Heads up, the new Galmap filtering system visually shows a system's population density. Could be useful in our search.

There is population filter now (or was it always there) on the bottom left. It's a bit wonky but basically you have to pop into Pilot's Federation view first, do what you want to do there, and then click on that filter - then you can filter out stars to the population range you want.
 

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Canonn said they prioritized getting to Polaris (someone posted the video from them earlier). I wonder if FD finally caught wind of that and realized this is going to be a problem for them so they "paused" the whole thing while they debate what to do.
 
Canonn said they prioritized getting to Polaris (someone posted the video from them earlier). I wonder if FD finally caught wind of that and realized this is going to be a problem for them so they "paused" the whole thing while they debate what to do.

That's possible, though it's more likely that it's the space-station-in-one-hour exploit that caused everything to grind to a halt. Expect several fraudulent colonization chains to disappear after FD deals with the problem.
 
On a separate note, someone already finished a primary port at Col 285 Sector UW-P b7-0 which is mere 64 LY away from Polaris (with essentially nothing standing in the way to finish the route).
I am stationed about 5ly from polaris. Been there for a week. Found that allot of the gas giants in the region are ammonia based life and have probes both in space and on planets.
 
That's possible, though it's more likely that it's the space-station-in-one-hour exploit that caused everything to grind to a halt. Expect several fraudulent colonization chains to disappear after FD deals with the problem.
you are correct on that though for a long time cannon has been the closet player group to polaris reguardless for many years now.
 
I am stationed about 5ly from polaris. Been there for a week. Found that allot of the gas giants in the region are ammonia based life and have probes both in space and on planets.
Polaris is Thargoid-related from past lore. It's been long anticipated that the story will eventually head there.

That's possible, though it's more likely that it's the space-station-in-one-hour exploit that caused everything to grind to a halt. Expect several fraudulent colonization chains to disappear after FD deals with the problem.
They explicitly said they aren't planning on rollbacks, so I find "erasures" unlikely. They will patch the holes, and in a grand scheme a few extra stations probably don't matter that much. I think they have the data to decide what fraction of total expansion those exploited systems constitute and whether this actually makes any difference.

Edit: I stand corrected - they may actually revert some of this given this was an actual engine cheat rather than some bug on their part:
 
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Edit: I stand corrected - they may actually revert some of this given this was an actual engine cheat rather than some bug on their part:
Thank god. I hate cheaters. Hopefully its only a scrub of cheaters stuff. But that might take time cause i am sure they are checking each commaders build timers.
 
Well, it doesn't make sense for one. It was previously an unpopulated, unoccupied system then suddenly there are secret installations and death skimmers all over the place. That particular planet btw has @Macros Black first footfall - guess they were following him 😊

Basically I guess, I like freighters and trade and exploring and salvaging wrecks. Gunplay, specially on foot, was never a favourite activity of mine.
Following @Macros?
From the real The Dark Wheel faction perhaps??
 
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Polaris, btw. Notice anything? Lol. Fdev will not unlock this permit anytime soon.

It's gonna be like HIP22460 permit. Whether they unlock it or not, who knows. Depends on if they plan on actually pushing the story anytime soon.

My personal prediction is that the titans get into a recycling mode where we can fight them over and over in random places (with some interesting consequences for BGS, probably), and that's going to be it for a VERY long time. Trailblazers is clearly a pivot to a resource management setup. For better or worse, for now the Thargoid story arrived at a "quiet" period. There are some loose ends, but actually not too many. Overall, it got a relatively clean wrap, the war is sort of over, Thargoids are still there somewhere, but humanity is celebrating a "win" and we got colonization, PP 2.0, and some new ships to keep us busy for now.

Which honestly is quite fine status quo. Mysteries and puzzles are actually somewhat hard to drive in games like Elite because you have to keep updating things all the time and it's the margin between impossible and trivial is razor thin. We still have Raxxla for those of us that want to keep themselves busy while trampling around the galaxy.

Regarding the system, yes, it has a lot of gas giants, but otherwise it's not particularly remarkable. Not even an H moon on it, barely some 30odd bodies. When I went scouting COL 285 for Raxxla when Drakkster story blew up, I found a lot of similar things (all you have to do is follow Inara or Spansh and filter for systems with gas giants). It doesn't fit the map from the station garden, either.
 
It's gonna be like HIP22460 permit. Whether they unlock it or not, who knows. Depends on if they plan on actually pushing the story anytime soon.

My personal prediction is that the titans get into a recycling mode where we can fight them over and over in random places (with some interesting consequences for BGS, probably), and that's going to be it for a VERY long time. Trailblazers is clearly a pivot to a resource management setup. For better or worse, for now the Thargoid story arrived at a "quiet" period. There are some loose ends, but actually not too many. Overall, it got a relatively clean wrap, the war is sort of over, Thargoids are still there somewhere, but humanity is celebrating a "win" and we got colonization, PP 2.0, and some new ships to keep us busy for now.

Which honestly is quite fine status quo. Mysteries and puzzles are actually somewhat hard to drive in games like Elite because you have to keep updating things all the time and it's the margin between impossible and trivial is razor thin. We still have Raxxla for those of us that want to keep themselves busy while trampling around the galaxy.

