Sooo...
I was 3 years in the black until taking a break 2 years ago, having played since 2015 on the old DK1 and then CV1 and just about to jump back in. (2.5 years actually)
In that time, have there been any significant developments or leads in the quest to find Raxxla? a simple yes or no will determine if I begin to trawl this page from where i left off...
Thanks Commanders
And in what year was the Codex introduced?
 
And in what year was the Codex introduced?
11 DEC 3304
 
Sooo...
I was 3 years in the black until taking a break 2 years ago, having played since 2015 on the old DK1 and then CV1 and just about to jump back in. (2.5 years actually)
In that time, have there been any significant developments or leads in the quest to find Raxxla? a simple yes or no will determine if I begin to trawl this page from where i left off...
Thanks Commanders

This thread was moved from exploration to lore & roleplay, all but confirming Raxxla doesn't actually exist in game at least in my eyes.
 
That’s always a possibility.

Literally all historical FD statements are affirmations pointing towards Raxxla being in game, more so the inclusion of the Codex. However, all historical statements are still open to interpretation, so at most it a definitive maybe; because ‘in game’ can equate also to narrative content.

There does exist spacial relationships of specifically named systems in game which potentially marry those metaphorical descriptions in the Codex and concentrate upon a specific focal point, but these are at best projections, other parts of the puzzle avoid defining.

One simply needs to ask ‘why’ you quest? For many it facilitates a reason to actually play the game, above the base ‘shoot stuff and grind’ mechanics.
 
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That’s always a possibility.

Literally all historical FD statements are affirmations pointing towards Raxxla being in game, more so the inclusion of the Codex. However, all historical statements are still open to interpretation, so at most it a definitive maybe; because ‘in game’ can equate also to narrative content.

There does exist spacial relationships of specifically named systems in game which potentially marry those metaphorical descriptions in the Codex and concentrate upon a specific focal point, but these are at best projections, other parts of the puzzle avoid defining.

One simply needs to ask ‘why’ you quest? For many it facilitates a reason to actually play the game, above the base ‘shoot stuff and grind’ mechanics.
Well, I know you have a different interpretation, but to me it is clear
DB: Beyond - Chapter Two - Launch Livestream
m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=13m43s&v=-f7Zx7WUwF0
At 13:45, DB said “does Raxxla exist? There’s an interesting one. What a silly question! Of course!....you don’t know what it is though!“

I think this message is clearly DB saying Raxxla is in game, but we don’t know what it is.
I think the latter bit suggests it may not be a planet of any form (rogue or otherwise), contrary to Holdstock’s original, but of course we won’t know what it is until we find it.

Now some have interpreted this clip as DB talking to Ed Lewis saying Ed didnt know what it is. But that misses the point that DB was responding to an off-screen chat question, & was still answering that question although Ed had broken into his response. However the message is the same. Whether Ed knew or didn't know DB clearly said “Raxxla is in-game” (& MB said the same).

I suspect the CM do actually know more about the Raxxla secret than they let on (Ed looked a bit miffed)...why would they reveal the secret? My reason for this belief is in the “Edifying Will with EXO” video where at 31:40 EXO said they were really looking for Raxxla, and Will zipped his mouth then said “you are looking in the right place, you’re looking in an asteroid...” and cut off. He did not say anything like “I don't know anything about Raxxla” which would have been the obvious response for a CM kept in the dark on Raxxla.

However my fear is that FD have hidden it behind an RNG function that we may in all practicability be unable to crack. This was evident in the early game where material gathering etc was too difficult and they had to tone the RNG mechanism down; I suspect they did not do that for Raxxla.

It seems to me very probable that (to prevent file divers) Raxxla is stored on FD servers and will be download to the player’s machine only when a trigger event is tripped. That trip event likely is dropping out at the trigger (“omphalos”) position within 50Km (the instancing distance for comets, which are also invisible-MB’s “you have to make some of it a tiny little bit obvious”). Now dropping out of SC (even at minimum 30km/s speed) at the right point to end up within 50Km of a comet is difficult if you don't know precisely where it is (try practicing at Pareco, where several stations are orbiting a single comet). I suspect with Raxxla there is no obvious sign for the trigger point location (whether or not it is in a planetary/asteroid ring).

It also strikes me that “omphalos” means “navel”, but also “centre” or “focal point”. So my brainwave yesterday (while watching Glastonbury on TV) was that it could be referring to a barycentre.
 
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Now that is interesting.

Memory and time play odd tricks, I always recalled this video as more dismissive! Ironically after some time seeing it and revisiting this I agree that FD do ‘seem’ to confirm it?

My incredulity needs further calming so I need to re-watch this a few times to let it sink in.

Asteroids and ringed belts would be a good location, roids pre-mining updates were rather dull affairs, it would be a perfect location, and would identify the ‘we know why it’s not been found’ assumption, because pre-updates these likely didn’t get much attention.

Interesting. *edit, how much of this statement do we think is just in jest?

