The Quest To Find Raxxla

Scytale

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Mmmhh... it seems that red dot "not visited" thing doesn't take account of visited systems prior to some patch.. I have a lot of them on systems I discovered, tagged and sold the data. I assume that red/blue dot patch wasn't retroactive.
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Doesn't explain the bookmark thing, though, but it must be related.
Anyway, a not very reliable feature for old Explorers... cough..
 
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bluecrash

bluecrash
Macros Black said:
No special attention, other than some killing spree fun :)
Edit: That is, if I manage to hit anything with these fixed weapons.
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I've started another approach to finding Raxxla. If it is in the game... then someone must of made it right? Let's look at their lead technical artists "Max Centra" to be specific, and his finest work, around the time Elite was released... that he cannot talk about because of NDA. I present to you the exploding Raxxlan robotics. I suspect the green cylinders in the back of the robots head are the bombs the lore talks about. If so, the Raxxla symbol is a warning sign. Raxxla is a trap.

Three may keep a Secret, if two of them are dead. -Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack (1735).
 

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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Scytale said:
Mmmhh... it seems that red dot "not visited" thing doesn't take account of visited systems prior to some patch.. I have a lot of them on systems I discovered, tagged and sold the data. I assume that red/blue dot patch wasn't retroactive.

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Doesn't explain the bookmark thing, though, but it must be related.
Anyway, a not very reliable feature for old Explorers... cough..
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did you perhaps play beta and these are systems you visited then that were not deleted on going to the released version?

As well as the bookmark issue, if galmap is also not reporting previously visited systems then you should most definitely raise a bug report!
Sounds like your database has become corrupted somehow.
 

Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
CMDR Maylor Rom said:
Interesting theory. Your a good detective as well. Examine the crime scene and the likely suspects.

The Raxxlan Robot looks like the "Borg". I pointed out in earlier threads that the Raxxla symbol looks like the symbols we use for radiation warnings.

But none of this will help us with the location of Raxxla, what it may be, or whether it is a trap.
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Along similar lines I've been looking into phenomena (mathematical mostly) that could help explain Raxxla.

What I was looking for.
"Raxxla is a place that isn't a place." This is correct if Raxxla is a gateway to other galaxies or universes. You wouldn't say a hallway between a bedroom and a bathroom is either the bedroom or the bathroom. Raxxla is a corridor/crossing!

"A door,.." This is rather straight forward if Raxxla is a gateway. A door to other places.

"...but also the key" However, this is rather cryptic. I suppose it reffers to what Raxxla is being used for.

So we have a corridor to other places used for unknown means.

So, Raxxla is a hidden Einstein-Rosen bridgelike thing with multiple entranceways/exits! Specifically the bridge itself. Neither the entrance, nor the exit. In between two points in space in time exists Raxxla.

However, this isn't the same as Witchspace. Nor is it what we see between jumps. It's its own thing.

Sadly, this doesn't narrow down our search much. We'd be looking for a wormhole entryway which would look like a massive (or not?) black hole with a toroidal singularity (or so states a possibly outdated theory on wormholes)...

Also, wormholes connect only two places in spacetime. However the theory behind wormholes could be bent quite a bit by a imaginative writer.
 
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xzanfr

xzanfr
xNicoyAx said:
Haven't tried to jump through the Maia system BH, but did play with the lensing effect on nearby Nebulas to see if anything would be unveiled.

Same result, everytime, unfortunately.

I'd give it a go, but I'm about 3-4hrs travel time from the bubble ATM. 😊
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I visited the bh in maia yesterday - nothing of special interest.
 

