The Quest To Find Raxxla

Scytale

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Actually, some people say they heard from some obscure FDev that the Raxxla plot is to be played in Open...
I hope they are wrong or it's a hoax.
But if true, that would explain a lot of things.
 

yelboc

yelboc
Scytale said:
Actually, some people say they heard from some obscure FDev that the Raxxla plot is to be played in Open...
I hope they are wrong or it's a hoax.
But if true, that would explain a lot of things.
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With the current ganker's paradise - that'll be tough. I popped my head into open in Shindez the other week - I lasted about 40 secs - still I found out what its like :)

Gonna "have to get an iron a*** " if we have to play in open..

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if R. involves human interaction with FD, then you would have to be in open.
 

Scytale

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No but sort of. A Discord channel, iirc... Couple of years ago.
Anyway...
But again, it could explain a lot of things and allow floating NPCs... Elyssia Fields ?
 

[PS4] Filthymick420

[PS4] Filthymick420
A few ideas I have about possible criteria and tests of courage and skill might be the guardian and thargoid sites, all of the different generation ships, surface settlement sites like dav's hope, Crash sites tourist beacons and listening posts. I'm sure there are some things I missed but perhaps a triple elite cmdr having tackled all of those difficult tasks may be closer to getting that tdw invitation.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Filthymick420 said:
A few ideas I have about possible criteria and tests of courage and skill might be the guardian and thargoid sites, all of the different generation ships, surface settlement sites like dav's hope, Crash sites tourist beacons and listening posts. I'm sure there are some things I missed but perhaps a triple elite cmdr having tackled all of those difficult tasks may be closer to getting that tdw invitation.
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Remember Raxxla (and presumable TDW) has been in game since gamma. That rules out ANY surface sites, tourist beacons, and probably most of the listening posts.
 

Scytale

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yelboc said:
what do you mean by 'floating'?
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Better you figure out yourself... Such a teribble Anglich here, I wouldn't like to misinterpret. ;)
No, they're not. I have occasionally 'flown' Alessia, but she's sorting a floating NPC for lore usage. :)

Cheers,

Drew.
 

yelboc

yelboc
CMDR Maylor Rom said:
DB and MB claim there will be no clues, and that Raxxla exists and only FDev knows where it is.

So, above bug fixes, above new content, above new ships and cosmedics, and above all else, we have some undiscovered code and game mechanics, which only FDev has tested and knows about, possibly linked to missions (which have been bugged for some time) which may reveal a very small trail of bread crumbs for only those who meet very special criteria, i.e. Elite, Courage, Honor, Rank, Status, Skill, or who are smart enough to "read between the lines" and link all the disparate pieces of the lore together and actually find Raxxla.

I think it very much more likely that FDev had no plan for inclusion of some very detailed or undiscovered code and game mechanics for Raxxla at all. I also believe that Raxxla and it's story line from DW and others, which existed well before this game reboot was never considered to be part of this game release, and if FDev has included any code or game mechanics for Raxxla, it was a complete afterthought based on everyone's feelings derived from previously written lore form previous editions of Elite.

In other words, the lore from previous releases of Elite (1984/86) contained references of Raxxla, therefore the reboot of Elite (2014) must contain, or might include, the same lore and since this is a new release of Elite, the author DB, most likely included or continued the lore of Raxxla in this version of the game, when in fact Raxxla was never considered or included or even thought of, for this release of Elite.

Only after this version of Elite was released, and commanders started writing lore for this version, was the lore of Raxxla revisited. Then some commanders started looking for it, questioning it's existance and only then, a year or two after the game was released, but before Horizons came out, did someone from Frontier, i.e. DB and MB make any statement on the matter, and only to give some vague claim that Raxxla is in the game and only we (Fdev) know where it is.

In conclusion, my opinion is that we all wanted the lore of previous versions to be true and hoped it would be in this new release of Elite, when it never was and never planned by Frontier to be. But as any good rumor, the belief and spread of this fable may have influenced DB and MB to continue this rumor (for marketing and advertising sake), about the game and do something with it in future releases and updates.

