Suspect not- Polaris is too tied in historically with the Thargoids, & Luna is too intimately tied to Earth. Raxxla was supposed to be a wandering planet & if Luna disappeared the effect on Earth would be catastrophic as it has a stabilising effect on Earth’s orbit; FD try to stick to scientific plausibility. Besides Luna was mapped pretty closely for the Apollo programme so any alien structures would have been found. Mars is a possibility perhaps; does it have Phobos & Deimos in-game? Seem to remember some comment IRL that one of those may have been captured (DBOBE is quite keen on real astronomy). Merope 5C seems like it was captured but that’s too tied in with Thargoids again, and we’d have spotted alien structures there by now.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Suspect not- Polaris is too tied in historically with the Thargoids, & Luna is too intimately tied to Earth. Raxxla was supposed to be a wandering planet & if Luna disappeared the effect on Earth would be catastrophic as it has a stabilising effect on Earth’s orbit; FD try to stick to scientific plausibility. Besides Luna was mapped pretty closely for the Apollo programme so any alien structures would have been found. Mars is a possibility perhaps; does it have Phobos & Deimos in-game? Seem to remember some comment IRL that one of those may have been captured (DBOBE is quite keen on real astronomy). Merope 5C seems like it was captured but that’s too tied in with Thargoids again, and we’d have spotted alien structures there by now.
As an aside, following the Steven Eisler (Robert Holdstock) origin of Raxxla, I found this mentioned in a Google search from his book "The Alien World":
"The Eye Of The Beholder. A Raxxlan projection which appeared above the primitive world Winter D, populated by sentient, but unadvanced insectoids. The Eye became an overwhelming symbol of the evil that stared from the heavens, so disorienting the creatures that the Oisir-Raxxla were able to build their structure and depart without life being lost."
(http://ski-ffy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/alien-world-complete-illustrated-guide.html)
I don't suppose that could have anything to do with the genesis of The Thargoids?
"The Eye Of The Beholder. A Raxxlan projection which appeared above the primitive world Winter D, populated by sentient, but unadvanced insectoids. The Eye became an overwhelming symbol of the evil that stared from the heavens, so disorienting the creatures that the Oisir-Raxxla were able to build their structure and depart without life being lost."
(http://ski-ffy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/alien-world-complete-illustrated-guide.html)
I don't suppose that could have anything to do with the genesis of The Thargoids?
Get your tinfoil hats.
It's in Betelgeuse.
Tharg the Mighty was from there. He called it Quaxxann.
Guy is a green alien, has a small white mohawk, a circular feature on his forehead associated with Sirius, and can run off plastic. The analogies are clear, obviously he's a Thargoid or a Tharglet gone awry.
Long story short; homage, references, one-upping, and selective copying was very common, as it is today. However...
A fan of several fictional but loosely similar stories, a natural dreamer, would pass idle time thinking about each series and the possibilities. The perceptive of them would see ways they could appear to cross over without actually crossing over. The writers of them would make it so.
Finally, the readers would go wild with what-ifs, "unknowns," dreaming, for example, about how and why Tharg the Mighty is really a Thargoid/let.
And so on.
It's in Betelgeuse.
Tharg the Mighty was from there. He called it Quaxxann.
Guy is a green alien, has a small white mohawk, a circular feature on his forehead associated with Sirius, and can run off plastic. The analogies are clear, obviously he's a Thargoid or a Tharglet gone awry.
You know, I'm starting to think modern fans of sci-fi have no perspective of how the genre came about and blossomed. There was a very creative, and often as eccentric, underground. I have only just put the image together in words, but still don't always see it.
Long story short; homage, references, one-upping, and selective copying was very common, as it is today. However...
A fan of several fictional but loosely similar stories, a natural dreamer, would pass idle time thinking about each series and the possibilities. The perceptive of them would see ways they could appear to cross over without actually crossing over. The writers of them would make it so.
Finally, the readers would go wild with what-ifs, "unknowns," dreaming, for example, about how and why Tharg the Mighty is really a Thargoid/let.
