They are on EDSM, they have been scanned but rarely. One of them even have only one visit logged.
Interestingly they all share the same planet layout, with metal, earth like and ammonia world.
I might make the trip.
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Interestingly they all share the same planet layout, with metal, earth like and ammonia world.
I might make the trip.
XO-1 was discovered in 2006 & is also known as BD+28 2507 and Moldoveanu, see
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See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XO-1. The XO project is a group of amateur and professional astronomers who are using the XO binocular Telescope (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XO_Telescope) on Haleakala in Hawai’i to detect extrasolar planets. Six have been found to date.
I’ve just added this to my FDev quotes thread.
Beyond - Chapter Four - Exploration Reveal18Oct2018 Will Flanagan (CM) with Adam Woods (Exec Producer) & Adam Bourke-Waite (Senior Designer). @1:29:58 AB-W said “that thing we haven’t shown” (Raxxla codex entry) “there’s elements of that that are probably my favourite parts of this”.
Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rtmmmP_waf4&list=PL7glm5rbPHKw5-Bx_eQuz3SX7-dyAiyJh&index=9&pp=iAQB
Always trusted A B-W. I think when he as Senior Designer comments that the implementation of the mystery are one of his favourite things, then the clear implications are:
1) it is in-game
2) it will be a cool find
3) knowledge of the mystery is not limited within FD just to DB and MB.
Which perhaps lends weight to some other things.
Beyond - Chapter Four - Exploration Reveal18Oct2018 Will Flanagan (CM) with Adam Woods (Exec Producer) & Adam Bourke-Waite (Senior Designer). @1:29:58 AB-W said “that thing we haven’t shown” (Raxxla codex entry) “there’s elements of that that are probably my favourite parts of this”.
Always trusted A B-W. I think when he as Senior Designer comments that the implementation of the mystery are one of his favourite things, then the clear implications are:
1) it is in-game
2) it will be a cool find
3) knowledge of the mystery is not limited within FD just to DB and MB.
Which perhaps lends weight to some other things.
How true 07
Equally this is what frustrates me sometimes. The codex is obviously giving us some confirmative information, but where, why, what! There exists so much yet unknown and we’re forced to speculate.
But maybe all along that could just be the point of the codex. Confirmation it’s in game. Having such positive reminders now and again is very encouraging thanks for posting.
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Yes. Apparently DB wasn't too keen (didn’t note the reference for that) on the Holdstock novella, so I suspect this is the replacement for it.
He wont give us too much information on it outside that codex entry...
Yes, do recall Stroud saying as much in this thread as well, that Holdstock was very much a Brookes thang, not Braben’s. I could easily imagine the Codex usurped any historical work undertaken by Brookes albeit repurposed!
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There's another reason I think the symbolism and esoteric angle needs thorough consideration - the very specific groups utilizing snakes for the naming of ships. These are as follows:
A few key reminders, intentionally or not the Raxxla myths have historically involved reptiles. Per Wikipedia: snakes are elongated, limbless, carnivorous reptiles of the suborder Serpentes.
Do we have reptilian references literally anywhere else in the lore? Seemingly, the answer is no. Thargoids are suspected of being insectoidal. Guardians seemingly are somewhat like humans but don't exactly match mammals. Besides, they are possibly extinct.
Further, at least from a mythological perspective, Python was the protector of Delphi before Apollo. However, we do have a Python that may well be protector of Delphi in Elite Dangerous:
Would you look at that - more reptile references. Perhaps the Raxxlan reptilian connection isn't literal but figurative and symbolic. If that is the case, the esoteric and symbolic become infinitely more important. I'd like to add, that in Elite Dangerous, the capitol of the Federation is Olympic Village, Mars. Both, Mars and Apollo were Olympic pantheon deities.
