In regards to Ross 629, which in the book is mysterious enough, it’s certainly not in game, but there are a number of similar named systems, numerically close in naming.

These seem to cover a certain area, albeit wide in certain sector. One might speculate the missing system ought to be in this general area, that is, if its intended, and not a discrepancy?

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Technically I don’t believe objects can physically travel between systems, as we exist in game in instances, surely there is no actual interstellar space aspect in game, otherwise FD should have utilised it?
This is what was so revealing (to me anyways) about the arrival of the Thargoid Titans. Prior to their arrival in game, nothing existed outside of a system instance and nothing could "travel" between them without a loading screen (hyperspace jump). Now, I'm not exactly sure if the Titans actually did travel between systems or if it was just an added visual effect layer over the starfield bmp, but it showed - for the first and only time - that the game can support an object that travels through the galaxy and not just jumps from system to system...which could, in the end, support the idea that Raxxla is a rogue planet. Now whether or not this mechanic has been in-game since the beginning and whether or not that matters, I'll leave to the more vocal members of the conversation.

If it moves FD just increased the complexity of the puzzle unnecessarily,
Agreed...but "if it moves" it is indeed much harder to find, which may be the point.

Fly aimless, CMDRs! o7
 
, but there are a number of similar named systems, numerically close in naming.
Speaking of names , see below ...
...but "if it moves" it is indeed much harder to find, which may be the point.
So , i realize i'm just a fresh-off-the-station newbie here , but i was just wondering: Without having to read thru this entire one thousand seven hundread & five PAGES thread, has anyone tried using the 'RAXXLA' word as an unscrambled acronym anagram yet?

All i was able to come up with so far is.... 'Arx Axl' ---- mean anything? ( coincidence with the ARX currency word , plus "axl = planetary axle" maybe? )

*Again, my apologies if i'm interjecting out-of-turn or if this particular topic has already been discussed/decided years ago within this thread.

EDIT: changed acronym word to anagram , since that is what i meant
 
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Speaking of names , see below ...

So , i realize i'm just a fresh-off-the-station newbie here , but i was just wondering: Without having to read thru this entire one thousand seven hundread & five PAGES thread, has anyone tried using the 'RAXXLA' word as an unscrambled acronym yet?

All i was able to come up with so far is.... 'Arx Axl' ---- mean anything? ( coincidence with the ARX currency word , plus "axl = planetary axle" maybe? )

*Again, my apologies if i'm interjecting out-of-turn or if this particular topic has already been discussed/decided years ago within this thread.
https://inara.cz/elite/starsystem/21907/

Arx Arcis. Seems to be unpopulated.

Arcis has some links to Hindu/Buddhist stories but I am unsure of the relevance here, probably nothing, but maybe not.
 
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The Inara link Morningstar posted earlier pointed to the author Charles Beaumont. While at first it was easy to dismiss as a randomly chosen name for stations, I started to see why MB may have chosen the name Beaumont as the name of this elusive system for Legacy. Especially considering MB's associations with Lovecraftian "old ones" and dark unseen horrors from a nameless void.

Charles Beaumont was an influential science fiction writer whose stories often dealt with otherworldly horrors and subsequently wrote many of the episodes for the Twilight Zone show.

One of those episodes called Valley of the Shadow was set in a town called Peaceful Valley where a reporter named Philip happened to find himself stuck there, eventually discovering that it is home to a clandestine community of people with access to advanced alien technology "given to the town 104 years ago by a scientist from an unknown planet". The crux of the story was that the reporter, now aware of their existence, became 'imprisoned' inside an invisible wall around the town with the threat of being 'executed' to preserve their secrets. After falling in love with a woman named Ellen, he tries to rescue her from the perceived lack of freedom being imposed on the town. Upon successfully escaping, he finds out she was planted to discreetly test him to determine whether "men had learned the ways of peace". His "execution" for breaking their law is actually having his memories erased and being returned to where he first arrived.

From my own interpretation of the show's title, the Shadow in this case is likely representing the invisible unconscious 'blind spot' of one's personality. The part of the subconscious mind that the Ego does not want to acknowledge.