And so on.
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I don't know if you saw my last reply to the last time you floated the "Tharg the Mighty" idea
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...foil-Hattery?p=6144116&viewfull=1#post6144116 The name "Thargoid" had it's origins in the 70's : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Kremmen
Robert Holdstock who wrote TDW, Under the pseudonym Steven Eisler contributed to this in 1980: http://ski-ffy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/alien-world-complete-illustrated-guide.html if you scroll a bit you'll see the name Raxxla, and a word that's pretty similar to Oresrian "Oriathan". Since Holdstocks TDW influenced much of the mythos of ED, he's responsible for some of the names
I do love the reference to Thatcher though. I suspect Everett might have named his reptilian enemies because of that, and if not, I bet he's looking down on us now wishing he'd through of it
I don't know if you saw my last reply to the last time you floated the "Tharg the Mighty" idea
All I remember of Captain Kremmen, from an annual my Dad seemed to have when I was a kid, was 'sexy' alien stuff...
You still haven't figured out my sense of humour yet have you? ;-)
Tharg was the alien editor of 2000AD?
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I’m sorry, what’s a “sense of humour”?
Wait, you're not the Thargoid one in disguise are you?
Not me. Haven’t seen him/her around for a while.
Hypothesis: Raxxla is (in)Sirius.
Names:
The names Raxxla and Sirius are similar in buildup. Both have six letters and two letter pairs. A simple two step encryption will encode Sirius -> Raxxla:
- Byte rotation, with three characters/byte gives sirius -> rissui.
- Substitution r=r, i=a, s=x and u=l rissui -> raxxla.
Door/Gateway:
Ancient Egyptians considered Sirius to be the most important star and a gateway to the 'other world'. They would not bury their dead during the 70 days each year, Sirius was invisible below the horizon. The gateway was not open.
A properly performed mummification takes 70 day, to mimic this period.
Key:
Sirius is also known as Alpha Canis Major. An official abbreviation of Canis Major is 'CMaj'. This is also an abbreviation for the musical Key 'C Major'.
Other silly stuff:
- Planet called 'Waypoint'. Waypoint to what?
- Planet called 'Lucifer', meaning 'light-bringing'.
- Antares crashed mysteriously, when exiting the system.
- Sirius is controlled by 'powerful, twisted men. Powerful enough to hire an assassin to kill the threat to their dominance.'(ask Ran Corsen).
If you start to wander in to the more alternative regions of the internet, there are of course countless claims for Sirius' magical properties, celestial bodies and inhabitants. It also has a significance in most ancient cultures. Egyptians and Dogons were particularly fixated on this star. I will not go further into that.
So, what do you think? Is something obfuscated in the outer rim of the Sirius system? Are there other clues I have overlooked?
Names:
The names Raxxla and Sirius are similar in buildup. Both have six letters and two letter pairs. A simple two step encryption will encode Sirius -> Raxxla:
- Byte rotation, with three characters/byte gives sirius -> rissui.
- Substitution r=r, i=a, s=x and u=l rissui -> raxxla.
Door/Gateway:
Ancient Egyptians considered Sirius to be the most important star and a gateway to the 'other world'. They would not bury their dead during the 70 days each year, Sirius was invisible below the horizon. The gateway was not open.
A properly performed mummification takes 70 day, to mimic this period.
Key:
Sirius is also known as Alpha Canis Major. An official abbreviation of Canis Major is 'CMaj'. This is also an abbreviation for the musical Key 'C Major'.
Other silly stuff:
- Planet called 'Waypoint'. Waypoint to what?
- Planet called 'Lucifer', meaning 'light-bringing'.
- Antares crashed mysteriously, when exiting the system.
- Sirius is controlled by 'powerful, twisted men. Powerful enough to hire an assassin to kill the threat to their dominance.'(ask Ran Corsen).
If you start to wander in to the more alternative regions of the internet, there are of course countless claims for Sirius' magical properties, celestial bodies and inhabitants. It also has a significance in most ancient cultures. Egyptians and Dogons were particularly fixated on this star. I will not go further into that.