For more info on the Python mythology:
For more info on the symbolism of snakes:
en.wikipedia.org
For more info on Pythia or The Pythoness:
- Lakon Spaceways (one of the oldest ship manufacturers with direct links to Sol). Though, now fully divested from Sol and directly linked to Alioth and the Alliance. Their ships constituted the bulk of the Galactic Navy. Their snake ships include: Asp Mk II, Asp Scout, Asp Explorer, Keelback, Diamondback Scout, and Diamondback Explorer.
- Zorgon Peterson - A thoroughly Independent ship manufacturer based in the Old Worlds/GalCop region. They are also notable for their ships having dubious origins. Their snake ships are: Adder, Fer-de-lance, and Mamba.
- Faulcon Delacy - Based in Reorte though with significant ties to the Sirius Corporation. They also were the premiere manufacturer of the Viper series of police vessels. This is also perhaps The Dark Wheel's preferred ship manufacturer given the Cobra line of vessels. Their snake ships are: Sidewinder Mk I, Viper series, Cobra series, Krait series, Python, Anaconda.
Citation?
A few key reminders, intentionally or not the Raxxla myths have historically involved reptiles. Per Wikipedia: snakes are elongated, limbless, carnivorous reptiles of the suborder Serpentes.
Do we have reptilian references literally anywhere else in the lore? Seemingly, the answer is no. Thargoids are suspected of being insectoidal. Guardians seemingly are somewhat like humans but don't exactly match mammals. Besides, they are possibly extinct.
Further, at least from a mythological perspective, Python was the protector of Delphi before Apollo. However, we do have a Python that may well be protector of Delphi in Elite Dangerous:
Would you look at that - more reptile references. Perhaps the Raxxlan reptilian connection isn't literal but figurative and symbolic. If that is the case, the esoteric and symbolic become infinitely more important. I'd like to add, that in Elite Dangerous, the capitol of the Federation is Olympic Village, Mars. Both, Mars and Apollo were Olympic pantheon deities.
For more info on the Python mythology:
For more info on the symbolism of snakes:
Serpent symbolism - Wikipedia
For more info on Pythia or The Pythoness:
I am citing this just to make the point this comes across as wishful thinking (but why someone would wish it quite frankly leaves me deeply confused). The Dark Wheel and Raxxla both really do not have any basis in the current game without Holdstock. Also, Ian Bell and David Braben are cited in the credits for Elite Dangerous. To my knowledge: neither has made any statements to the effect that The Dark Wheel novella wasn't relevant. If anything, Ian Bell wanted to go much further with those ideas and even had a play and book written (see http://www.elitehomepage.org/musical/index.htm and http://www.elitehomepage.org/musical/book.htm ). Frontier Developments even offers Elite Classic for free on their website ( https://www.frontierstore.net/elite1984.html ). You cannot just dismiss it because it makes you uncomfortable.
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In case it wasn't evident, the current Python flyable by CMDRs is the Boa that has been renamed. The original Python was discontinued.
Devils advocate!
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Post in thread 'I've found Faulcon from Faulcon deLacy.'
As much as conjecture than anything else. I’m simply assuming it was implied that any Holdstock reference was constructed more so by Brookes than Braben, simply speculating.
Plus since Brookes left, and the DW missions were shelved, and there was a significant gap between then and the codex, it’s not outside the realms of possibility that anything already penned - if relevant, could have been totally usurped!? Although I doubt that.
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You found it then! I was going through the beyond vids but hadn't got to that one...
Interesting.... AB-W said “that thing we haven’t shown” (Raxxla codex entry) “there’s elements of that that are probably my favourite parts of this”.... So he's suggesting there was something in that release specifically for Raxxla as I don't think he's referring to the codex entry itself...
Quite a lot in that release in terms of new functionality... I wonder which bits might be used in those elements that were his favourites?
On that note, regarding Allen Stroud response to Jaiotu, there is a Leo Faulcon that is a main character in his book "Where Time Winds Blow". It is about a planet with temporal anomalies. The planet and star are referenced in other books with references to Altuxor and Kamelios. It is even on the map of Galactic Cooperative in Tour of the Universe.
