yep yep, i read that part CMDR thx thx , but i was asking about which type of STAR in the background behind the station.
Maybe it could be a 'T Tauri' class type star? ( just my uneducated guess )
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Maybe it could be a 'T Tauri' class type star? ( just my uneducated guess )
I've come across a similar discussion on what the star type is - the stumbling block is whether the picture in the Codex was enhanced. They never did come to a conclusion
I've come across a similar discussion on what the star type is - the stumbling block is whether the picture in the Codex was enhanced. They never did come to a conclusion
Even if it's enhanced and even if you take that picture as evidence, this is a cold M or K at most, likely a giant and you still need the whole 9-body subsystem to be very close to see anything of the sort in the picture. It could also be T Tauri (one of those that look basically like M and you want to scoop but can't), but then this needs to be even closer. Or S class, but those are few and far in between and people generally visit them. The distance requirement to get this shot is the biggest problem with that picture.
And there literally aren't really supergiants anywhere remotely close enough for this to work, and with those you're looking at this station orbiting a lava world, possibly. Funnily enough, I've been to two out of four in a reasonable, and one is Beetlejuice, but the other was some HIP system that wasn't actually all that scanned, but it also didn't have anything interesting. The supergiants are close-ish, but you're already looking at >1k LY trips if I recall correctly so I'd not really count them as primary candidates.
There is another option that this is a shot of a secondary star in a system, not a primary one. This reduces the distance requirements, and primary could be far away.
So, you could be looking at some system where the primary is some O, B, A, or F, with a secondary of maybe T and a gas giant paired in a close-ish orbit, far away, and the shot is of the T star, and you don't actually see the gas giant in the picture.
A spansh query for something like this, with distance from the entrance >100kLS gives me 12 candidates.
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And we have 38 Aquarii:
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It would seem to me it is using that moon to protect itself from whatever star that might be. Also on a side note. Been a hot minute. Does Betelgeuse
have a moon close to it?
Has anyone ever tried to kill an anomaly? I'm still out by Eta Carinae and I stopped by the nearest p-type4 lagrange cloud and im curious what tests anyone has done with them. You can't cargo scoop them although they show up like items would, I might try to research limpet them but I'm going to bed for now. This one just does hull dmg when <200m. Very similar to the distance requirement for activating a probe so I tried just honking at it, shining lights, etc. I wish i had a beam laser or something gaurdian/thargoid to try to offer it. Posing this to get a jist of what people may or may not have tried already.
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There is a lava world with a beacon about it being a lava world. This is extremely visited system.
There is a lava world with a beacon about it being a lava world. This is extremely visited system.
You can probe them with research limpets.
I found this: HIP 34491
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So there is an "G A" moon there, and a T star as a "planet" in a close proximity. Wonder what that looks like in practice.
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So there is an "G A" moon there, and a T star as a "planet" in a close proximity. Wonder what that looks like in practice.
Here is Beta Lupi which is even better candidate:
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That assumes we consider a "red dwarf" to be a "gas giant" of sorts.
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| Body | Type | Subtype | Distance (LS) |
| Beta Lupi 10 | Star | M (Red dwarf) Star | 39,653.18 |
| Beta Lupi 10 h | Planet | Rocky body | 39,604.56 |
That assumes we consider a "red dwarf" to be a "gas giant" of sorts.
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Here is one with a red giant as a 13th "planet" with 11 "moons":
29 Piscium
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29 Piscium
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With the advent of Trailblazer, we now know the construction requirements and initial system populations associated with orbital stations types.
The Orbis station likely to be the HQ of the Dark Wheel is a T3 construct, the highest possible. It requires 200K+ tons of materials, enough to build 4 Coriolis stations (T2). In contrast, an outpost only requires 18K+ tons of material.
A system with an Orbis has at least 100,000 inhabitants at the start - an outpost starts out with 10K at the most. Whichever system the original station was in, this was a major and very expensive undertaking before TDW took over and powered down the station.
You do not power down a station of this capacity unless some critical event happened to the system. This is the sort of incident that leaves tracks in Galnet or the Codex, it is something that cannot be hushed up.
The Orbis station likely to be the HQ of the Dark Wheel is a T3 construct, the highest possible. It requires 200K+ tons of materials, enough to build 4 Coriolis stations (T2). In contrast, an outpost only requires 18K+ tons of material.
A system with an Orbis has at least 100,000 inhabitants at the start - an outpost starts out with 10K at the most. Whichever system the original station was in, this was a major and very expensive undertaking before TDW took over and powered down the station.
You do not power down a station of this capacity unless some critical event happened to the system. This is the sort of incident that leaves tracks in Galnet or the Codex, it is something that cannot be hushed up.
Well, I imagine they stole it. Why else would you run it in "stealth mode"?
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Then what happened to the 100k (or more) inhabitants of the system who depended on the station for their livelihood and existence?
BGS has a catastrophic event for thousands of systems every week. Dark Wheel dropped the main faction's influence and civil war broke out?
Honestly, the problem here is that we don't know when exactly they had this starport. You're looking post Python production so after 2800, but definitely before 3300. Even if you narrow this down a "bit" you're still looking at a range of a hundred years a couple hundred years ago, so at best you might be looking for a beacon of some sort to explain what happened.
Honestly, the problem here is that we don't know when exactly they had this starport. You're looking post Python production so after 2800, but definitely before 3300. Even if you narrow this down a "bit" you're still looking at a range of a hundred years a couple hundred years ago, so at best you might be looking for a beacon of some sort to explain what happened.
they are all pirates that call it home.
And each of them has a parrot which goes around their shoulder saying "Rrrrrraxxla".
I'm going to do a deep search at The Dweller's system.
That's true, a beacon might be the only thing left to record the event because the most likely scenario for what happened is a failed colony. None of the BGS events, even infrastructure failure, prevents a system from recovering and growing again.
When a primary station is placed within a system to kickoff colonization - if it's a Coriolis, Orbis or Ocellus - then it's economy type is Colony. This means it consumes everything and produces very little (ie. hydrogen & bio waste). Once the industrial/hi-tech/extraction/refining outposts, settlements and installations are built then the system becomes more self sufficient and starts to develop a production economy depending on what other constructs were built.
When a station like the Orbis powers down to be undetectable, 75% power reduction isn't enough - it will still output the emission level of a Coriolis. The TDW had to bring it down to a level below that of an outpost for the cloaking to work. We're talking about a reduction of 90% or more so either most of the population of 100k was gone by then or the TDW is a secret association of mass murderers.
Which is why the most likely possibility, to me, is that this particular colonization effort failed and no other structures were built that could sustain human life. TDW then took over the station after the mass evacuation occured then powered it down.
The other grimmer possibility is that something killed off 90+% of the population and they shut down the whole thing. This would be the scenario where a beacon might be found.
Not a bad idea.
So I spent some time with spansh looking through all systems with plausibly orange stars as non-primary bodies and H bodies and the few mentioned above are actually about the main candidates - there isn't really much else. Also, most of T Tauri are likely purple since they have rings.
I'm really curious in the 29 Piscium now - a red giant as a "moon" is pretty unique, however this is Y = -406 so it's stretching it in terms of "here be a secret pirate base". The edge of the bubble is 200 LY above and by edge of the bubble I mean there is a weird pocket of populated "no name" systems with nothing else remotely close by.
Edit: OK so there is Fehu system which is at -449, 3 million population - so maybe 29 Piscium isn't out of the realm of possibility.
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