So, what do you think? Is something obfuscated in the outer rim of the Sirius system? Are there other clues I have overlooked?
Hypothesis: Raxxla is (in)Sirius.
Names:
The names Raxxla and Sirius are similar in buildup. Both have six letters and two letter pairs. A simple two step encryption will encode Sirius -> Raxxla:
- Byte rotation, with three characters/byte gives sirius -> rissui.
- Substitution r=r, i=a, s=x and u=l rissui -> raxxla.
Door/Gateway:
Ancient Egyptians considered Sirius to be the most important star and a gateway to the 'other world'. They would not bury their dead during the 70 days each year, Sirius was invisible below the horizon. The gateway was not open.
A properly performed mummification takes 70 day, to mimic this period.
Key:
Sirius is also known as Alpha Canis Major. An official abbreviation of Canis Major is 'CMaj'. This is also an abbreviation for the musical Key 'C Major'.
Other silly stuff:
- Planet called 'Waypoint'. Waypoint to what?
- Planet called 'Lucifer', meaning 'light-bringing'.
- Antares crashed mysteriously, when exiting the system.
- Sirius is controlled by 'powerful, twisted men. Powerful enough to hire an assassin to kill the threat to their dominance.'(ask Ran Corsen).
If you start to wander in to the more alternative regions of the internet, there are of course countless claims for Sirius' magical properties, celestial bodies and inhabitants. It also has a significance in most ancient cultures. Egyptians and Dogons were particularly fixated on this star. I will not go further into that.
So, what do you think? Is something obfuscated in the outer rim of the Sirius system? Are there other clues I have overlooked?
Sirius has always been a pioneer of Hyperspace travel. It's possible that those early colony ships discovered some alien technology in the system and decided to keep a secret and monopolise it - something like a Hypergate - that's possibly where the myths of Raxxla come from. The tourist beacon says "In 2339 a commercial colonial expedition reached the unusual binary Sirius system. The colonisation was the first solely corporate colonial mission and the company rapidly rose to become the premier supplier of drive fuel throughout human space."
Did that expedition come from Sol? Is there anything in the Sirius system heading in the direction of Sol (up to, say, 2 million ls out)? If Sirius was the primary supplier of fuel in that period, then it also makes me wonder if (m)any Generation Ships began their journey there rather than in Sol.
I believe Sirius was colonised directly from Sol in the original expansion phase. I'm not sure if anyone has explored the Sirius-Sol line, but I'm taking a trip to Alioth later this week so I'll swing by and have a look
The ambiguity in the details about early space travel are annoying because we also know that early hyperspace tech relied on Quirium (but when that started is vague). Quirium was linked with GalCop, but it's hard to know whether the fuel referenced in the tourist beacon at Sirius related to conventional drives, or whether it meant hyperdrives, and if so, might it mean that Sirius supplied Quirium? If we're speculating that Sirius is Raxxla, it's possible they lost access to the gate(?) That they used to acquire the Quirium catalyst...
The ambiguity in the details about early space travel are annoying because we also know that early hyperspace tech relied on Quirium (but when that started is vague). Quirium was linked with GalCop, but it's hard to know whether the fuel referenced in the tourist beacon at Sirius related to conventional drives, or whether it meant hyperdrives, and if so, might it mean that Sirius supplied Quirium? If we're speculating that Sirius is Raxxla, it's possible they lost access to the gate(?) That they used to acquire the Quirium catalyst...
I believe Sirius was colonised directly from Sol in the original expansion phase. I'm not sure if anyone has explored the Sirius-Sol line, but I'm taking a trip to Alioth later this week so I'll swing by and have a look
The ambiguity in the details about early space travel are annoying because we also know that early hyperspace tech relied on Quirium (but when that started is vague). Quirium was linked with GalCop, but it's hard to know whether the fuel referenced in the tourist beacon at Sirius related to conventional drives, or whether it meant hyperdrives, and if so, might it mean that Sirius supplied Quirium? If we're speculating that Sirius is Raxxla, it's possible they lost access to the gate(?) That they used to acquire the Quirium catalyst...