The problem is in locating the damned thing following name changes. I have found Hyperion, Aurora, Tau Ceti, Sol, Sirius, and a number of others. That said, there is no context for how big an area is shown. I suspect it covers quite a large region.
Info on book with Leo Faulcon:
robertholdstock.com
The problem is in locating the damned thing following name changes. I have found Hyperion, Aurora, Tau Ceti, Sol, Sirius, and a number of others. That said, there is no context for how big an area is shown. I suspect it covers quite a large region.
Info on book with Leo Faulcon:
Where Time Winds Blow
Publication Details UK: Faber and Faber, 1981; HB. ISBN: 0571116795 USA: Timescape/Pocket Books, 1982; PB. ISBN: 0671432621 UK: Pan Books, 1982; PB. UK: Gollancz, 1988; PB. ISBN: 0575042796 Buy the…
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I had a rambling go at this a while back…. If it helps…
The Quest To Find Raxxla
A "Permit" fits quite well on the "the key which is also a door" Raxxla mystery... https://forums.frontier.co.uk/posts/9083530/
Thank you. Yet more stuff to look into. FDev have certainly ensured we'll stay occupied looking for Raxxla.I had a rambling go at this a while back…. If it helps…
The Quest To Find Raxxla
A "Permit" fits quite well on the "the key which is also a door" Raxxla mystery... https://forums.frontier.co.uk/posts/9083530/forums.frontier.co.uk
Well i went down the rabbit hole - but it was fun. I tried matching up the map to elite but was unsuccessful. Good luck
CMDR.. we copy. What do you have to report? There, at least to our knowledge, aren't many councils.
Are Sirius, Tau Ceti, Reunion, Kameleos, Lynx III, Phoenix, Agara, & Hyperiona all in game ? They kinda look like a wheel. Just saying.On that note, regarding Allen Stroud response to Jaiotu, there is a Leo Faulcon that is a main character in his book "Where Time Winds Blow". It is about a planet with temporal anomalies. The planet and star are referenced in other books with references to Altuxor and Kamelios. It is even on the map of Galactic Cooperative in Tour of the Universe.
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The problem is in locating the damned thing following name changes. I have found Hyperion, Aurora, Tau Ceti, Sol, Sirius, and a number of others. That said, there is no context for how big an area is shown. I suspect it covers quite a large region.
Info on book with Leo Faulcon:
Where Time Winds Blow
Publication Details UK: Faber and Faber, 1981; HB. ISBN: 0571116795 USA: Timescape/Pocket Books, 1982; PB. ISBN: 0671432621 UK: Pan Books, 1982; PB. UK: Gollancz, 1988; PB. ISBN: 0575042796 Buy the…
Side ramble
Alpha Centauri, PSPF-LF 2, & SPF-LF 1 have always been suspect to me , for various reasons. the later two because of the system descriptions. and the only video on Mr Brabens youtube acount , is a video of an RC cobra flying around.
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More ramble... the journey everyone has to make . I thought it was sag-a , then sol because you have to go 'home' sometime. but now I think its going to jail, at the The Pillar of Fortitude , because your not flying dangerously enough , unless you end up in the slammer. also in spf 1
It is perplexing.
This update essentially saw a big update in exploration: After the initial scan of the system, you will then be able to tune your scanners to find stellar bodies and other phenomena. Not only is this new system a more realistic, satisfying and engaging exploration experience, but now you will be able to make more informed decisions on where to look next, and you will be more rewarded for your time spent exploring.
This essentially boils down to, when exploring you now see everything on the map because the fog of war has been lifted, as to if they implemented anything new regards stellar bodies regarding Raxxla is an unknown but the focus was upon the new mechanism surely?
Before exploration was hit n miss, we might not see everything necessarily, not without some (necessary and applicable!) work, so previously unseen persistent POIs logically would hence become visible, allowing for wider choice?
