The Quest To Find Raxxla

[SHEA PARDH]

Thats the thing people always overpass those. Also a Star can be considered a Gasgiant too say like a brown dwarf.

I personally don't believe in this whole 8th moon of a gas giant story - I'll check them but I have zero expectations to find anything. And the reason is the past tense used by the codex entry to describe the location "the original group was based in a disused starport orbiting the eight moon of an unnamed gas giant". IMO if you find one, it's going to be either a completely dead structure without any power and you'll only find it by getting close to it and seeing it out of your cockpit, or it's since crashed onto the moon (so a wreck somewhere). But stations can move, so why abandon a station when you can just refurb it and put it to a good use somewhere?

Have we even looked at the moons of Shinrarta closely enough? (probably, but I don't know if people actually did or people just scanned and mapped and moved on - I certainly haven't actually inspected the place that closely) They could have just repainted the whole thing and renamed it "Jameson Memorial". If there is some way to ID the stations other than the label on the map and the obvious markings, it might be useful to check if "Jameson Memorial" isn't a refurb of something much older. Why go to Polaris to a permit-locked system when you have a permit-locked system with 3 separate candidate moons right there (2G, 2H, and 3H)? 2G is even landable.

And separately, I don't believe the station and Raxxla actually have anything to do with each other in terms of location. That's only an assumption from out of the game lore. The station was a base for the group, the group was looking for Raxxla, there isn't really any practical reason to believe that one would lead to the other.

 

[Reyedog]

Oh, nice - I've been looking at that recently, but I'm busy with my NGC 188 project at the moment, and staring at FD "art" in the sky. I just got up there and I have to say this probably is the closest I've seen to something lining up with Paradise Lost without going too abstract about it. From Book V of Paradise Lost:



Now, the one obvious thing to say is that NGC 188 has been so far scanned up and down (it's a big place, and I just got here so maybe not everything - yet to be seen). But given those references seem to be visual rather than anything else, I'm hoping to find something here that conforms to Paradise Lost visually and perhaps find a breadcrumb here for actual Raxxla location. Among many unnamed systems which are mostly K and M stars, there are some 2MASS systems, and there are some G8 stars that stand out very much. It's kind of interesting that before you get here, you look above and there is absolute blackness of space, no trace of anything to suggest there are stars above, but once you jump in, you start seeing them and star separations go down from 100-200LY to 15-30LY. It's definitely an "experience" of sorts and a unique place - I'm not sure there is another open cluster quite like this anywhere else in this game.

A somewhat interesting bit is that right before you get to NGC 188, there is a system with an ELW orbiting a neutron star and a bunch of other stuff (including a water world, and many other things). While notable, it's hard to ascribe it to anything other than maybe the "yearning of vagabond hearts". Certainly not the ONLY thing that a traveller could want, but really stands out in the whole trip given the location and the quality of the system.

EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map

The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.

www.edsm.net

Got to even sign my name on one of the bodies (there are some more left for more pilots passing by) - separately, folks, if you are in a location like this, for goodness sake, DO NOT map and first footfall everything. You generally don't need to, and that's the best guestbook we can have. Map one thing, or first footfall one thing. If you got there, you're rich anyway - what do you need the 10k cr from some icy body for?



So far Guardians are nowhere to be found, so I don't think there is anything to specifically decided about that. Everything we found on them is "archeological".

It's kind of weird that their "sites" are active with actual working defenses and what not in the same way working traps in ancient temples in Indiana Jones movies is not particularly realistic. But is it just scifi suspension of disbelief, or is it actually something more into the game lore? Maybe another few years and we'll find out. Perhaps Guardians are using us to fight Thargoids, or their AI is, or whatever. But we started just fine without them so we decided where we sit against Thargoids first.

Edit: OK - as I was writing there is probably no other place like NGC 188, I realized I could probably check, and in fact it turns out that there is a sort of "sister location":

Messier 67 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Which in game is known as NGC 2682 and IRL it's called King Cobra Cluster (Hmm...) and it sits next to AH Cancri. Wasn't one of you just there?

I was just there. Getting there is a pain in the butt and a wrong move will leave you calling for fuel rats.

 

[SHEA PARDH]

I was just there. Getting there is a pain in the butt and a wrong move will leave you calling for fuel rats.

I shoved an extra class 5 tank on my Mandalay and a class 6 fuel scoop, which means a class 4 booster and a class 3 shield and it's still getting like 80LY - since we have carriers I figured I don't need the extra jump range, but effectively class 6 tank and scoop on it makes the whole thing a lot nicer.