Sirius corporation produced Military Fuel on Lucifer. This was anti-matter based fuel and therefor much more energetic that hydrogen fusion.
The trick was to store a stable atom of anti-matter within a complex molecule and use it as a fuel. The production started in 2350. Probably long before GalCop or Quirium saw the light of day.
In FFE there was an ongoing 'Ban Military Drives' campaign. This seem to have succeeded, as there hasn't been a single mention of Military Fuel in ED.
Both the Argent's Quest and the pilotable Thargoid war ship used Military Fuel.
Now this is the Han Zen we all know and love and haven't seen for a while. Out of rep, +1.
10 songs in C Major Scale:
Song 1 - Ode To Joy
Song 2 - Lean On Me - Bill Withers
Song 3 - Falling Slowly - Glen Hansard
Song 4 - Happy Birthday
Song 5 - The Chain Fleetwood Mac (UK F1 Theme)
Song 6 - When The Saints Go Marching In
Song 7 - La Bamba
Song 8 - Rhiannon - Fleetwood Mac
Song 9 - Mr Tambourine Man Lead Line
Song 10 - Let Her Go by Passenger
When the Saints Come Marching In is also When the Spurs Come Marching In. The Gateway to Raxxla could be White Hart Lane. Alternatively, there is also the William Shatner version of Mr. Tambourine Man, perhaps there is a vital clue hidden there? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0hTtsqiFCc
Yeah, problem is we have no real idea of how much of that (if any) is still accurate.
Military fuel was really only relevant for the 2b hyperdrives (in any version of Lore) - so Sirius making Military drive fuel from 2350 doesn't really fit unless you speculate that there's always been a military version of the hyperdrive and each version uses the same fuel, and if that were true then the Quirium drive-issues that caused the development and use of the 2b in the 3200's would have been unnecessary.
We have no references to the Military drive in ED at all that I'm aware of - and no specific evidence that military ships don't use the FSD just like commercial ships.
Oh dear, as sad a case of space madness as I’ve seen, White Hart Lane indeed!
clearly Raxxla is in a black hole (you may fall in but the time dilation makes it appear as though you never reach it) which you must enter on your birthday after celebrating by drinking several large Lavian brandies (Raxxla was in Lave for one timeline, and you need to lean) while handcuffed (chains) and stood atop a funeral pyre (saints burned as heretics), within your ship named La Bamba, playing a tambourine while singing Ode to Joy (in German). You need to be preceded by a female companion (let her go) named Rhiannon.
Sheesh, no wonder we haven’t found it so far!
Meanwhile at Fdev HQ:
Fdev forum checker: "Oh man, someone on the Raxxla thread has cracked it!"
Fdev boss: "What? That's impossible!"
Fdev forum checker: "No, seriously, they've worked it out!"
Fdev boss: "Nooo, they got the bit about the birthday?"
Fdev forum checker: "YES!"
Fdev boss: "And the bit about the Lavian Brandy?"
Fdev forum checker: "YES! and the bit about the tambourine..."
Fdev boss (on phone): "Sir, it's a code White... Yes... yes the bit about Rhiannon.... yes, that too... yes... Yes Sir Braben, I'm logging in right now to derail it before they realise, yes Sir, don't worry, we'll contain it..."
Fdev forum checker: "Oh man, someone on the Raxxla thread has cracked it!"
Fdev boss: "What? That's impossible!"
Fdev forum checker: "No, seriously, they've worked it out!"
Fdev boss: "Nooo, they got the bit about the birthday?"
Fdev forum checker: "YES!"
Fdev boss: "And the bit about the Lavian Brandy?"
Fdev forum checker: "YES! and the bit about the tambourine..."
Fdev boss (on phone): "Sir, it's a code White... Yes... yes the bit about Rhiannon.... yes, that too... yes... Yes Sir Braben, I'm logging in right now to derail it before they realise, yes Sir, don't worry, we'll contain it..."