Scytale

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Jorki Rasalas said:
did you perhaps play beta and these are systems you visited then that were not deleted on going to the released version?
As well as the bookmark issue, if galmap is also not reporting previously visited systems then you should most definitely raise a bug report!
Sounds like your database has become corrupted somehow.
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These discoveries were made long before the 3.3 beta. (At that time I was shadowing The Boss and his mean gang of DECE throat-cutters in the outer rim, in order to prevent them finding Raxxla and then keeping it for themselves. And also, I must admit, because he is well known for setting up great campfires with nice music, tons of booze and a dozen of nude girls jumping over the fire... Very funnier than wishy-washy Dr Kai's and Co... Aaah... happy past times.) Yeah, some sort of corruption of the database, must be.Almost all of these red dots are systems I discovered, tagged and sold. The system map icons appear in white and I can open them.Funny!
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That red/blue dot feature just doesn't work in my game, at least with long time visited systems. Nobody else has the same issue?
Filthymick420 said:
I think by now it's obvious there a 50% chance of raxxla or not
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If so, there are tons of Raxxlas then... ;)
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Scytale said:
These discoveries were made long before the 3.3 beta. (At that time I was shadowing The Boss and his mean gang of DECE throat-cutters in the outer rim, in order to prevent them finding Raxxla and then keeping it for themselves. And also, I must admit, because he is well known for setting up great campfires with nice music, tons of booze and a dozen of nude girls jumping over the fire... Very funnier than wishy-washy Dr Kai's and Co... Aaah... happy past times.) Yeah, some sort of corruption of the database, must be.Almost all of these red dots are systems I discovered, tagged and sold. The system map icons appear in white and I can open them.Funny!
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That red/blue dot feature just doesn't work in my game, at least with long time visited systems. Nobody else has the same issue?

If so, there are tons of Raxxlas then... ;)
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My not/visited markers seem ok.
 

CMDR Poet Starwind

CMDR Poet Starwind
Jaiotu said:
If I were a betting man I'd put my money on that theory. In fact ... I have a very specific theory on that.

Spiraling stars: Point a camera at Polaris and leave it on time lapse. What do you get?
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Polaris, which is permit locked in Elite: Dangerous, played a key role in Frontier First Encounters (aka Elite: 3) in regards to the Thargoid story. When the player encounters the Thargoids at Polaris they use some kind of technology to create a portal to send the player a great distance away to the Thargoid homeworld. This portal is the closest thing in any of the Elite games that ever came close to matching the description Rafe Zetter gave of Raxxla. So, from my perspective, the key to finding Raxxla is unlocking Polaris.
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Not only does that look like somewhere you'd hear the whisperer in witchspace, I'd bet if you tilted the view toward Zeta Cass, the circles might look a bit more spiral-ier
 

FirmHandle

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Saw a post a few back that reminded me of 'Spiraling Stars' and it got me thinking; maybe they're referencing a Spiral Galaxy. After all, that would mean trillions of Stars, spiraling around a central point.
Also, anyone think that Thargoid ships look very similar to pin-wheels? 😉

(Please note, I'm just piecing together parts of the last 10 pages or so, so this might be a bit tinfoil hat-esque. All if not most of the points to follow are from their respective wikipedia pages).

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Pinwheel Galaxy - Wikipedia

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The Pinwheel Galaxy is part of the constellation Ursa Major, (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major) and one of the brighter Stars in said constellation is Alioth. Also in the constellation, the two supposed brightest Stars, are Dubhe and Merak which can be used as a navigational pointer towards another Star previously mentioned in this thread: Polaris (similar to the Thargoid Probe and Sensor pointing to an unknown system) This Star is a part of the constellation Ursa Minor. Ursa Major is noted to have over 20 Stars with planets.

Ursa Minor (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Minor), the beholder of Polaris, has two Stars called 'The Guardians of The Pole Star'. These are Kochab and Pherkad. Taking the 'Pole Star' to be Polaris this would again be eerily similar to the Thargoid Probe and Sensor pointing to an unknown system with Polaris being involved somehow. Ursa Minor is noted to have only four Stars with planets.

Might be worth checking out if it hasn't already been done.