 

[Ch3x]

I shoved an extra class 5 tank on my Mandalay and a class 6 fuel scoop, which means a class 4 booster and a class 3 shield and it's still getting like 80LY - since we have carriers I figured I don't need the extra jump range, but effectively class 6 tank and scoop on it makes the whole thing a lot nicer.

I opted for the 5 size booster, 6 size scoop, and 3 size shield enhanced low power. Got 16t anti-corrosion, research and repair limpets and g5 drag drive thrusters with about 83-93ly depending on fuel. Then 2a overcharged powerplant with thermal spread is just enough power to run everything so like g3.5. What shield upgrade are u running? Also, whats going on in NGC 188?

 

[Reyedog]

I personally don't believe in this whole 8th moon of a gas giant story - I'll check them but I have zero expectations to find anything. And the reason is the past tense used by the codex entry to describe the location "the original group was based in a disused starport orbiting the eight moon of an unnamed gas giant". IMO if you find one, it's going to be either a completely dead structure without any power and you'll only find it by getting close to it and seeing it out of your cockpit, or it's since crashed onto the moon (so a wreck somewhere). But stations can move, so why abandon a station when you can just refurb it and put it to a good use somewhere?

Have we even looked at the moons of Shinrarta closely enough? (probably, but I don't know if people actually did or people just scanned and mapped and moved on - I certainly haven't actually inspected the place that closely) They could have just repainted the whole thing and renamed it "Jameson Memorial". If there is some way to ID the stations other than the label on the map and the obvious markings, it might be useful to check if "Jameson Memorial" isn't a refurb of something much older. Why go to Polaris to a permit-locked system when you have a permit-locked system with 3 separate candidate moons right there (2G, 2H, and 3H)? 2G is even landable.

And separately, I don't believe the station and Raxxla actually have anything to do with each other in terms of location. That's only an assumption from out of the game lore. The station was a base for the group, the group was looking for Raxxla, there isn't really any practical reason to believe that one would lead to the other.

Because in the past with Jameson there is a Open Thargoid Portal. A Thargoid Shuttle and a Thargoid Mother Ship. Was also the only way to get to their part of the galaxy Miackce. You docked with the Scout Shuttle and it transported you to their system. Inra choose Jameson cause the Thargoids trusted him out of kindness thinking he was only sending a message of our strength to stop the war.That kindness became betrayed with the Mycoid. If First Encounters is still canon then these things will still be there. It's permit locked to cover up the fact that we murdered billions of Thargoids and what is left there would expose the truth. It is also an open gateway to their system and ships that have no pilots as the insects got dissolved and killed by the Mycoid. Considering if you have played the game its kinda f'ed up considering ignoring their pleas for help is how it turned out to be the reality of the events.

Miacke is not in the game anymore cause it followed a old naming system so it is theorized that Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3 might be that system. Would explain how a mining company got there if they somehow were gained access to Polaris by a shady person and Galnet reported how terrible that went. If Raxxla is related to all this it is unknown but it would fit into a bunch of puzzle pieces if it was. We can only hope Fdev allows Polaris to finally be open. And we might findout our PP2.0 powers to be are and have been the bad guys all this time. At any rate its prob all interconnected. The DW / Polaris and Raxxla are all prob within reach of one another.

Here's a list of FFE's systems https://www.frontierastro.co.uk/Systems/systems3.html

 

[SHEA PARDH]

I opted for the 5 size booster, 6 size scoop, and 3 size shield enhanced low power. Got 16t anti-corrosion, research and repair limpets and g5 drag drive thrusters with about 83-93ly depending on fuel. Then 2a overcharged powerplant with thermal spread is just enough power to run everything so like g3.5. What shield upgrade are u running? Also, whats going on in NGC 188?

Enhanced Low Power shields (always) on bi-weave in general.

Quaint place. I present "Green Hills of Stranglethorn".

 

[SHEA PARDH]

Because in the past with Jameson there is a Open Thargoid Portal. A Thargoid Shuttle and a Thargoid Mother Ship. Was also the only way to get to their part of the galaxy Miackce. You docked with the Scout Shuttle and it transported you to their system. Inra choose Jameson cause the Thargoids trusted him out of kindness thinking he was only sending a message of our strength to stop the war.That kindness became betrayed with the Mycoid. If First Encounters is still canon then these things will still be there. It's permit locked to cover up the fact that we murdered billions of Thargoids and what is left there would expose the truth. It is also an open gateway to their system and ships that have no pilots as the insects got dissolved and killed by the Mycoid. Considering if you have played the game its kinda f'ed up considering ignoring their pleas for help is how it turned out to be the reality of the events.