If Philip the reporter represents the ego - the idealised self - choosing to see the world through the lens of 'freedom', then the shadow he projects would be his demonisation of the people imprisoning him despite their 'higher' wisdom about the risk of proliferating their powerful technology. He effectively manifests an alien dragon out of his own fears of a truth buried in his subconscious. A truth that humanity is not yet wise enough to wield this powerful technology without destroying itself. Thus, being unworthy to wield it safely, the truth is erased from his mind, restoring his human ignorance and leaving him with a vague sense of dejavu. Much like the 'erased' memory of Jasmina Halsey's vision that she found difficult to describe to everyday society and later retracted entirely out of a perceived shame. It also aligns with her intense desire to improve humanity's path to reach this goal.

In Elite, the Thargoids are a race of beings that seem to act without ever caring or acknowledging our intentions. It is as though they know something we don't and are simply acting to protect that "something" through their own volition. Similarly, while the Guardians did seem to triumph over these Thargoids for a time, they ended up manifesting a more powerful 'shadow archetype' in the form of the Construct, which also arrived at the same conclusion that their true predatory nature was not fit for custodianship of the galaxy.

If Philip the reporter had a more wise approach to the people of Peaceful Valley (ie. the gatekeepers), he may have given himself, and thus humanity, access to an 'enlightened power'. Just as if the Guardians could have prevented their own downfall by the truthful acknowledgement of their more shameful aspects. Something that is often espoused in Paradise Lost with the fall of Satan and later the fall of man. Satan / Humanity could have redeemed themselves if they acknowledge the source of their desire which blinds them from 'wakeful custody' of truth and goodwill.

Beaumont is a system literally "far below" Achenar - the star / jewel "at the end of the river". If Beaumont is the id, then this represents a "truth that is repressed" - just like the Empire tried to repress the pirate/slave uprising. So, just like players investigated the wreckage of the Starship One incident to find the truth of the matter, maybe there is a similar need to find a hidden truth about Beaumont? or maybe a place similar to Beaumont such as Freeholm?
What about Achenar's sister star Sirrus / Sirius? Is there a shadow far below it too?
What system is Freeholm "far below" which would represent a greater authoritative power above? (it may not necessarily be the Empire)
What other symbols of Hell far below the Empyrean / Paradise exist in the game?

In light of this theoretical 'lens', it begs the question:
What kind of Test of Ego do we need to undertake in order to acknowledge a given truth within Elite?
What shadowy entity do we need to "confront" in order to reveal this mythical "state of cosmic enlightenment"?
Is this the nature of the discreet test we need to pass for The Dark Wheel to reveal itself to us?

Some further symbology to consider in the search:
The name Philip originates from Greek names for "lover of horses" (Philos + Hippos).
The name Ellen originates from French / Greek names meaning "brilliant", "torch", "light".
In one fantasy writing sense, a heroic knight would ride a horse to save the princess from a dragon. The princess would be symbolic of this light at the end of his journey (aka river / path).
To stretch the metaphor thinly in context with the codex toast, a browband is a piece of a horse's bridle that runs across the horses 'brow' and acts as a central structural anchor point (axis mundi?? omphalos?) to prevent sliding. A jewel is a crystallised 'stone'. So a central stone on the brow of a horse-like figure. Is there a horse symbol in mythology relating to a mother of galaxies? A system name that reflects this?

What about a star within the Horsehead Nebula?
 
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Speaking of names , see below ...

So , i realize i'm just a fresh-off-the-station newbie here , but i was just wondering: Without having to read thru this entire one thousand seven hundread & five PAGES thread, has anyone tried using the 'RAXXLA' word as an unscrambled acronym yet?

All i was able to come up with so far is.... 'Arx Axl' ---- mean anything? ( coincidence with the ARX currency word , plus "axl = planetary axle" maybe? )

*Again, my apologies if i'm interjecting out-of-turn or if this particular topic has already been discussed/decided years ago within this thread.
I did make an attempt at something like that recently. It felt compelling but at the same time intensely confusing as I lack the knowledge to extract anything sensible out of it all :p
 
https://inara.cz/elite/starsystem/21907/

Arx Arcis. Seems to be unpopulated.

