The Quest To Find Raxxla

"This area of space is freaking me out. Could have sworn I heard some weird voices in the last jump."
"The lights in witch-space are coming for me, the lights… always the lights… they’re calling to me… a siren song… I must join them…"
"It’s an apt name, some of the guys are going space crazy out here in the void."
Any of this sound familiar from a RAXXLA perspective. I think I'm going to postpone my trip around the rim and head out there. I think that there is a good chance we were meant to find Raxxla during the Rift mystery.

EDIT: Whispers in witch space. Sirens in the Void. Club/Rift mystery aside - WHY is this not our primary objective for investigation into Raxxla. Yes, I know there will be no clues, but this is a pretty big one, if you ask me! Or specifically, the codex entry is telling us we missed Raxxla when we were in the Rift!

Is this not a tiny bit obvious, so we know what we are doing???
I stopped playing the game, but there is a triangle star setup you can find near one of the named stars in the middle of the orion hot dog I never got back to. You can see it in witch space as you jump. It's near the actual little nebual on the side facing the barnards loop.

Maybe someday I'll get back to trying to completely explore each of the massive hotdogs. I was really hoping for a way to see which systems had unexplored stuff in it because I died and lost 2/3ds of the one I was exploreing once and got tired of doing it after that.

I don't know why we can't have simple tools to help with mistakes. This game is it's own worst enemy.

That timeline leans very strongly on two assumptions:

1. There are clues
2. FDev want us to find Raxxla soon

It also takes as a starting point the idea that FD wanted to entangle the only two mysteries in the game at release - which makes absolutely no sense to me.
Maybe they have preexisting story line they want to play out as the entire point of the game. Could explain the games iceberg slow development.

The "Reptilian Raxxla" thing is a very old hoax. You can't find much information about it or the original story in english, because this magazine is not english. It's being mixed up with various russian versions of elite, which unlike the legend, though likely original inspiration for it, actually were real, ingenious, and totally unofficial.

Drew probably has his own version of Raxxla. DB either has his own also, or is confused about all the fuss, because it never was something one should seriously go searching for, perhaps a mix of these two. How are legends born?
No the original raxxla reptile thing is from books and artwork that predates elite 1984 and the game takes inspiration from at minimum.
 
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You may be correct, but at this point it makes the most sense to myself personally.. and I think once the portal opens.. we will see a third alien race soon in the game.. it only makes sense. Humanity will need the fleet carriers to protect the bubble as we will be dragged into a full out war...
 
So....

Was thinking about it being a 'personal journey' and the various things that could mean. And it brought me back to the rogue planet idea again. If it is a rogue planet and it's location doesn't stay the same. That could work as it being a different journey for different people because it's not in the same place.

Maybe once found it's not easy to find again, other than a general idea of the vast area it was last time you saw it. This could also be how someone from the dark wheel may have once found it but they still don't know where it is.

I know it's kind of a reach but so is most of this until something is confirmed in some way. Which probably won't be
 
So....

Was thinking about it being a 'personal journey' and the various things that could mean. And it brought me back to the rogue planet idea again. If it is a rogue planet and it's location doesn't stay the same. That could work as it being a different journey for different people because it's not in the same place.

Maybe once found it's not easy to find again, other than a general idea of the vast area it was last time you saw it. This could also be how someone from the dark wheel may have once found it but they still don't know where it is.

I know it's kind of a reach but so is most of this until something is confirmed in some way. Which probably won't be
Imagine finding Raxxla at 7.45 in a Thursday morning.....then the server ticks and it's gone again, before you can do anything with it :LOL:
 
Its Pete A Carter
Pete, a transporter of goods ;)

Incidentally I am now a (less than proud) owner of a copy of the Alien World
(the less than proud bit is i am pretty sure that selling used books online these days is just a way to dump all the smoke riddled ones that no one buys in the store, but other than the stench are in "great condition")

anyhoo i know its been shown before but here is Holdstocks Map showing his fantasy universe including the Oisir-Raxla sector :
140229
Which "lies on the Human side of the Night Wall, the immense barrier of time and space distortion that has resulted from the passage of a subspace galaxy...
this biozone (The Oisir-Raxxla Sector) comprises less than 2000 galaxies, clustered tightly almost into a circle, boarded by the Tharana Void and the Delvonne Void, where there is instability in the fabric of space itself. It is separated from the Human Sector by the Urgenirk Darks, a straggling line of vast black holes lined up along 40 millilon IEons drawing dense strands of dark gass from the Night Wall. This has meant that Human contact with the Oisir-Raxxla has been minimal despite the proximity of the Sectors."
The blue bit beyond the yellow "Night Wall" is the Naranthu Sector where the galaxy of the Dark Wheel is...

If i had to pick a childrens book to look for "cunningly concealed facts about the mysterious locale" of raxxla...
 
I'm wondering now about the criteria needed to find Raxxla. See if you agree with any of these.

1) Must be Elite, Triple Elite, or Elite in just Combat?
2) Must have a Founders Permit, or other systems permit?
3) Must play in Open?
4) Locked behind a permit we can't get? (not in the game yet)?
5) Must have an engineered Exploration or Surface scanner, to see the DW?

