The Quest To Find Raxxla

mikelowndes

mikelowndes
Staarlord said:
...anyway, back on the topic of Raxxla. I breaked, momentarily, from the "My Great Capricorni Search," to follow some codex clues; "The jewel on the brow of the mother of galaxies..." for example. I bookmarked the Cassiopeia constellation but a star is missing. Anyone know why a certain class B star, Navi (Gamma Cassiopeia) is missing? I know people were following this codex lead like 6 years ago, but wanted to finally check it out for myself. I don't think the "Brow" is specifically referring to the head of Cassiopeia, which there technically isn't even a star for." Rather, I think the constellation itself looks like a brow, so was going to go to the peak/ apex star of that brow, which is Gamma Cassiopeia/ Navii/ HR 264...but it's not in the game. It should be between Schedar and Ruchbah but slightly offset from them. Coincidentally Kuhn almost seems to be in the perfect position, but is the wrong star type. I don't see any B-class in that vicinity. I can't even find Achird.
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Wow I'm actually pretty shocked that theres a 'real' star we know of that's not in game, that is indeed odd and against the principle of E:D surely? ASAIK they used every available known star in 2013 or so then did a few tweaks such as adding in the original Elite systems (Lave et al), but not removing stuff (even some anomalies we can see today in the skybox)? The Stellar Forge takes over to fill in the gaps and extend, as far as I knew. However, the Raxxla containing system could indeed have been a manual add.
 

Rochester

Rochester
Currently tooling around in the system Fortuna, after traversing my ‘holy mountain’ path, with a hold full of TOHF, nothing of importance to report. Except I did get scanned by a system authority ship (illicit cargo); he said “you don’t have anything I’m interested in”. No fines!

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Staarlord

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I think it's fair to say we've beaten Cassiopeia to death. There were other tidbits in that codex that I remember exploring, way back when they included it. The bit about the Vagabond Heart, the Siren. I think back then we were looking in anything Odin related. I myself was even looking for nebulas that stood out in Odin's hold, as well as systems closer to home, like Urd. Urd seemed like the best idea at the time. If memory serves me correctly, it was the well Odin sacrificed an eye to. I can't remember what systems we were checking for the Siren bit. Cassiopeia had been the only one I hadn't gone to myself, as it was the most blatantly obvious in the codex: "Jewel on the brow of the mother of galaxies..." I felt it was a bit baiting at the time. Part of that reference had me wondering if maybe it was Alpheratz too, which is why I just went out that way. Maybe it's not "Andromeda's mother." Maybe it's Andromeda, as seen from the perspective of being the mother of the Andromeda Galaxy. Alpheratz is Andromeda's head in the constellation.

The Drakkster thing is frustrating. Fishy, even. Were it not so close to the region where Comms Array Delta 69 was? I wouldn't think much of it. But it just fit into that whole region nicely. Apart from that he provides details not many would remember over the more basic ones, like what the system looked like, inhabited or no, rings on the gas giant, multiple moons or no...yet remember it being 5-7kls from the parent star (mind you, this does not mean entry star) and remembers the distances of his hops (4-7ly jumps). I feel like if something ominous happened to me I'd be on the forums right away saying, "This normal?" And would have been left with a lasting imprint of the setting, including planet color. People have asked some of these simpler questions but he avoided them and provided anecdotal information nobody asked for but naturally still appreciate. The whole thing is just weird and I'm not sure what to think of it anymore. There may be a Raxxla station as he describes and there may also be a planet capable of generating a field/ portal. It's in Elite's myths this way as well. But since we won't know until we find it, it's hard to say what FDev are keeping from Elite lore and what they are changing. Maybe it's even a star, or black hole.

I might explore another old curiosity. Way back in 2018, I think I was getting my ship engineered in Leesti and found Felicity had a weird transmission tower that made strange sounds on her base. I parked my ship in parallel with it, flat, to see if it was speaking in direct line of site to any specific stars in view, so I would look at my nav panel and select stars to see which lined up with it and if I remember correctly, nothing in the nav panel did, so I had to use the gal map, which was cumbersome, then I jumped to the star that it aligned with the most and explored but found nothing, if I recall.
 
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Zimous

Zimous
Alphecca is also an obvious choice for jewel. Jewel is almost certainly referring to a bright star, and this in particular is one of the brightest from Earth. And this star is also known as Gemma, which is latin for Jewel. It's part of the Corona Borealis constellation, which means crown (brow), with Alphecca being the one in the middle.

The "mother of galaxies" part isn't so obvious, it could be a reference to the Corona Borealis Supercluster which lies in the Corona Borealis constellation and is the most prominent example of its kind in the Northern Celestial Hemisphere, according to Wikipedia. So could be considered the mother of galaxies.
 