I don't believe Raxxla, or the lore of Raxxla currently exists in this game today. There is no proof it exists what-so-ever. DB and MB are just playing on the community's mistaken belief and desire for this to be included in the game, because of nothing more than rumor and previous lore from the previous release of Elite. The community believes in the legend and wants it to be true.

Like the saying goes, when the truth becomes legend, print the legend.

o7....
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I refer you to the conversation between two english gentlemen (David Braben and Drew Wagar) in a pub where R.'s existence was confirmed. What more proof can you have than that ? :cool:

sure - take the blue pill if you prefer.
 

Vetinari

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Disclaimer - I'm not sure anymore what is old lore and what is ret-conned current lore. I'm not sure how much is Frontier created lore and how much is player speculated / created lore, although I suspect a lot is the latter thinking there is proper war-gaming when there might not be.

Drew Wagar himself revealed the conversation. hate to throw some facts in but:

DW asked DB 'Does Raxxla exist in game?' or a very similar question. DB said 'Raxxla exists and we know where it is' - DW added the context 'at Frontier' to distinguish between himself and 'Fdev' when retelling the story (I hope / think), other people have added the context 'we alone know where it is', DW I think has said something like only a few people at Fdev will know the secret but I think that is his understanding of how Fdev works and just adds context to his 'we at fdev' to try and make it clearer what he understood by the statement , as in his understanding / opinion it wouldn't be many at Fdev who know. Not least because by then he had been misquoted a dozen times and the misquotes became lore. Sorry Drew if this is completely wrong, I'm not having a go I'm just saying the original quote in isolation from DB in response to a question 'Does Raxxla exist in game? was 'Raxxla exists and we know where it is' Any context added after is by somebody else is all I am saying...

DW does not know where Raxxla is - just a fact and I'd be sick of having to say that by now if I was him. I believe he believes it would be 'confidential' information at Frontier in that business environment and therefore only a few relevant people would know, could even be DB and 1 or 2 programmers/coders/developers. That would be a perfectly normal analysis by anyone who understands business and was almost certainly his experience working with them. Anybody who thinks DW would be included in that circle is mistaken, not because he cant be trusted but because business is business. We are all treated like this at work, we have access to confidential information that is limited to our Need To Know.
 

yelboc

yelboc
CMDR Maylor Rom said:
You have proof of such a conversation, in a pub, where someone easedropping, overheard a conversation and then reported it as fact?

Thanks, but I don't take pills without good reason.....
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I'm pretty sure he mentions it in his stream

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AsfgQqbRKM


if not its still an interesting backgrounder <edit> about 57:40

Drew's own theories have not been any more fruitful than anyone elses..
 
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yelboc

yelboc
DB and MB claim there will be no clues,
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folk keep saying this. Its old and said by someone out of the picture now. That might have been right then, but we have the codex now, which is probably as a result of no-one finding it for 4 years or more...

this is becoming tedious - if you don't want to believe in R. then this thread is probably not for you (to quote a previous contribution)

For myself, I've found that following this quest has been a learning experience and has driven me to experience more of the game than I might have. I've had a lot of fun and learnt some stuff, which is cool. I intend to carry on if I can find some threads to pull on.

o7
 

Oseris

Oseris
I’m running into a bit of an anomaly here, with a couple points of interest. Stumbled upon a system called EM* LKHA 361.

The asterisk is usual. It was used when naming Sag a* because the radio signal was “exciting” and atoms in an excited state are denoted with an asterisk. Apparently there are a couple other systems that use the asterisk besides Sag A.

Further, it’s a permit locked system, in a permit locked region by the cone sector, however EDSM is showing 1 ship passing thru in the last 7 days.

Is this suspicious?

Edit: There’s also a giant gap next to it that’s almost entirely void of any stars, in a region where it’s pretty consistently cluttered.
 
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