Guys but you missed my question, did you try tos tream by vnc/rdp or whatever are sharing desktop clients?
If it is too slow or anything else wrong, maybe i should save own time trying to repeat.
Thought you asked about VR and Google Cardboard? Don’t know anything about streaming, but there is/usd to be a couple of forum threads on VR & would be surprised if someone hasn’t tried Cardboard...
 
Thought you asked about VR and Google Cardboard? Don’t know anything about streaming, but there is/usd to be a couple of forum threads on VR & would be surprised if someone hasn’t tried Cardboard...
Yes, my idea is next: elite can show 3D on screen in left-right format. Sooo if you stream it to phone and use cardboard to watch it should give 3D. Basically u can do it by sort of remote desktop soft.
You can do other stuff, open cardboard back, run camera app with back camera active and watch on screen :D. But then you must maintain exaxct position to see 3D.
 
Haha, I can sense the impending futility of finding Raxxla especially when this post is now going on about mobile phones. I would not be surprised to log in tomorrow to see the discussion has found out the price of carrots... in Norway.

We have an insider (H_Z) in that part of the world keeping an eye on the root vegetables market, just in case!
(Not saying anything about Brexit mind, just in case Big Boris is listening!)
 

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Oh dear - more mis-truths..

Extensive studies have shown no ill effects other than increased cataract rate in people who use them for many hours a day (using old tech phones of the 1990's). These are caused by direct heating of the eyes by conduction of heat from the case, not by the RF radiation. All modern phones are actually designed to direct RF away from the head - partly because of stringent safety rules (all phones are tested to meet Rf radiation limits set to give negligible exposure risk), but mainly because you get better data rates.

Extensive studies often sponsored by Multi-Billion $ Corporations... Please do yourself a favor and always take "studies were performed" with a huge grain of salt.
(it's common practice these days to simply purchase studies, it's completely normal for the institutes to literally ask the desired/preferred outcome of any study)

Radiation intensity is one thing. Naturally it can be harmful at high intensity, which isn't the case for mobile phones.
BUT.... the biggest threat Radiation typically poses is dose and exposure over [t].

So if you see very young people (even small kids) operating Smartphones or being chatty on them, they're doing nothing else than holding an active VHF/SHF Transmitter with extreme PRF right next to their body or head. And they get alot of exposure over the years due to intensive usage.

PS.
Similar things were stated about WLAN installations, totally harmless and no factor at all. "WLAN everywhere" was all the rage.
Well, in fact they're so "harmless" that both civilian and military Radar Installations even at large distances were jammed and a 5GHz Radar Blanking had to be implemented into the WLAN standards (i.e. FCC-06-96A1).

I remember our old Airframe (fighter jet) received a new and upgraded RWR decades ago (Radar Warning Receiver), fully tested and calibrated by the manufacturer.
Well, the sorties we did with this brand new RWR were.... let's just say "rather surprising".
We ended up seeing the device literally being jammed into oblivion by surface signals, rendering it nearly unusable for months. Only over open sea it was found usable and fully functional.
Manufacturer had to analyze the results and found out the Equipment wasn't at fault. It was merely bombarded with EM signals from the populated ground in a huge frequency spectrum. Much worse, much more intense and much broader then they had expected based on all civilian rules, regs and certifications guiding the production of EM-capable consumer devices.
It wasn't until a few Software updates later that the new Equipment worked to full satisfaction.

All I'm saying is... things aren't "all safe, sound & shiny" as the industry would love to make its "consumers" believe.
 
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things aren't "all safe, sound & shiny" as the industry would love to make its "consumers" believe.
There's so much conflicting information out there on the safety / hazards of trusting industrial giants in technology, media, medicine etc, etc these days that it's sometimes wiser to err on the side of caution.

Society still seems to be getting ever sicker despite apparent advances in one direction or another...

 
There's so much conflicting information out there on the safety / hazards of trusting industrial giants in technology, media, medicine etc, etc these days that it's sometimes wiser to err on the side of caution.

Society still seems to be getting ever sicker despite apparent advances in one direction or another...

Dont worry....there may be a fountain of youth on Raxxla!
Until then, think we need to balance safety, with actually living our lives without being scared to leave home :)
 
Extensive studies often sponsored by Multi-Billion $ Corporations... Please do yourself a favor and always take "studies were performed" with a huge grain of salt.
(it's common practice these days to simply purchase studies, it's completely normal for the institutes to literally ask the desired/preferred outcome of any study)

Radiation intensity is one thing. Naturally it can be harmful at high intensity, which isn't the case for mobile phones.
BUT.... the biggest threat Radiation typically poses is dose and exposure over [t].

