacons has been conducted?
I wonder if some pieces of information could surface on these logs. Events, places, persons...

Im slowly getting through them all, however as i have only been here a couple of years its taking time to catch up.
Seen some wonderful sights though and trying to concentrate on anything remotely referenced to our cause.

O7

 

[simulacrae]

But where does the path originate, one needs more than 1 sign post in space to establish a route! Any other systems attributed here?

Currently working up enough effort to plot/map all stations attributed to the names Arcadia / Delphi, not that many relatively, shouldn’t take long (once I get going), likely irrelevant but might be fun!

Ya i went and looked at the Shibboleth system. It has a planet Haven orbited by a moon called Kyllikki… which is a character from the Kalevala… but not sure how they tie in with Shibboleth. Usually there is some relationship.

Reading a bit about the Kalevala there is the Sampo… which seems to fit the description of world pillar as well as trinket of fortune…

I like the arcadia - delphi mapping idea.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

LTT 2771 is supposed to have the Smuggler’s Junction pirate asteroid base, but not an asteroid in sight in that system in-game!! Also planet 1 is Tarlak,
But Tarlak is supposed to be the garbage planet in CD-73 253 where Gunn dumped Robert after stealing the data from the CIEP station. However CD-73 253 in- game has no planet, even though the system description talks about it having the garbage planet!

You apparently didn't read the Maenead saga involving blatantly making up false locations from First Encounters. Perhaps The Den in HR 7047 is the Smuggler's Den you seek.

Specifically this part of the larger effort to confuse any who dare go down this rabbit hole...

The P and L's are disaffected ecodissidents who had come up with a scam to terraform their new planet using existing geographical locations so as to save money. These guys refer to the landmarks as 'parts' and the whole process as 'Dee-eye-wye'' which we gather is a reference to some an archaic building method. (It is?? Ed)

The rest for appropriate context...

THE HEROES RETURN

J.J.

The normally undemonstrative people of Zeaex yesterday feted Commander Divas Segondli and her crew of Maenad agents when they landed at Newtown Spaceport, Democracy to refit and report their success in retrieving the stolen galactic landmarks.

Their bulletin issued through Zeaex news agencies to the InterG news has been translated from Maenad jargon as follows:

'Having received certain tips from out contacts around and about the Edge and Core, we finally pinned the Peace and Lights down, far into the Uninhabited zone in a new system they have colonised amd named 'Porritt'.

The P and L's are disaffected ecodissidents who had come up with a scam to terraform their new planet using existing geographical locations so as to save money. These guys refer to the landmarks as 'parts' and the whole process as 'Dee-eye-wye'' which we gather is a reference to some an archaic building method. (It is?? Ed)

However, when we got to monitoring distance we found that the group had already split up into factions and were arguing ferociously over how to store the parts (and which were politically kosher and where to put them on the planet and who got to run the Old Rock Cafe etc. etc.) After making contact, diffusing their hostility and engaging in several long, tedious negotiations we wore down the various groups and succeeded in persuading them to return the parts in exchange for immunity to prosecution.

This process now being complete we hereby appeal to our various clients to stump up our fee as per agreement.

Tomorrow celebrations are planned throughout most of the Frontier systems and it is thought that Maenad Central on Wheelhead (Essfafa) are preparing a hero's welcome for their triumphant team.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Ya i went and looked at the Shibboleth system. It has a planet Haven orbited by a moon called Kyllikki… which is a character from the Kalevala… but not sure how they tie in with Shibboleth. Usually there is some relationship.

Shibboleth definition...



shibboleth

noun

shib·bo·leth ˈshi-bə-ləth

also -ˌleth

Synonyms of shibboleth

1

a

: a word or saying used by adherents of a party, sect, or belief and usually regarded by others as empty of real meaning

the old shibboleths come rolling off their lips—

Joseph Epstein

b

: a widely held belief

today this book publishing shibboleth is a myth—

L. A. Wood

c

: truism, platitude

some truth in the shibboleth that crime does not pay—

Lee Rogow

2

a

: a use of language regarded as distinctive of a particular group

accent was … a shibboleth of social class—

Vivian Ducat

b

: a custom or usage regarded as distinguishing one group from others

for most of the well-to-do in the town, dinner was a shibboleth, its hour dividing mankind—

Osbert Sitwell

Definition of SHIBBOLETH

a word or saying used by adherents of a party, sect, or belief and usually regarded by others as empty of real meaning; a widely held belief; truism, platitude… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Dox Paradox]

Well, Im getting really frustrated and annoyed with this game!
Reread AHTW on the hypothesis that TDW may have taken over the CIEP orbis station...
BUT
LTT 2771 is supposed to have the Smuggler’s Junction pirate asteroid base, but not an asteroid in sight in that system in-game!! Also planet 1 is Tarlak,
But Tarlak is supposed to be the garbage planet in CD-73 253 where Gunn dumped Robert after stealing the data from the CIEP station. However CD-73 253 in- game has no planet, even though the system description talks about it having the garbage planet!

Ths really puts me off. If FD can’t be bothered to set up correctly and check the systems discussed in their sponsored novels and their own system descriptions then I have no faith in their ability to fulfill either TDW or Raxxla promises!
FD might think these objects are in-game, but such poor quality control makes me doubtful!

If the in-game systems had matched the novel storyline then I was going to suggest that the CIEP fleet might not have originated in Soontill (which is well off the straight-line path from Brohman to their target at Delta Phoenecis) but might have staged from the system with their orbis station. Just follow the straight line path back from those two systems and check all the red dwarf systems for the GG with the station. There are a lot in that region!

Also Robert was supposed to be unconscious for a day or so after the CIEP station escapade, plus an unknown duration of time before Gunn dumped him on the garbage planet. However it took her 7 days to make the 19 jumps for the 119 ly trip from Epsilon Eridani to Vequess. So her ship jump range was around 6.5 ly and she could only make 2 or 3 jumps in a day, which should define a shell of probability for the CIEP station location from CD-73 253.

Are these books supposed to be canon?
They might give ideas and perspectives but my conviction is that Dangerous is self-contained.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Everything got buried via Universal Cartographics. While promoted as a means to make exploration easier, it was to bury the past as efficiently as possible.
---
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
-George Orwell

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Well, I no longer have absolutely any idea of what is supposed to be canon!
But when the in-game system map is missing the planet which the system description is all about then I have lost faith!
The game was supposed to be scientifically accurate, but the cool red & brown dwarfs should be dull red fading to black, not purple. So I think canonicity has gone out the window!

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Are these books supposed to be canon?
They might give ideas and perspectives but my conviction is that Dangerous is self-contained.

Then where do you get Raxxla. You kind of need Holdstock and all the books even prior to the first game to even have a basis for the myth. "And Here the Wheel" had a Y-class dwarf in Soontill. There is no such body. Also, I would say destroying Soontill 1 might be a tiny bit difficult given the insane atmosphere pressure, heat, etc. Yes, the weapon was like a Star Wars Superlaser but pretty sure the beam wouldn't survive interaction with the atmosphere especially with silicates and iron being the dominant components. It would be like aiming the Death Star at a giant planet sized mirror or a giant diffraction device.

You'd essentially nullify the beam's destructive force:

Source: https://youtu.be/9D8cPrEAGyc