Arcis has some links to Hindu/Buddhist stories but I am unsure of the relevance here, probably nothing, but maybe not.
A quick google brings up the Arcis enclosure in France. Maybe another French association?

Tinfoil Drive engaged...
This "urban enclosure" houses the Basilica of Saint Martin of Tours.
Martin of Tours (ie. the place Tours, France) achieved sainthood through alleged miracles like raising people from paralysis / death, and "turning back the flames from a house while Martin was burning down the Roman temple it adjoined; deflecting the path of a felled sacred pine".
The etymology of Tours comes from the Roman era. In Gallic times, Tours was an important crossing point over the river Loire. It became part of the Roman Empire during the 1st century AD, and the city was named "Caesarodunum" ("hill of Caesar"). The name evolved in the 4th century when the original Gallic name, Turones, became "Civitas Turonum", and then "Tours".

Sacred pine - the station gardens?
Tours - Galactic Tours? Brookes Tour?
The Hill of Caesar - brow metaphor?
 
I did make an attempt at something like that recently. It felt compelling but at the same time intensely confusing as I lack the knowledge to extract anything sensible out of it all :p
Now I need to buy graph paper suitable for Kamea squares a la Agrippa and overlay the Raxxla logo over them after assigning Chaldean numerology to each letter in the word RAXXLA. Has any one done this before? It seems like this would be something someone has done before with the amount of people knowledgeable on such things here in this thread but I thought I would ask before attempting.
 
Now I need to buy graph paper suitable for Kamea squares a la Agrippa and overlay the Raxxla logo over them after assigning Chaldean numerology to each letter in the word RAXXLA. Has any one done this before? It seems like this would be something someone has done before with the amount of people knowledgeable on such things here in this thread but I thought I would ask before attempting.
I do recall a few instances of numerology being used. Hopefully this search link works, otherwise use the search filter for "This Thread" and it will bring up some discussions.
 
I do recall a few instances of numerology being used. Hopefully this search link works, otherwise use the search filter for "This Thread" and it will bring up some discussions.
Thanks. I want to jump into it taking the mythology/esoteric angle because I know I would have a lot to offer when it comes to that area and I do see the mythology "breadcrumbs" all over the place, its just the having no way to tell if they are actually breadcrumbs in the first place that can be frustrating sometimes. So at the same time there is that nagging sense of doubt in the back of my head that it will all be for nothing. I guess that comes with the territory when it comes to anything involving this hunt though.
 
Speaking of names , see below ...

So , i realize i'm just a fresh-off-the-station newbie here , but i was just wondering: Without having to read thru this entire one thousand seven hundread & five PAGES thread, has anyone tried using the 'RAXXLA' word as an unscrambled acronym yet?

All i was able to come up with so far is.... 'Arx Axl' ---- mean anything? ( coincidence with the ARX currency word , plus "axl = planetary axle" maybe? )

*Again, my apologies if i'm interjecting out-of-turn or if this particular topic has already been discussed/decided years ago within this thread.
Welcome to the Quest!
Macros has a useful summary on the first page of the thread!
 
Thanks. I want to jump into it taking the mythology/esoteric angle because I know I would have a lot to offer when it comes to that area and I do see the mythology "breadcrumbs" all over the place, its just the having no way to tell if they are actually breadcrumbs in the first place that can be frustrating sometimes. So at the same time there is that nagging sense of doubt in the back of my head that it will all be for nothing. I guess that comes with the territory when it comes to anything involving this hunt though.
It's just a way to play the game. Have fun, and if you're not then stop.
The fun is in the theorising
 
Now I need to buy graph paper suitable for Kamea squares a la Agrippa and overlay the Raxxla logo over them after assigning Chaldean numerology to each letter in the word RAXXLA. Has any one done this before? It seems like this would be something someone has done before with the amount of people knowledgeable on such things here in this thread but I thought I would ask before attempting.
Just because something might have been tried before doesn't mean it's not a valid method. In the end we are all human and prone to missing or misinterpreting things.
Especially with Raxxla since we don't know what it is, nor the final details of how to find/instantiate/enter/trigger/get it to sit and beg!
 