Just interested in anyone's opinion on the criteria needed?

o7...
1) No. Those would be Dark Wheel criteria. I'm guessing that just Elite will do for TDW. Possibly connected to to the Founders permit.
2) Not unless Raxxla is in that permit locked system.
3) Doubt it. Unless they have an actor on standby, to welcome you. ;)
4) Possibly
5) No. Scanners want help you. Engineered or not. Only eyes will do.
 
My opinion:

1. Maybe - but it's only one of many criteria, given how many Elite and Triple Elite players are out there
2. Founders goes with 1.*
3. No
4. No*
5. No

* My theory is that Raxxla is permit-locked and the route to obtaining that permit is via TDW.
Should be a sector permit then. If TDW knows the system, they should have found it by now.
 
Every inch of Eafots has been covered by 1000s of CMDRs. There is nothing in the rift that hasn't already been found.....

Well I reached the CoR tourist beacon this morning. Then plotted a short route, 11 jumps directly above the galactic plane. On only my second jump.....39 bodies, 5 discovered, 0 mapped. That includes multiple moons with more biological and geological sites that you can shake a stick at, which no human has ever been near.

Weather I find Raxxla or not, I already feel somewhat vindicated! ;-)
 
Wasn't it pretty clear in Premonition, that the engineers are backed by the Club?
Moles ! Moles ! I see moles everywhere ! Help !

Btw, who can say what part of the "continuation will be played out in the game" is/has been actually played ? Mmmh?
(Really interesting to us would be the part which has not already been played..)
 
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Moles ! Moles ! I see moles everywhere ! Help !

Btw, who can say what part of the "continuation will be played out in the game" is/has been actually played ? Mmmh?
(Really interesting to us would be the part which has not already been played..)
I think only two engineers were confirmed by Premonition as having links to the Club: Elvira Martuk and Bill Turner. Still trust Felicity, want Lori’s phone number, Palin definitely untrustworthy.

the other evening was watching a dvd of a 1970s tv series (Lotus Eaters) where a woman went mad, saw tarantulas everywhere, and killed her spouse with a cricket bat to swat the spiders on him. Everyone in Scytale’s family- quickly remove any cricket bats from his vicinity! Perhaps he’s been reading Wind in the Willows late at night after wine & cheese 😉

It might be that Raxxla is indeed within the bubble. There are a couple of locked systems there with no apparent source of the permit; Witches Reach (I think) springs to mind, but there is also an unpopulated system quite close to Shinrarta which I’ve had suspicions over. Since there is no faction there it seems impossible to get the permit, but possibly there is a route via TDW? (Edit: and Raxxla or TDW station might well be hidden in an unpopulated system). Having a permit-locked system would be an easy way for DB to be able to say they knew why nobody had found Raxxla- they know that nobody has the permit. It would be easy programming to monitor personal status and flag up an alarm when somebody gets a specific permit.
In which case in the Codex the DW toast, Omphalos, & Astrophel would all be filler with no substance.... discuss!

P.s. I’m friendly with all engineers (inc Colonia) but the new one, l5 with all but one I think (l3 with one in Colonia), but never received any invite. I think this line of thought is a red herring.
 
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I think only two engineers were confirmed by Premonition as having links to the Club: Elvira Martuk and Bill Turner. Still trust Felicity, want Lori’s phone number, Palin definitely untrustworthy.
Only two confirmed, but his comment by Infrastructure made me think the Club was behind the entire concept:
"
‘Of course not,’ Infrastructure gestured expansively. ‘What do you think
all this was about? The clandestine technology acquisition aimed at ensuring
that necessary advances took place according to a certain timetable, fanning
the flames of war between the Federation and the Empire to ensure humanity
has a fleet that has a chance in the coming battle. The encouragement of the
space-faring masses to grow their skills in the Arena and weaponise their ships
courtesy of those oh-so-convenient “Engineers.” We don’t intend to allow
humanity to be cannon fodder in someone else’s war.

"
 
P.s. I’m friendly with all engineers (inc Colonia) but the new one, l5 with all but one I think (l3 with one in Colonia), but never received any invite. I think this line of thought is a red herring.
Yeah I agree. I only mentioned it because it came up in conversation. Plus, I asked on a separate thread last night if anybody has grade 5 with all engineers. They do and it apparently unlocks nothing.
 
G5 + 3E + King/Adm + Permits +TDW rep + Lot of discoveries + Lot of Ly +...
Maybe not so many players.
But that wouldn't match with that 2014 statement by DB... Who at that time could have summed all these ? Besides, there weren't Engineers..
 
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Polaris.


I'm jealous of that book you have, simulacrae. It's funny because I remember having that book as a child. My uncle played frontier elite on the commodore 64 and I don't think he had any idea there was a connection
Exactly the same as me. My uncle got me into gaming and Elite from 1984. He also had the book which he eventually gave to me ( probably had no idea it was linked with Elite ) I still have the book which is right on my desk now.
 
So, looking at the map posted by Simulacrae, I've noticed that the the human sector goes up and touches (or in some way you "enter") into the Devil's Shroud (The blue smokey-looking clouds). The Oisir-Raxla sector also looks to reach out to the Devil's Shroud. The Black Holes are also showing to be a way "into" said Shroud.
 
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