Zimous

Zimous
mikelowndes said:
Wow I'm actually pretty shocked that theres a 'real' star we know of that's not in game, that is indeed odd and against the principle of E:D surely? ASAIK they used every available known star in 2013 or so then did a few tweaks such as adding in the original Elite systems (Lave et al), but not removing stuff (even some anomalies we can see today in the skybox)? The Stellar Forge takes over to fill in the gaps and extend, as far as I knew. However, the Raxxla containing system could indeed have been a manual add.
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If you check my response you will find that those stars are in fact in the game. They go by different denominations.
 

CMDR Davanix

CMDR Davanix
So...iv been thinking a lot, and probably reflecting on past theory's and maybe even a repeat, but hear me out.

What if Raxxla is staring us right in the face within Elite right now...In the form of the anomaly in HIP22460

One of our clues is before 2296 - HIP2246(0) - Overlook station has been here at this spot a long time during original permit locks.

Thargoids and Guardian mixture of crystal and targoid tech - Original SAP8 Core container no longer available to find may be these very green crystals the Dark Wheel where messing with.

CIEP base on Soontil - Thargoids and Humans apparently working together on a planet in this system which happens to be in the direction of originally found Guardian structures which are very close by - CIEP not making Weapons but trying to create a Raxxla portal. (The acronym CIEP could mean Circle of Independent Elite Pilots, an offshoot of The Dark Wheel. They used it as a secret military base before being run off by pirates with fancy military technology.)

Salvation and his corp around a very long time - Club/Dark wheel member? activated a new Raxxla portal?

found more than once? many Thargoid Titan crash sights?

Thargoids use Witchspace/Hyperspace differently through Wormholes much different and seamlessly, could Guardian crystals be the "Key" to unlocking the full potential IE creating a Raxxla portal such as the anomaly?

Storyline injection/Elite timeline - Thargoids in the original Elite and rumored to come from another universe or "Elsewhere"

Color of Logo matches somewhat with Thargoids/Anomaly.

Close to Delphi - Another clue

Pleiades nebula (Blue clouded nebula much like Guardian Crystals or something related? very notable place within Elite either way and a tiny bit "obvious")

Soontil Alien artifacts - not yet designated Thargoid or Guardian yet originated from a CEIP and Thargoid project planet?

HIP22460 - What if the clue in the codex is like a Chinese whisper - Dark wheel base 8th moon of a Gas Giant - originally B moon of a Gas giant 8-B - Overlook is/was the Darkwheel/Club station wycherly(The Witch a member or wants to be but active long enough he may already be)

excuse the word vomit im just trying to get it out while its in the head lol there is much more match ups also regarding lore, locations, the club, Dark wheel and overall Elite direction.

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Staarlord

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CMDR Davanix said:
So...iv been thinking a lot, and probably reflecting on past theory's and maybe even a repeat, but hear me out.

What if Raxxla is staring us right in the face within Elite right now...In the form of the anomaly in HIP22460

One of our clues is before 2296 - HIP2246(0) - Overlook station has been here at this spot a long time during original permit locks.

Thargoids and Guardian mixture of crystal and targoid tech - Original SAP8 Core container no longer available to find may be these very green crystals the Dark Wheel where messing with.

CIEP base on Soontil - Thargoids and Humans apparently working together on a planet in this system which happens to be in the direction of originally found Guardian structures which are very close by - CIEP not making Weapons but trying to create a Raxxla portal. (The acronym CIEP could mean Circle of Independent Elite Pilots, an offshoot of The Dark Wheel. They used it as a secret military base before being run off by pirates with fancy military technology.)

Salvation and his corp around a very long time - Club/Dark wheel member? activated a new Raxxla portal?

found more than once? many Thargoid Titan crash sights?

Thargoids use Witchspace/Hyperspace differently through Wormholes much different and seamlessly, could Guardian crystals be the "Key" to unlocking the full potential IE creating a Raxxla portal such as the anomaly?

Storyline injection/Elite timeline - Thargoids in the original Elite and rumored to come from another universe or "Elsewhere"

Color of Logo matches somewhat with Thargoids/Anomaly.

Close to Delphi - Another clue

Pleiades nebula (Blue clouded nebula much like Guardian Crystals or something related? very notable place within Elite either way and a tiny bit "obvious")

Soontil Alien artifacts - not yet designated Thargoid or Guardian yet originated from a CEIP and Thargoid project planet?

HIP22460 - What if the clue in the codex is like a Chinese whisper - Dark wheel base 8th moon of a Gas Giant - originally B moon of a Gas giant 8-B - Overlook is/was the Darkwheel/Club station wycherly(The Witch a member or wants to be but active long enough he may already be)

excuse the word vomit im just trying to get it out while its in the head lol there is much more match ups also regarding lore, locations, the club, Dark wheel and overall Elite direction.