Sorry to say Im still sitting on the fence on this particular video, as I do feel Will isn’t confirming anything, and that actually he’s being sarcastic saying yes it’s inside a roid, is it just a joke?

 
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Can there be a planet and asteroids?
I remember a time when there were stations all over the galaxy in asteroids. One question always bothered me, why do we need stations in asteroids? Is it safe?
By the way, I do not know if there are such stations in the galaxy without asteroids?
 
Now that is interesting.

Memory and time play odd tricks, I always recalled this video as more dismissive! Ironically after some time seeing it and revisiting this I agree that FD do confirm it!

My incredulity needs further calming so I need to re-watch this a few times to let it sink in.

Asteroids and ringed belts would be a good location, roids pre-mining updates were rather dull affairs, it would be a perfect location, and would identify the ‘we know why it’s not been found’ assumption, because pre-updates these likely didn’t get much attention.

Interesting.

The three arcs of the logo might suggest an asteroid station, since those three arcs are displayed at the entrance to all such stations, so logically Raxxla might be in an asteroid belt (though admittedly some asteroid statiins are in planetary rings). But asteroid stations only came out in a later release. I suspect a planetary ring is more likely, drop into one and there are thousands of asteroids displayed and planetary rings are much bigger than the (3 to 12) discrete asteroid clusters you find in many systems' "asteroid belt". It could be a main asteroid belt as in Sol, where you can drop out of SC and get an indication of proximity to an asteroid cluster but nothing is shown. The only way you know you’re near it is by using the orrery view (which was strangely delayed...). Such a belt might be called an omphalos I suppose... at a stretch. Maybe we need to go back and further explore Sol’s main belt? I seem to remember when I first investigated that main asteroid belt (around Dec 2021) and got distracted by the “phantom green glow” that there were several such mythical "clusters"...guess it’s possible the trigger is that you have to drop in at all of them, but seem to remember there was a problem/bug with that....



Yesterday reviewed my notes & Condensing everything we know:

“Raxxla has been circulating, in whispers, for centuries...mysterious place, the location of which is a deadly secret....unremarkable moon....Omphalos Rift gateway/tunnel...concealed facts about the mysterious locale in “Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars” ”?

Circulating: orbiting?

Whispers: undiscovered object? Charon's name is generally only spoken in whispers for fear that he may come when called. Charon appears on MB’s tattoo.

Deadly: pluto/charon; persephone (aka Libera/Proserpina; both parent's grief and lover's woe); primordial black hole; Triton (mother gaia permit lock)

Persephone: parent’s grief+lover’s woe, queen of underworld-> necromancy, aka Kore/Core (c.f. Rumour, Art Tornqvist & Cora), symbol 6-sided pomegranate seed

currently trying to drop into the Pluto-Charon (an unremarkable moon) barycentre (possibly an "omphalos")...the only one in Sol...Charon's name was supposed to be said only in whispers in case he heard and was called. And Pluto/Charon were at "the outer rim" the original game release.

no luck so far!
 
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using the orrery view (which was strangely delayed...)
Just a minor derail; There's an annoying bug, where your position in the view is 'flipped or reversed', so when you're on one side of the system, suddenly the orrery view shows you in a totally different place. Haven't found a way to fix it, it makes it hard to discover things like this using the view.
 
Just a minor derail; There's an annoying bug, where your position in the view is 'flipped or reversed', so when you're on one side of the system, suddenly the orrery view shows you in a totally different place. Haven't found a way to fix it, it makes it hard to discover things like this using the view.
I often wonder if FD are intentionally making things buggy to make our life difficult...
Roll on Starfield!
 
Always been my take on things to stop those data miners, i think that one of those permit locked systems or even Titan could be unlocked with a certain trigger, but hey ho, part of me hopes we never find it, the thrill of the chase and all that 😜

O7
I did spot yesterday that the Triton permit is held by Mother Gaia...has anyone pursued relations with them with a view to getting that permit?

I spent a while today trying to drop out at the Pluto-Charon barycentre but no luck, & boring gameplay! Checked out a human signal on Charon but just a standard installation. Then tried to check out the Delphi Control Chapter installation nearby, on the basis that it is nearby, and the Greek original Omphalos was at Delphi, but got a trespass bounty & fed up with being shot at, so jumped out to Barnards Star to pay off the bounty. That installation is owned by Sol Constitution Party-sounds like a suspicious lot to me! Anyone tried shooting the heck out of that installation? The secret is supposed to be deadly!
 
If the permit is not advertised as unknown, but identifies as being under the control of a faction, yet your allied, report it to Support as a bug and seek confirmation as to if it’s flawed or intentional!
I gave up on FD support years ago....

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There’s no earthly (!) reason why my report of a duplicated system name should have required player base support to raise it into the queue to be corrected. It should have been a 5 minute (second?) job for someone to go into stellar forge and give one of the duplicates its procedural name! Consequently it eventually was dropped and the duplication still exists...same with the other duplicates that have been reported over the years.
 
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