The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Han_Zen]

Still questing!
A major part of my current hypothesis is that “Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars” is an anagram of the clue to Raxxla’s whereabouts. Also, that it is hidden in a planetary ring.
Current anagram Possibilities:

Alien at Dahan three ring

at Dahan three ring i/ii

at Dahan c ring three

Alien ship at Io/Callisto/Dione/Rhea/Ariel

At Rhea/Arial in Sol

At Rhea ring in Sol

Alien ship at Rhea ring Sol

At Lassel ring in Sol - Neptune’sbroadest ring

At Pallene ring arc in Sol,Saturn

At Anthe ring arc in Sol,Saturn

At D/C/A/Ering in Sol, Saturn

At alpha/eta/delta ring in Sol, Uranus

At three A ring in Shinrarta

Dahan 2 & 3 rings.

Grandmort? (No “m” in the anagram!)

The latter from the description of Trinkets of Hidden Fortune mentioning statuettes, which we know are produced there.

Currently in Dahan. This is interesting because it’s the only one of the 8 systems in the game beta bubble (Asellus Primus, Eranin, Dahan, LP98-132, Aulin, LHS 3006, Styx, i Bootis) that has planetary rings and fits the anagram idea. DB said to Drew Wagar at the time of the Beta that Raxxla was in-game, so the beta bubble is a possibility!
Dahan is also of interest from the toast because planet 2 is Hathor. In Stargate scifi series Hathor possessed stealth technology, allowing her to become completely invisible. Also for the ancient Egyptians Hathor was the mother/consort to Horus the Sky, i.e. mother of galaxies? Dahan 2e is named “wanderer”-vagabond! Dahan 2a is named Coltan, an ore of tantalum which is used in fsd drives-whisperer in witchspace?

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Egyptian mythology often has Hathor wearing a crown of a sun between two horns, hence the jewel could be the star. The toast could therefore be said by someone who could simultaneously see Dahan star, Hathor planet and Wanderer moon....possibly in Hathor’s rings, possibly elsewhere in the system.
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I still prefer Sol as the location of Raxxla, and think it is at either Saturn or Neptune. Think the logo is pointing to Saturn-the first planet with a hexagonal storm (named “Omphalos”) at the time. Jupiter and Neptune also have hexagonal storm systems but Jupiter’s wasn't known on game release, it was observed by the Juno probe circa 2019. But Dahan has merit !

I though the quote was that Raxxla was in game from Gamma? Gamma was when the full Galaxy was rolled out.

The eight system beta bubble was for beta 1. In Beta 2, there were a couple of hundred systems. Before the Gamma release, the Galaxy was re-seeded. Most systems changed completely, after this (different number / type of planets, different stations, different populations).

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I though the quote was that Raxxla was in game from Gamma? Gamma was when the full Galaxy was rolled out.

The eight system beta bubble was for beta 1. In Beta 2, there were a couple of hundred systems. Before the Gamma release, the Galaxy was re-seeded. Most systems changed completely, after this (different number / type of planets, different stations, different populations).

I think it’s open to interpretation. Did he mean “it’s in the currently released version”, or “it’s in the version currently under development”, or maybe “it’s in the design for the version planned for release”?

when DB said to DW “It exists, we know where it is and we know why people haven't been able to find it” (from 8th July 2014. David Braben was giving his presentation which was called "My other car's a Cobra Mk3" at the Bafta Games Showcase) the game was in open beta1, so must be in one of those 8 systems? But he might have meant in the gamma under development (Gamma implementation was released 22Nov2014).....

FDev ED-relevant quotes/videos

Since much discussion is generated on the topic of DB said this, or MB said that, etc I posted my compilation of FDev source references on the Quest for Raxxla thread for others to use. It was suggested that it should be in its own thread for everyone to access & I’m happy to oblige. Please feel...

forums.frontier.co.uk

DW also later reported that the phrasing DB used was “Raxxla...? Well - "It exists, we know where it is and we know why people haven't been able to find it...”, but we’ve never had an explanation of those two different phrasings! DW was reporting from memory, though I think he said he’d recorded it the following day. If the two utterances were actually said within the one conversation then both are applicable. “Why people haven’t been able to find it” is then significant. It could mean that:
1) it’s in a version (the beta2 or gamma) that people haven’t yet got access to, or perhaps
2) in a permit locked system & people havent had time to gain the permit yet (think this implies Sol as the nearest permit lock to that beta bubble
3) it’s hidden by some mechanism that is so abstruse that nobody has had a chance of triggering the instance

...there are probably some other possible interpretations, but I’m suffering sleep deprivation in the current UK heat wave. Contributions welcome!