The Inara link Morningstar posted earlier pointed to the author Charles Beaumont. While at first it was easy to dismiss as a randomly chosen name for stations, I started to see why MB may have chosen the name Beaumont as the name of this elusive system for Legacy. Especially considering MB's associations with Lovecraftian "old ones" and dark unseen horrors from a nameless void.

Charles Beaumont was an influential science fiction writer whose stories often dealt with otherworldly horrors and subsequently wrote many of the episodes for the Twilight Zone show.

One of those episodes called Valley of the Shadow was set in a town called Peaceful Valley where a reporter named Philip happened to find himself stuck there, eventually discovering that it is home to a clandestine community of people with access to advanced alien technology "given to the town 104 years ago by a scientist from an unknown planet". The crux of the story was that the reporter, now aware of their existence, became 'imprisoned' inside an invisible wall around the town with the threat of being 'executed' to preserve their secrets. After falling in love with a woman named Ellen, he tries to rescue her from the perceived lack of freedom being imposed on the town. Upon successfully escaping, he finds out she was planted to discreetly test him to determine whether "men had learned the ways of peace". His "execution" for breaking their law is actually having his memories erased and being returned to where he first arrived.

From my own interpretation of the show's title, the Shadow in this case is likely representing the invisible unconscious 'blind spot' of one's personality. The part of the subconscious mind that the Ego does not want to acknowledge.

If Philip the reporter represents the ego - the idealised self - choosing to see the world through the lens of 'freedom', then the shadow he projects would be his demonisation of the people imprisoning him despite their 'higher' wisdom about the risk of proliferating their powerful technology. He effectively manifests an alien dragon out of his own fears of a truth buried in his subconscious. A truth that humanity is not yet wise enough to wield this powerful technology without destroying itself. Thus, being unworthy to wield it safely, the truth is erased from his mind, restoring his human ignorance and leaving him with a vague sense of dejavu. Much like the 'erased' memory of Jasmina Halsey's vision that she found difficult to describe to everyday society and later retracted entirely out of a perceived shame. It also aligns with her intense desire to improve humanity's path to reach this goal.

In Elite, the Thargoids are a race of beings that seem to act without ever caring or acknowledging our intentions. It is as though they know something we don't and are simply acting to protect that "something" through their own volition. Similarly, while the Guardians did seem to triumph over these Thargoids for a time, they ended up manifesting a more powerful 'shadow archetype' in the form of the Construct, which also arrived at the same conclusion that their true predatory nature was not fit for custodianship of the galaxy.

If Philip the reporter had a more wise approach to the people of Peaceful Valley (ie. the gatekeepers), he may have given himself, and thus humanity, access to an 'enlightened power'. Just as if the Guardians could have prevented their own downfall by the truthful acknowledgement of their more shameful aspects. Something that is often espoused in Paradise Lost with the fall of Satan and later the fall of man. Satan / Humanity could have redeemed themselves if they acknowledge the source of their desire which blinds them from 'wakeful custody' of truth and goodwill.

Beaumont is a system literally "far below" Achenar - the star / jewel "at the end of the river". If Beaumont is the id, then this represents a "truth that is repressed" - just like the Empire tried to repress the pirate/slave uprising. So, just like players investigated the wreckage of the Starship One incident to find the truth of the matter, maybe there is a similar need to find a hidden truth about Beaumont? or maybe a place similar to Beaumont such as Freeholm?
What about Achenar's sister star Sirrus / Sirius? Is there a shadow far below it too?
What system is Freeholm "far below" which would represent a greater authoritative power above? (it may not necessarily be the Empire)
What other symbols of Hell far below the Empyrean / Paradise exist in the game?

In light of this theoretical 'lens', it begs the question:
What kind of Test of Ego do we need to undertake in order to acknowledge a given truth within Elite?
What shadowy entity do we need to "confront" in order to reveal this mythical "state of cosmic enlightenment"?
Is this the nature of the discreet test we need to pass for The Dark Wheel to reveal itself to us?