Miacke is not in the game anymore cause it followed a old naming system so it is theorized that Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3 might be that system. Would explain how a mining company got there if they somehow were gained access to Polaris by a shady person and Galnet reported how terrible that went. If Raxxla is related to all this it is unknown but it would fit into a bunch of puzzle pieces if it was. We can only hope Fdev allows Polaris to finally be open. And we might findout our PP2.0 powers to be are and have been the bad guys all this time. At any rate its prob all interconnected. The DW / Polaris and Raxxla are all prob within reach of one another.

Here's a list of FFE's systems https://www.frontierastro.co.uk/Systems/systems3.html

I think that encounter is canon because you get to read about it when you go to the crashed Cobra. I didn't realize that was at Polaris. However that makes sense, but whether any of this is really meant to be connected to Raxxla, that's harder to say. I sort of doubt the Dark Wheel station would be there because that makes little sense if the whole place was Thargoid home, basically.

 

[Reyedog]

I think that encounter is canon because you get to read about it when you go to the crashed Cobra. I didn't realize that was at Polaris. However that makes sense, but whether any of this is really meant to be connected to Raxxla, that's harder to say. I sort of doubt the Dark Wheel station would be there because that makes little sense if the whole place was Thargoid home, basically.

Unless they occupied the place after the first war to hide from authorities and use it as a means to get around the galaxy. It is possible they moved the station there. Or the station is one of the dead thargoid bases there. I also have a gut feeling the Darkwheel station will be named as is but the pirates are a different name.

 

[SHEA PARDH]

Unless they occupied the place after the first war to hide from authorities and use it as a means to get around the galaxy.

I kind of doubt it. If nothing else, wouldn't it be a little TOO obvious?

It is possible they moved the station there.

Sure, but in that case you can move the station anywhere. Jameson Memorial is literally called after this, and sits in a system controlled by a faction indpendent of the three superpowers. The beacons explain why EPF is generally hard to go after.

Or the station is one of the dead thargoid bases there.

That seems unlikely, honestly. Based on the codex and Lyta Crane the "conspiracy theorist" accounting, the station exists and there are meant to be records around to convince you that this is the real deal. I don't particularly think that Jameson Memorial is actually the Dark Wheel station, but at least half of the story flat out fits Shinrarta - you have Jameson Memorial, which happens to be Orbis Station, you have a system with two separate giants with an 8th moon, you have a bunch of beacons that explain what EPF is. If you sort of translate from "conspiracy" to "normal", it fits very well.

I still think the Engineers are the actual Dark Wheel - like half of them (that I know of) have some sort of connection to the known characters from Dark Wheel group, there is no other group in the game that is so well connected to that story. You have to jump through hoops to learn about them and to get access to them.

 

[Tifu]

If First Encounters is still canon then these things will still be there. It's permit locked to cover up the fact that we murdered billions of Thargoids and what is left there would expose the truth.

I had no idea, always felt there were two sides to the story and this bit of lore filled in the puzzle for me. Thank you.

 

[Reyedog]

I kind of doubt it. If nothing else, wouldn't it be a little TOO obvious?



Sure, but in that case you can move the station anywhere. Jameson Memorial is literally called after this, and sits in a system controlled by a faction indpendent of the three superpowers. The beacons explain why EPF is generally hard to go after.



That seems unlikely, honestly. Based on the codex and Lyta Crane the "conspiracy theorist" accounting, the station exists and there are meant to be records around to convince you that this is the real deal. I don't particularly think that Jameson Memorial is actually the Dark Wheel station, but at least half of the story flat out fits Shinrarta - you have Jameson Memorial, which happens to be Orbitz Station, you have a system with two separate giants with an 8th moon, you have a bunch of beacons that explain what EPF is. If you sort of translate from "conspiracy" to "normal", it fits very well.

I still think the Engineers are the actual Dark Wheel - like half of them (that I know of) have some sort of connection to the known characters from Dark Wheel group, there is no other group in the game that is so well connected to that story. You have to jump through hoops to learn about them and to get access to them.

1. Liz Ryder would def fit the criminal part of them being part of the sec. 2. Bill Turner for his fathers secrets. 3. Farseer for her knowledge of the underworld. 4. Ram Tah And 5. Palin for their shady practices. 6. Elvira Martuuk for their past criminal stunts and hiding it. 7. The Dweller for being unknown and mysterious. And finally 8. Hera Tani with their criminal up bringing and connections with the mysterious stranger. It's possible thats our Dark Circle of shady people to gain high favor and interest with. Or I was thinking it says to make the wheel Turn. What if it wants us to make all of them turn on one another. Make the Dark Wheel fight the Dark Wheel.