Regarding the system, yes, it has a lot of gas giants, but otherwise it's not particularly remarkable. Not even an H moon on it, barely some 30odd bodies. When I went scouting COL 285 for Raxxla when Drakkster story blew up, I found a lot of similar things (all you have to do is follow Inara or Spansh and filter for systems with gas giants). It doesn't fit the map from the station garden, either.
Theres no "H" moon but that secondary star has a gas giant with "8" moons incredibly close to the star (<500ls), which would match the thumbnail in the codex. I agree with everything else you stated, tho. Random titan events will have to become part of the bgs in some shape or form. TDW station in my mind is a station that doesn't show up on the nav panel but will be visible as a point of light just like any other orbital or poi. If your talking about HIP22460, then I think we should backtrack a bit on the context of the Thargoid Devices. They are all labeled as Gaurdian features in the FSS data, has this been explained yet? Clearly, the declassified relics are a retconned thing because they were used to craft the nanite torpedo pylons for Taranis, now they are not required and you can just buy them with credits. That whole probe, link, sensor story led up to the war giving us new gaurdian/thargoid modules to counteract it but what does that mean for the gaurdians?
 
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No idea. But I just want to say this before I drift off to sleep again - the Guardians aren't the good guys that some people think.
If you wake up somewhere else, write it down. On that note, I am currently in the Eta Carina Nebula. I checked the found guardian sites here that are also labeled as invalid for claim. There's tons of undiscovered systems and I'm hoping for that glorious, golden text. With the claim feature still on pause, I am going to bounce around in the Mandy. If anyone has something distant they want observed, let me know. Now is as good a time as ever.
 
I really dislike commanders who create threads and tease which location they're talking about :rolleyes:

These locations are unpopulated (so far) systems with "complicated names" within 16 LY from HIP 1781 (which he references).

Yin Sector CL-Y d127
CD-37 15492
Luyten 143-23
WISE 1405+5534
DEN 0255-4700

All sites have a colonization ship present. The first system in the list has 20 (!) FCs. Whatever he's planning to do in his secret system, he better do it fast. That area is crawling with commanders right now.
Another one of those huh. I got blue I been there dots all over the place. Look screen shots on their part or it never happened. I'm going to be one of those people.
 
If you wake up somewhere else, write it down. On that note, I am currently in the Eta Carina Nebula.

Oh, nice - I've been looking at that recently, but I'm busy with my NGC 188 project at the moment, and staring at FD "art" in the sky. I just got up there and I have to say this probably is the closest I've seen to something lining up with Paradise Lost without going too abstract about it. From Book V of Paradise Lost:

Of Heaven arrived, the gate self-opened wide
On golden hinges turning, as by work
Divine the sovran Architect had framed.
From hence no cloud, or, to obstruct his sight,
Star interposed, however small he sees,
Not unconformed to other shining globes,
Earth, and the garden of God, with cedars crowned
Above all hills.

Now, the one obvious thing to say is that NGC 188 has been so far scanned up and down (it's a big place, and I just got here so maybe not everything - yet to be seen). But given those references seem to be visual rather than anything else, I'm hoping to find something here that conforms to Paradise Lost visually and perhaps find a breadcrumb here for actual Raxxla location. Among many unnamed systems which are mostly K and M stars, there are some 2MASS systems, and there are some G8 stars that stand out very much. It's kind of interesting that before you get here, you look above and there is absolute blackness of space, no trace of anything to suggest there are stars above, but once you jump in, you start seeing them and star separations go down from 100-200LY to 15-30LY. It's definitely an "experience" of sorts and a unique place - I'm not sure there is another open cluster quite like this anywhere else in this game.

A somewhat interesting bit is that right before you get to NGC 188, there is a system with an ELW orbiting a neutron star and a bunch of other stuff (including a water world, and many other things). While notable, it's hard to ascribe it to anything other than maybe the "yearning of vagabond hearts". Certainly not the ONLY thing that a traveller could want, but really stands out in the whole trip given the location and the quality of the system.


Got to even sign my name on one of the bodies (there are some more left for more pilots passing by) - separately, folks, if you are in a location like this, for goodness sake, DO NOT map and first footfall everything. You generally don't need to, and that's the best guestbook we can have. Map one thing, or first footfall one thing. If you got there, you're rich anyway - what do you need the 10k cr from some icy body for?

No idea. But I just want to say this before I drift off to sleep again - the Guardians aren't the good guys that some people think.

So far Guardians are nowhere to be found, so I don't think there is anything to specifically decided about that. Everything we found on them is "archeological".

It's kind of weird that their "sites" are active with actual working defenses and what not in the same way working traps in ancient temples in Indiana Jones movies is not particularly realistic. But is it just scifi suspension of disbelief, or is it actually something more into the game lore? Maybe another few years and we'll find out. Perhaps Guardians are using us to fight Thargoids, or their AI is, or whatever. But we started just fine without them so we decided where we sit against Thargoids first.

Edit: OK - as I was writing there is probably no other place like NGC 188, I realized I could probably check, and in fact it turns out that there is a sort of "sister location":

Which in game is known as NGC 2682 and IRL it's called King Cobra Cluster (Hmm...) and it sits next to AH Cancri. Wasn't one of you just there?
 
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