I've just been there, surface scanned everything and nothing out of the ordinary unfortunately.
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Interesting, but that also means that this could be a Thargoid activity system (or a future one?) - that being said it's right in the bubble so having Thargoids show up there is going to be a show.
Thank you. That actually makes it weirder if there are no particular signs of anything special. Usually something is in the system if it's marked invalid.
Thread below got revived. Other commanders are now on the lookout for unusual tip-off missions too. Bears watching.
Time to pay attention to Tip Offs again?
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Received yesterday task from Tip Off on scanning system SVAROGICH, 3a (12.15/-84.56). It's a military base. It is necessary to scan the sensors for a certain time. Thank you! Do you remember the system you've got this Tip Off? In fact there two options to obtain the end message log from the...
Were you able to check out the 2nd sun? Not FSS, go near it or orbit it. It also has an asteroid belt.
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Right right , hmm... gosh it could be almost anywhere!
Sometimes this entire daunting search makes my head spin.
Well, actually not really anywhere. I went through basically everything plausible within 500 LY and it came down to like 4 systems to check. The constraint of "orangered" star and an 8th moon within close proximity, never mind the gas giant, limits this to very few systems. That assumes we trust the picture in the codex.
If we want this to be close to the main star, the situation is also not good. Here is spansh result for all H moons of gas giants in under 500LY from Sol and under 500LS from entry point:
Elite: Dangerous Index
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There is nothing under 100LS, and I think if you started with the ones closer to the star you'd quickly find out that there is a cutoff distance for this picture to be feasible and it's probably closer than 500LS.
Edit: And this query is all H bodies within 1000LS of an orangered giant main star within 1000LY of Sol (which is probably excessive).
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I don't know what cutoff distance from entry would be appropriate for those giants so that requires some testing.
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If it's a red dwarf star, then the cutoff distance is well under 50 Ls. An 8th moon that close is astrophysically implausible and I've not found any examples in any configuration. There are certainly stations where you could take that picture, but they'll be orbiting inner HMCs.
If it's a red giant star, then you can get the right proportions at all sorts of places in the 1000-3000 Ls range depending on the exact star, and there are 8th moons of gas giants - but someone upthread had a close look at the photo and had fairly good evidence from the visual artefacts that it was a red dwarf.
It doesn't appear, unfortunately, to be a literal picture of the station.
If we take that literally, that means the red dwarf would have to be a "planet", and the H moon is around it. Those configurations exist.
Maybe the picture was 4x zoom? I'd have to find one and try to see if zooming in reveals the corona features.
Edit: here are 136 orangered giants within 500LY of Sol with H bodies under 3k LS from entrance:
Elite: Dangerous Index
www.spansh.co.uk
It's a relatively small list.
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Yes, that's certainly possible - but then where's the "gas giant"?
Well, the red dwarf is made of gas and is kind of "giant" by those standards? LOL I'd not be surprised if that codex was winging that part.
Right now we have four options:
1. It's an orangered giant, in which case the picture is close but not accurate.
2. It's a red dwarf, in which case Lyta Crane is full of hot air (just like the red dwarf).
3. It's neither of those things, and Lyta Crane's account is somewhat right but the picture is totally made up (and you can toss the Orbis station assumption, too).
4. Lyta Crane made things up, and the picture is made up, too.
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If Lyra Crane's story contained a kernel of truth but was designed to throw others of the scent, it could be very well be that there is no gas giant or even a hidden disused station somewhere.
Since TDW existed from the earliest days of hyperlight travel, it could be active on one the oldest operational Orbis stations in existence. Hidden in plain sight.
Spansh returns no results for an H body within 100LS of a main red dwarf anywhere in the galaxy. The only way this is a red dwarf is if it's in a planet configuration. You can plausibly find one paired with a gas giant with 8 moons, or consider it to be THE gas giant and those exist with 8 moons, and those moons can be within 50LS. And that's the most plausible configuration to replicate the picture, but I'm with @Tifu that I don't think the station exists as described and pictured in the codex.
I did a more detailed search of the Spansh bodies dump back then, and no, not that way either. The only gas giants with 8 moons in a barycentric configuration were the heavier body of the barycentre pair.
EDIT: this does not rule out it existing in a hand-crafted system so far undiscovered, which doesn't need to meet standard Stellar Forge plausibility requirements, of course.
I went close to it but I didn't get into each cluster of the asteroid belt...
I have an update for you
Each sphere could be a 'zoomed-in' inner layer of Milton's description - The Cosmos, The Universe, and Earth.
Some of these connections / relationships are certainly based on me trying to "fit" his model with this design as well as seeing parallels with the ancient hebrew / old testament ideas, so it's more of an experiment.
System Info
System: HIP 18390
Station: California Freeport
Notable Factions: Sirius Atmospherics, Sirius Mining - contains all FSD injection materials
Astronomical identifiers: HD 24583, TYC 2365-2062-1, USNO-A2 1200-01839264, located in the Perseus constellation.
Idea 1 - Path runs from Heaven [Sphere 1] to enter the sphere of the cosmos [2], through the Jasper Sea, onto Earth [3], and down to the gates of Hell / Underworld.