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I do believe it is staring us in the face. Many of us thought it was odd for FDev to lock Lave 2 out. I feel Lave holds the real Raxxla (planet), just as it had once the station. The problem? We can't land on Lave 2 until we find the station. The station can have any name right now, and I even once wondered if it could be Alexander Termina in Kuhn. Alexander, after Alex Ryder...but that's a stretch. The station, is what Drakkster sounds like he had once found but now I'm wondering if that too is much easier than we're making it. I feel like DW knows where it is. He once did a live stream about Raxxla, about 6 years ago. He had emphasized that the core Elite systems may be important to Raxxla but maybe he's just as in the dark as we are. Never the less? Maybe he's right. Lave is a core Elite system.

Also, Zimous might be right. We might not be meant to brute force this. If there has to be a reason that FDev knows why we aren't finding it, it may also not be a searching technique. It might be a game mechanic, like triggering a hidden mission offer from the Dark Wheel. Brute forcing the station location probably only just helps us find where it is but not access it.
 
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Zimous

Zimous
Staarlord said:
I do believe it is staring us in the face. Many of us thought it was odd for FDev to lock Lave 2 out. I feel Lave holds the real Raxxla (planet), just as it had once the station. The problem? We can't land on Lave 2 until we find the station. The station can have any name right now, and I even once wondered if it could be Alexander Termina in Kuhn. Alexander, after Alex Ryder...but that's a stretch. The station, is what Drakkster sounds like he had once found but now I'm wondering if that too is much easier than we're making it. I feel like DW knows where it is. He once did a live stream about Raxxla, about 6 years ago. He had emphasized that the core Elite systems may be important to Raxxla but maybe he's just as in the dark as we are. Never the less? Maybe he's right. Lave is a core Elite system.
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Drew Wagar said multiple times he, and all the other writers, had no knowledge on Raxxla, apart from some cryptic comments from DB when they talked in person. The core systems were established later in the timeline, more than 100 years after Raxxla was first mentioned in Tau Ceti. So it wouldn't make any sense it was related to Lave, in my opinion. The old words if a homage to the old Elite games, but I don't think they bare any relation to Raxxla or even TDW.
 

Nezzie Muso

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mikelowndes said:
Wow I'm actually pretty shocked that theres a 'real' star we know of that's not in game, that is indeed odd and against the principle of E:D surely? ASAIK they used every available known star in 2013 or so then did a few tweaks such as adding in the original Elite systems (Lave et al), but not removing stuff (even some anomalies we can see today in the skybox)? The Stellar Forge takes over to fill in the gaps and extend, as far as I knew. However, the Raxxla containing system could indeed have been a manual add.
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There's also meant to be a real binary at TAU-2 Gruis B, otherwise known as HD 216655, but although the cursor moves to the location, the star isn't there
 

Nezzie Muso

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Nezzie Muso said:
There's also meant to be a real binary at TAU-2 Gruis B, otherwise known as HD 216655, but although the cursor moves to the location, the star isn't there
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soooo .... i went to the nearest system and decided to try to fly towards the missing system. It will take at least 22 hours of real time at 2000c. I know that normally you can't do this. But just in case, does anyone know at what distance a star might become detectable ? EG the guys who found voyager, how far did they fly before they found it, does anyone know?
 

Nezzie Muso

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Well wikipedia lists Tau-2 Gruis as two pairs of binaries, HD 116656 and HD116655 ... "The pair [HD 216656] was first discovered by astronomer W.H. van den Bos in 1944.[12] The primary has an apparent magnitude of 7.30 while the secondary has an apparent magnitude of 7.50.[3] Their current separation is 0.114",[8] making it difficult to resolve their individual properties; the companion is located at a position angle of 267° as of 1964..... ] This system is often confused with HD 216655, a slightly brighter binary system.[14] HD 216655 is located 93.9" away from Tau2 Gruis and they appear to share a common proper motion.[3]

and the star position is marked in galmap without a star, so its got to be worth investigating ?
 

Staarlord

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Nezzie Muso said:
soooo .... i went to the nearest system and decided to try to fly towards the missing system. It will take at least 22 hours of real time at 2000c. I know that normally you can't do this. But just in case, does anyone know at what distance a star might become detectable ? EG the guys who found voyager, how far did they fly before they found it, does anyone know?
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People tried this with Polaris and there are videos on it. Without the Witchspace load screen the assets won't load but you will see the star, from what I remember. Otherwise you are seen as being in the same system you had first arrived in. Give it a shot. I haven't seen it done with invisible stars.
 
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