All we can do is explore hypotheses and hope we find it! I still think, from the logo and existence of the Mars Alien Artefact, that it’s likely in Sol, in a ring of Saturn (though possibly Neptune). But that gameplay gets very boring, so I’m taking time out to explore the Dahan possibility...Searching for something but I dont know what it is, where it is, nor how to locate it is pretty boring gameplay anywhere I try. Ive even tried to get back into Star Citizen for some interesting gameplay, but have yet again given up-my PC is clearly vastly underpowered to run that piece of . The other day I managed in 30 minutes to get from the habitation bed into my ship and finally take off, only to get a server disconnect error....

Ive been looking with interest at the latest crop of Starfield vids, but the info on minimum PC requirements suggest that for me may not be playable either. Think Ive got past the point of wanting to splash out a grand on PC upgrades to play a game. Time to put on my grumpy old man t-shirt!

 

[Darrack]

I’m suffering sleep deprivation in the current UK heat wave

Keep it quiet, non Brits will laugh and not believe us (it rains all the time here )

it’s hidden by some mechanism

This is and always will be my view, we can find the point of entry but i think Fdev will control the access, over the years its become too much of a big deal for some muppet 'tuber' being able to hack their way in.

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[Jorki Rasalas]

Rain? be nice to have some! Did have around 20 minutes on SUnday, but my lawn is rapidly browning again. And the water butts are getting low.
30C again already according to my patio thermometer...

 

[Darrack]

Rain? be nice to have some! Did have around 20 minutes on SUnday, but my lawn is rapidly browning again. And the water butts are getting low.
30C again already according to my patio thermometer...

Im not a Sun person, luckily im working from home for a few days but as its festival season i cant really avoid that big burning thing

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[Jorki Rasalas]

In Dahan, been 10kls above & below Hathor, then travelled from Coltan to Wanderer...nothing.

But FSS is showing 5 asteroid clusters yet there is no asteroid belt from EDSM or system map. Thought it must be planetary rings, but Hathor has 1 ring and Dahan 3 has 3 rings...
Odd!!

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Could these be FC? Post lunch siesta...must wake up and check this.

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https://imgur.com/iTYsS2b

Source: https://imgur.com/iTYsS2b



apparently FSS doesnt show planetary rings but there are 5 asteroids showing in fss, but none in-system map (WHY?), 12FC and 2 stations, so I guess that's the 14 Concentrated Signal Sources (Never had a proper explanation of this- what do the asterisk and Exclamation mark symbols actually mean?), so what are the other 2 concentrated signal sources shown at left of frequency scan?

 

[Darrack]

apparently FSS doesnt show planetary rings

Just for this system? Normally the fss does show planetary rings

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[Jorki Rasalas]

Just for this system? Normally the fss does show planetary rings

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ah, been googling-reports that hasnt worked since Odyssey dropped.Out of date bug report?

But since there are 5 showing in DSS and only 4 in-system something's wrong!

 

[Darrack]

ah, been googling-reports that hasnt worked since Odyssey dropped.Out of date bug report?

Must be, im a sucker for ringed planets, just found a cracker out where i am and its normally through the fss that i find them when scanning.

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[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Just for this system? Normally the fss does show planetary rings

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Discovery of rings requires DSS scanner. In addition, if you are running a ship without DSS scanner previous DSS scans of that system are invisible. In essence, the DSS stores memory for any scanned bodies. As you approach a DSS scanned body, your ship will report on any updates. If you run EDDiscovery, I strongly suggest the voicepack add-on for extra details as you explore a system as it can convert your journals to spoken updates.

 

[simulacrae]

The Ark hips would be sub lightspeed. Realistically 0.6 C maximum. They would not have made it trough more than a couple systems, in 9 years.
Rogue planets would be much slower that that. They probably need a hundred years to clear a system.
If Raxxla really moves from system to system, it's a ship with at least supercruise capability.

Ya when i said ark ships i was kind of meaning all the various generation ships of the “missing” as fd calls them… so possibly a little further range . But ya not terribly feasible.

Raxxla as a moving thing feels right to me. While i agree a “moon” probably shouldn't have the velocity to zip around between systems with any speed… maybe its the death star

Just another thought…. All the rubble around the Maelstroms… what if that was the shell of a planet that the maelstrom grew in… before it “hatched”

Also ya with these kind of objects you think comets would be doable now…

 

[Darrack]

Discovery of rings requires DSS scanner. In addition, if you are running a ship without DSS scanner previous DSS scans of that system are invisible. In essence, the DSS stores memory for any scanned bodies. As you approach a DSS scanned body, your ship will report on any updates. If you run EDDiscovery, I strongly suggest the voicepack add-on for extra details as you explore a system as it can convert your journals to spoken updates.