Idea 2 - Satan's Journey (right to left) from Hell (the door is runic Haglaz / Hail / Hagl (sounds like Hell and the door "loops" from the hell side of Milton's cosmos to leave Hell), through the Chasm / Void of Chaos to Earth, the Pavilion of chaos (small circle?), 'over' the Universe, to The Empyrean / Heaven.
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The question is, does it relate to anything in the game if the designers chose to represent this idea?
1. The pragmatic answer - it is a fictional celebration of Humanity's creation mythology turned into a garden landscape for tourists to enjoy. OR
2. It is a direct reference to Milton's pendent world - reinforced by MB's final tourist beacon reference. It is a clue for Raxxla. Which begs the question:
How are the other garden rooms related, if at all? Can they be tied by a common theme?
CMDR Selbie, I hope this message finds you well.
I have reason to believe that you have found a symbolic architecture that would excite Old Earth Masons. I am currently researching it and have more details that may interest you.
Please get in touch with me on the Independent RAXXLA Hunters Discord: https://discord.gg/ppsxexmQ
Interested CMDRs are welcome. #raxxla channel.
No worries, I'll check out those clusters myself tomorrow.
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I'll be honest, you could just interpret the station garden diagram as Sol system, but this has a caveat.
Paradise Lost, besides of course being a gem of literature, has one reason why it's important - it's basically the last work in the history of humankind of significance based on Ptolemaic view of the universe. It happened as we were on the verge of generally accepting the Copernican view. It being used in ED universe is specifically contrasting the two models. Funnily, ED universe is kind of weird in-between - galactic coordinates are originated in Sol rather than actual galactic center (Sag A*).
The station diagram sort of mixes two separate things which makes it odd.
On one end you have the big motif of Milton's universe: with the illustration on the left from Sprague's work, our universe in the middle, and whatever is on the right subject to interpretation. The thing to remember about Milton's universe and Ptolemaic universe in general is that the spheres were Sun, Moon, 5 planets, and starry sky, to which Milton added Crystalline and Primum Mobile spheres. It's unlikely in the same diagram there is Sun, Moon, or any other planet AND any depiction of the spheres - or whoever drew this doesn't understand the Ptolemaic universe.
However, then we have the body diagram embedded in it, which sort of runs parallel to the rest of it, which I find hard to ignore. Maybe the 6 bodies in line map the route to Heaven and you have to read it right to left (as depicted in those examples, but you could rotate it the other way around). You start at Hell's Gate, the small circle is anyone's guess, the larger with 6 trees may be indeed the "deepest void", then you have another stop before you cross into Sol, then you get to Earth, then in SOL you need to visit two specific bodies which leads you to Heaven's Gate which opens into Empyrean. I'll still maintain that the void is Pleiades and the Hell's Gate is Barnard's Loop. Earth is Earth, so the question becomes what of the other two things in SOL?
Paradise Lost, besides of course being a gem of literature, has one reason why it's important - it's basically the last work in the history of humankind of significance based on Ptolemaic view of the universe. It happened as we were on the verge of generally accepting the Copernican view. It being used in ED universe is specifically contrasting the two models. Funnily, ED universe is kind of weird in-between - galactic coordinates are originated in Sol rather than actual galactic center (Sag A*).
The station diagram sort of mixes two separate things which makes it odd.
On one end you have the big motif of Milton's universe: with the illustration on the left from Sprague's work, our universe in the middle, and whatever is on the right subject to interpretation. The thing to remember about Milton's universe and Ptolemaic universe in general is that the spheres were Sun, Moon, 5 planets, and starry sky, to which Milton added Crystalline and Primum Mobile spheres. It's unlikely in the same diagram there is Sun, Moon, or any other planet AND any depiction of the spheres - or whoever drew this doesn't understand the Ptolemaic universe.
However, then we have the body diagram embedded in it, which sort of runs parallel to the rest of it, which I find hard to ignore. Maybe the 6 bodies in line map the route to Heaven and you have to read it right to left (as depicted in those examples, but you could rotate it the other way around). You start at Hell's Gate, the small circle is anyone's guess, the larger with 6 trees may be indeed the "deepest void", then you have another stop before you cross into Sol, then you get to Earth, then in SOL you need to visit two specific bodies which leads you to Heaven's Gate which opens into Empyrean. I'll still maintain that the void is Pleiades and the Hell's Gate is Barnard's Loop. Earth is Earth, so the question becomes what of the other two things in SOL?
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yeah the only odd thing was the moon and planet placement but that wont be realigned until thursday.
Oh I went to that supposed thargoid active place too. it's not far from the system we are all checking. I didn't find nothing. No AX zones or anything. Not sure what that was about unless fdev made an oppsie placing ax zones by hand. I opted out of contribuiting to that stuff this time cause well. One of the leaders bothers the hell outta me.
I just had a talk with my youtuber friend of mine that records Elite. He said what happen to me and the AXCZ's That showed up might have all been connected as the timeline all matches up.
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very strange and see this--> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...-target-systems.612125/page-393#post-10573353 ... hmm.