Some further symbology to consider in the search:
The name Philip originates from Greek names for "lover of horses" (Philos + Hippos).
The name Ellen originates from French / Greek names meaning "brilliant", "torch", "light".
In one fantasy writing sense, a heroic knight would ride a horse to save the princess from a dragon. The princess would be symbolic of this light at the end of his journey (aka river / path).
To stretch the metaphor thinly in context with the codex toast, a browband is a piece of a horse's bridle that runs across the horses 'brow' and acts as a central structural anchor point (axis mundi?? omphalos?) to prevent sliding. A jewel is a crystallised 'stone'. So a central stone on the brow of a horse-like figure. Is there a horse symbol in mythology relating to a mother of galaxies? A system name that reflects this?

What about a star within the Horsehead Nebula?
Nice story. It describes technology that the Pilots federation seemingly have access to. Like duplicating objects and resurrecting the dead. 😉

It's also interesting that the protagonist is called Philip, the same as the original Astrophel.

Perhaps we are Philips (Commanders) trying to escape Peaceful Valley (Pilots federation)?
 
I have re-written an intro to my solution to the Raxxla mystery. I'm copying it here for those that didn't make it through my original OP (understandable) and since no-one seems to have come up with anything new in the last few months, I would like to remind you that this is a real thing that actually exists that everyone can be investigating right now.



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Overview:
I discovered that there are hidden images within the audio signal known as the "Landscape Signal" that originates from near the centre of the galaxy, from a point near the system Stuemeae JM-W C1-5825. Those hidden images are viewable using Audacity, and anyone in any ship, with no other requirements, can right now see them. They depict creatures that resemble dragons/serpents, and other things.

However, they are hard to see. They are deliberately obfuscated by a clever system of dynamically generated noise, and the images are 'weak' in the first place - meaning that they require someone to really study the spectrogram and tune it to get the best image possible - and even then they are hard to see.

Most of the OP in my thread is detailing why this is Raxxla, or rather how this relates to Raxxla as it appears in-game.
  • This later post explains that Raxxla is an easter-egg made by (as far as we know) one person, or no more than a small team, at a time when the game was being built, so people expecting Raxxla to be massive and complex are sadly mistaken.
  • This later post contains a little more guidance on one of the 'creatures' and what it looks like (sort of), to help people get the idea.
  • This later post expands on some of the points I skimmed over in my OP trying to be brief, but later I realised I needed to explain a little better, including the connections between Halsey, the FR logs, and Raxxla.
  • This later post has more information on tuning Audacity and working with SpaceGoblin to try and get a better image.
  • This later post addresses common concerns with this solution, including "why isn't it easier to see" - and goes into detail about the methodology that obfuscates the "Landscape Signal" content, including how the signal is obfuscated by the background sound of the galaxy, and explores my research on how the audio works in the Cobra game engine.
  • This later post I remind everyone that Fdev confirmed that the "Landscape Signal" is working as intended, and is where it's supposed to be.
Summary: Raxxla is the name of a myth. The reality is that it's a few different - related - things that all essentially point towards either something in Hyperspace, Hyperspace itself, or more specifically the location near Stuemeae JM-W C1-5825, which seems to be the site of the "Omphalos Rift", which is a thinning between universes.

I don't think what I found is the 'end', I think it's what we were always supposed to have found way back. Unfortunately I've hit a dead end, so I'm hoping that others can pick up from here and figure out how to resolve the images more clearly so everyone can se them, as I think Brookes intended.

 
Nice story. It describes technology that the Pilots federation seemingly have access to. Like duplicating objects and resurrecting the dead. 😉

It's also interesting that the protagonist is called Philip, the same as the original Astrophel.

Perhaps we are Philips (Commanders) trying to escape Peaceful Valley (Pilots federation)?
Good points, I had totally forgotten about Philip Sidney after being so immersed in Milton's cosmos :LOL:

Maybe just as the pirates arriving at Beaumont sparked a riot, or like Darik sparking revolt in Freeholm, we need to empower the underworld factions of certain systems. This might then attract the attention of TDW agents who could provide the test.

If anything it's a good excuse to mess around with the upcoming Powerplay 2.0 🤔
 
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