Right now with colonization and some other stuff at a stand still we have to wait till Fdev fixe the cheating issue.

I do think what drakkster2025 found was a thing at the time but ED has evolved so much it is uncertain if how they found it is the same with how we have to find it now with more options that we can use to detect things. So Fdev Hides it even harder. Can't make it too easy and obvious but we have codex clues. And possibly a Tour connected to it.

 

[Reyedog]

I had no idea, always felt there were two sides to the story and this bit of lore filled in the puzzle for me. Thank you.

Once in a blue moon I replay the old games. They have interesting things attached and written for them. First encounters was my go to game for a long time until starlancer and freelancer became a thing. When ED got announced I jumped on whatever I could to become a backer.

 

[SHEA PARDH]

1. Liz Ryder would def fit the criminal part of them being part of the sec. 2. Bill Turner for his fathers secrets. 3. Farseer for her knowledge of the underworld. 4. Ram Tah And 5. Palin for their shady practices. 6. Elvira Martuuk for their past criminal stunts and hiding it. 7. The Dweller for being unknown and mysterious. And finally 8. Hera Tani with their criminal up bringing and connections with the mysterious stranger. It's possible thats our Dark Circle of shady people to gain high favor and interest with. Or I was thinking it says to make the wheel Turn. What if it wants us to make all of them turn on one another. Make the Dark Wheel fight the Dark Wheel.

Right now with colonization and some other stuff at a stand still we have to wait till Fdev fixe the cheating issue.

Also, notice how weirdly the codex has an entry on The Dark Wheel but not on The Engineers? Funny. Sure, the Engineers are sprinkled all over the place, but there isn't an actual codex entry about them. Heck, the Consortium has a codex entry. Engineering is mentioned in the Pilot's Handbook, but not in the Knowledge Base.

 

[Neestar]

Also, notice how weirdly the codex has an entry on The Dark Wheel but not on The Engineers? Funny. Sure, the Engineers are sprinkled all over the place, but there isn't an actual codex entry about them. Heck, the Consortium has a codex entry. Engineering is mentioned in the Pilot's Handbook, but not in the Knowledge Base.

yeah and doesn't Felicity have some type of chat/dialog ( at her station ) whereby she'll say something that sounds like: "....that time i visited R--- oh i better not discuss that!"

 

[SHEA PARDH]

By the way, I ran into some old posts about obtaining weird permits. Has anyone managed to get the layout of Witches' Reach via purchasing exploration data?

 

[Reyedog]

Also, notice how weirdly the codex has an entry on The Dark Wheel but not on The Engineers? Funny. Sure, the Engineers are sprinkled all over the place, but there isn't an actual codex entry about them. Heck, the Consortium has a codex entry. Engineering is mentioned in the Pilot's Handbook, but not in the Knowledge Base.

Speaking of the consortium they are located in the NGC 6188 Sector LC-V c2-28 nebula.

 

[Reyedog]

By the way, I ran into some old posts about obtaining weird permits. Has anyone managed to get the layout of Witches' Reach via purchasing exploration data?

I had it a long time ago but seems to purge itself every so often after updates so i would have to repurchase it again. I thought I had a screen shot of it but i think that was on a drive that got destroyed.

 

[Reyedog]

Also, notice how weirdly the codex has an entry on The Dark Wheel but not on The Engineers? Funny. Sure, the Engineers are sprinkled all over the place, but there isn't an actual codex entry about them. Heck, the Consortium has a codex entry. Engineering is mentioned in the Pilot's Handbook, but not in the Knowledge Base.

It is very odd. You'd think they would have their own cabal or something codex wise but nada.

 

[Tifu]

Mechan called for control of the Pleaides area in the AXI Discord channel. Here's an excerpt of that announcement:

Be careful in the Open or even in the AXI PG. There are people who don't like the AXI player group and conflicts are bound to happen.

 

[Reyedog]

Mechan called for control of the Pleaides area in the AXI Discord channel. Here's an excerpt of that announcement:

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Be careful in the Open or even in the AXI PG. There are people who don't like the AXI player group and conflicts are bound to happen.

Not trying to be mean but some of those axi people are butt hats themselves. Yeah gonna go solo around there. Mechan opened a can of worms I dont think he realizes he cannot close again. He's about to be Glory to pirate kind in a few days.