Apology's we must be at cross purposes, i was just trying to put across that if you use the FSS to map a system when you first (shall we say) reveal a planet or gas giant it shows if it has rings in the zoomed in picture of the body.
Yes the DSS is required to scan rings i was just trying to respond to Jorki's question.

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[Jorki Rasalas]

Apology's we must be at cross purposes, i was just trying to put across that if you use the FSS to map a system when you first (shall we say) reveal a planet or gas giant it shows if it has rings in the zoomed in picture of the body.
Yes the DSS is required to scan rings i was just trying to respond to Jorki's question.

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Yep, was going to say I thought the rings were seen in the pic of the planet when you zoom into the fss signal, but don't think they're indicated by the asteroid count in the tuning display. But then there seem to be 5 asteroids in Dahan but nothing showing anywhere in system or in system map.

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If I had any faith left in the FD issue process I’d report it...

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Yep, was going to say I thought the rings were seen in the pic of the planet when you zoom into the fss signal, but don't think they're indicated by the asteroid count in the tuning display. But then there seem to be 5 asteroids in Dahan but nothing showing anywhere in system or in system map.

They definitely appear on the FSS scanners preview image when you lock onto the body. However, I have only ever seen discovered rings messages with DSS scanner. Meanwhile, generic asteroid belts can even be passively scanned if you are just flying around (even if you don't "honk" the system). Notable that discovery of rings and belts pays absolutely nothing. So, even for explorers it is done more for the making sure everything got scanned (the inner completionist).

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Has anyone looked closely at Tourist Beacons?
The TB by Saturn has an unusual (I think) decal that says "P78+E", but the "+" sign has a dot in each quadrant. Did a bit of googling and this seems to be an unusual mathematical symbol meaning both dot product and summation. Dont see how it applies here, but pondering if it's a clue

https://imgur.com/B5A71VA

Source: https://imgur.com/B5A71VA

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nope, just checked the TB at Jupiter & it has the same decal & type number on its side.
just googled and 7 years old report of same number on Non-human relic TB. Might be interesting if anyone has info on TB outside Sol.

 

[TR]

This is the 'Leesti's History' TB. Exactly the same; generic beacon model, looks like

 

[syntaxenabled]

I found this today... Little strange to me but probably nothing. It's a Russian guitar effects pedal released in 2015. It includes a pulsar map. Probably just meaningless graphic design, but it could also be the location of Raxxla if it somehow someway was related or meaningful. Raxxla is not a word in Russian or any other language so its a strange connection. Maybe the company is just a fan of the game.

 

[Darrack]

I found this today... Little strange to me but probably nothing. It's a Russian guitar effects pedal released in 2015. It includes a pulsar map. Probably just meaningless graphic design, but it could also be the location of Raxxla if it somehow someway was related or meaningful. Raxxla is not a word in Russian or any other language so its a strange connection. Maybe the company is just a fan of the game.
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Ive been in the music industry for over 30 years, ive seen a few of these because they made me laugh!
I know the manufacturer but ive never met a representative, however, i know a guy in a well known band who i will be seeing shortly in a muddy field who DOEs know these folks so i will see if i can get some info (that's August though).
Having had conversations backstage with one chap (who does play Elite) we basically dismissed it as a sales gimmick, but ya never know.
Im sure like most other games you would be surprised at some of the well know people that actually play this game, i usually ware my ED T-Shirts backstage to see how many folks give me a salute

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[syntaxenabled]

Ive been in the music industry for over 30 years, ive seen a few of these because they made me laugh!
I know the manufacturer but ive never met a representative, however, i know a guy in a well known band who i will be seeing shortly in a muddy field who DOEs know these folks so i will see if i can get some info (that's August though).
Having had conversations backstage with one chap (who does play Elite) we basically dismissed it as a sales gimmick, but ya never know.
Im sure like most other games you would be surprised at some of the well know people that actually play this game, i usually ware my ED T-Shirts backstage to see how many folks give me a salute

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At least someone knows something about them. I assumed it was just a gimmick, the brand seems to be space themed. I've been feeling like Charlie from Always Sunny with the detective board. Kind of want to buy one for my pedal board just for the meme, even though I'm not really one for chorus.
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[SergMx]

I found this today... Little strange to me but probably nothing. It's a Russian guitar effects pedal released in 2015. It includes a pulsar map. Probably just meaningless graphic design, but it could also be the location of Raxxla if it somehow someway was related or meaningful. Raxxla is not a word in Russian or any other language so its a strange connection. Maybe the company is just a fan of the game.
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Weird. When I searched for this word on the Internet a long time ago, I found it too. But it didn't seem to have any planets and it seemed to me to be an English company.
Although the device was also related to sound.