Of course we still don’t know what it is we’re looking for
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Yes, his remark makes no sense if it was about the Raxxla codex entry, so clearly it’s about Raxxla itself. He also said something just before that remark about some hints being dropped in preceding videos, but that might or might not be to Raxxla, could be the other things. Possibly those reported in the codex discoveries tab.
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Looking at Beyond’s updates for things that might be relevant to improved Raxxla implementation
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I’m pondering:
Interactions with installations & megaships
Planetary visual improvements
Extra engineers
Guardian beacons
Mining gameplay
FSS & surface & composition scanner
Notable Stellar Phenomena
USS
Scenario missions at USS
AX conflict zones
“Improved Lighting Model - lighting adjustments, colour grading, improved fog effects, shadows in fog volumes. This will benefit planetary tech as well as space”
content that was planned for Chapter Four of Beyond but delayed to future updates:
Improved planetary environments for ice planets
Improvements to the variety of sizes and scales used in the scatter rocks system
Improved ambient effects for fog and vapour, planetary phenomena, and volumetric effects
So, speculating...Raxxla might be:
a Guardian AI engineer?
A Guardian beacon/installation/ship
And perhaps hidden in a planetary ring/NSP/USS?
(P.S. “asteroid” means “star-like”)
Given Raxxla has been in-game since gamma I’m plumping for a planetary ring...tried yesterday to see if a Pulse Wave Analyser made it easier to find an asteroid base (it didn't!). On my way back to Saturn to dive the rings once more..the reasoning, “Omphalos” is the hexagonal storm named by New York Times readers, it matches the hexagonal ring in the logo, where the dots could represent the rocks/ice in the ring, it’s the sixth planet of Sol, the three logo arcs are shown at the entrance to all asteroid bases, the central dot and circle are the symbol for Sol but also could be the docking beacon light. And of course the Mars Artefact points out an early alien presence in Sol!
The improved lighting model & fog shadows could make Raxxla in a ring truly (chillingly?) cool
And there were a couple of vids on the new mining gameplay.....
Oh, and I read yesterday that in2009 Saturn’s F ring was seen to be a spiral...and there are spiral structures in some other rings (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rings_of_Saturn)
Now why cant I get into the game....??
Edit2 update notes
“
- The Revenant seeks you...
- Take caution when investigating Thargoid controlled territory at abandoned settlements...
So, Goid-engineered human zombies???
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And let’s ask, what new information did the codex potentially provide, and how can it be relevant to the content patched?
“2296, from the journal of Art Tornqvist, a shipboard mechanic based in the Tau Ceti system. He writes: 'Cora comes home soused and raving with wild stories, a new one every night. She claims she's found a map to some pirate stash, and all I have to do is loan her my ship so we can go dig it up”.
“Much like the ancient myths of Atlantis, El Dorado and the kingdom of Prester John”.
“an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift”.
“children's story Princess Astrophel and Spiralling Stars”
There’s a lot of locational information in there, which we’ve speculated upon already. Maybe that’s intentional, maybe it’s not maybe that’s projection on our part? But that was the first time they linked Raxxla with a ship board mechanic - an engineer!
Then there were new Scenario Missions, I wouldn’t presume these hold Raxxla but what if they held textual references (long stretch) which gave out more environmental storytelling?
“2296, from the journal of Art Tornqvist, a shipboard mechanic based in the Tau Ceti system. He writes: 'Cora comes home soused and raving with wild stories, a new one every night. She claims she's found a map to some pirate stash, and all I have to do is loan her my ship so we can go dig it up”.
“Much like the ancient myths of Atlantis, El Dorado and the kingdom of Prester John”.
“an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift”.
“children's story Princess Astrophel and Spiralling Stars”
There’s a lot of locational information in there, which we’ve speculated upon already. Maybe that’s intentional, maybe it’s not maybe that’s projection on our part? But that was the first time they linked Raxxla with a ship board mechanic - an engineer!
Then there were new Scenario Missions, I wouldn’t presume these hold Raxxla but what if they held textual references (long stretch) which gave out more environmental storytelling?
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