There are several other Spiral Galaxies mentioned online, but the pinwheel caught my attention because of Thargoid ship structure similarities to a 'pinwheel'.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
 
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Edelgard von Rhein

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Han_Zen said:
Personally I think that Princess Astrophel and the spiraling stars simply points to this region of the sky:
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Vega being princess Astrophel and the visible Milky Way are the spiraling stars.

Raxxla is somewhere in the triangle, I guess?
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This makes some sense, especially considering that Vega is a previous and future pole star, from Earth.
That would imply that the mention of Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars in the Codex is just to get us to recognise the significance of Vega and that analysis of the poem itself is not relevant to the Quest for Raxxla.

If the above is true, then there are two systems that have a clear significance to the Quest. Tau Ceti, where the first recorded mention of Raxxla originated, and now Vega. Are there any others? If not, is there anything en route between them? If there is, do they form a pattern (not in-game to answer this this evening)?
 

Rochester

Rochester
Han_Zen said:
Personally I think that Princess Astrophel and the spiraling stars simply points to this region of the sky:
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Vega being princess Astrophel and the visible Milky Way are the spiraling stars.

Raxxla is somewhere in the triangle, I guess?
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This has been floating about my cabin for some time....

"The Celestial Lyre

Some versions of Orpheus's translation say that the Muses "grac'd his lyre with nine stars,"(5) presumably because they were seen to be the source of divinely inspired music, song, and dance. Which stars might have been meant by this statement is not made clear. Yet in the knowledge that in some parts of Greece there were only three Muses,(6) and not nine, there is every chance that this lost asterism included the three bright stars making up the Summer Triangle, with these being Vega in Lyra, Deneb in Cygnus, and Altair in Aquila. This conclusion is strengthened by the knowledge that originally the lyre, which in classical times looked like a letter "U" strung either horizontally or vertically with strings, might originally have been triangular in shape.

Orphic scholar Johann Gesner first made this observation in 1764 following the discovery of a picture showing an archaic form of the lyra at the ruins of Herculaneum in Italy.(7) This would make it more similar in appearance to the harp, a stringed instrument used extensively in European countries such as Ireland, Scotland and Wales. However, the oldest depictions of triangular harps come not from Europe, but from Egypt, where they appear on the walls of tombs as early as 2500 BCE. The famous Queen's Lyre unearthed by Sir Leonard Woolley and his team during excavations within the royal cemetery of Ur in Lower Iraq, and dating to ca. 2500 BCE,(8) is also triangular in shape. This style of instrument, which utilizes the seven-note musical scale, might thus have influenced the development of the Greek lyre and European harp in later ages. Both the triangular form of the lyre and that of the harp bear a striking likeness to the outline formed by the stars making up the Summer Triangle. This suggests very strongly that the Summer Triangle was the original celestial lyre, and not the constellation of Lyra, which bears very little resemblance to the musical instrument in question.

How exactly the area of sky marked by the Summer Triangle came to be associated with the music of the spheres, and its expression through the musical intervals of the seven-note scale is a greater mystery. One possible clue is the Cygnus constellation's identification as the celestial swan, a bird whose call has been intimately associated with music and song, as well as death and rebirth in the next world, since Palaeolithic times (The Cygnus Key)" Soul of the World: The Sweet Swans of Maeonia.
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Edelgard von Rhein said:
This makes some sense, especially considering that Vega is a previous and future pole star, from Earth.
That would imply that the mention of Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars in the Codex is just to get us to recognise the significance of Vega and that analysis of the poem itself is not relevant to the Quest for Raxxla.

If the above is true, then there are two systems that have a clear significance to the Quest. Tau Ceti, where the first recorded mention of Raxxla originated, and now Vega. Are there any others? If not, is there anything en route between them? If there is, do they form a pattern (not in-game to answer this this evening)?
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I think the Dark Wheel toast may have a different reference point.
I have some tests to do, to confirmed that this isn’t pure nonsence.
If there is something to this, the two lines should cross somwhere.
 
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