So if you see very young people (even small kids) operating Smartphones or being chatty on them, they're doing nothing else than holding an active VHF/SHF Transmitter with extreme PRF right next to their body or head. And they get alot of exposure over the years due to intensive usage.

PS.
Similar things were stated about WLAN installations, totally harmless and no factor at all. "WLAN everywhere" was all the rage.
Well, in fact they're so "harmless" that both civilian and military Radar Installations even at large distances were jammed and a 5GHz Radar Blanking had to be implemented into the WLAN standards (i.e. FCC-06-96A1).

I remember our old Airframe (fighter jet) received a new and upgraded RWR decades ago (Radar Warning Receiver), fully tested and calibrated by the manufacturer.
Well, the sorties we did with this brand new RWR were.... let's just say "rather surprising".
We ended up seeing the device literally being jammed into oblivion by surface signals, rendering it nearly unusable for months. Only over open sea it was found usable and fully functional.
Manufacturer had to analyze the results and found out the Equipment wasn't at fault. It was merely bombarded with EM signals from the populated ground in a huge frequency spectrum. Much worse, much more intense and much broader then they had expected based on all civilian rules, regs and certifications guiding the production of EM-capable consumer devices.
It wasn't until a few Software updates later that the new Equipment worked to full satisfaction.

All I'm saying is... things aren't "all safe, sound & shiny" as the industry would love to make its "consumers" believe.

non-ionizing EM radiation is not the same as ionizing radiation. There is not the same exposure with time profile. Trouble is most people just hear 'Radiation' and think atom bombs..

You radar detector is probably triggered by a few micro-watts of signal. Even 1m from a wifi router the power levels are negligable in terms of human exposure, and the SAR limits (regulatory radiation limits) are very conservative. Interfering with sensitive instruments is a totally different kettle of fish to cooking humans.

I think we've gone far enough off topic now..
 
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I'm inclined to agree with this observation. It's one thing for a system to have been semi / fully explored (but not mapped) and present in eddb / inara and all the other external databases since prior to the Horizons release and then have an INRA base retroactively dropped on an airless moon much later with a handwavium "Well, you couldn't land on moons to find it the last time" from FDev.

In theory now they added the FSS / mapping, nothing can hide on any planet, even if we can't land on it.

[Edit: Gets up to make coffee and stumbles head first through a logical perception error and sees an obvious flaw in that argument: If / when the Atmos / Gas Giant patches are added there could be a further locking mechanism that's removed only for those who purchase the upgrade, revealing untold millions of occupied, living and breathing settlements that may not even exist prior to FDev retrofitting that content.]
Yeah, it’s just another of those things one has to accept as a consequence of the development approach.

It’ll be easy enough to just assert that atmospheres distort signals too much for the current FSS / scanners to distinguish specific signals. No real worries on that front.

Probing/mapping of non-landables is a bit more of a problem, but only really due to the names used. If we just consider it as a Level 3 scan, then the problem goes away.

Besides, we do know though that all the scanners are fallible. Off the top of my head;

- Gen Ships - if not near a body are still only picked up if within 1,000ls (word on the street, haven’t tested personally)

- Huge amounts of non-permanent surface POIs - not detected by FSS or DSS, but detected by ship’s radar and SRV wave scanner.

- INRA bases, etc - can’t be detected by ship’s radar, detectable by FSS and Probing (can’t remember for SRV scanner)

- Guardian sites - originally undetectable except by MK1 eyeball. Shows up on scanners following an upgrade from Ram Tah. Detectable by FSS and DSS. (I think they still don’t show up on radar, but haven’t specifically checked so could be wrong.)

- Lots of debris in space doesn’t show up.

- The survivor of the Thargoid attack on the Far God base didn’t show up.

For the INRA bases, to all intents and purposes, they could have been there from the start of the game. With being MK1 eyeball only originally, they wouldn’t have been found until something turned up to indicate they were there to be looked for.


There’s plenty of scope for things to be credibly explained away on that kind of basis.

Equally though there’s plenty of stuff where it would be credibility breaking. 😀
 
The truth [about Raxxla] is out there...
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Having said that, I've never found a "belief" that wasn't 50% "lie" either.
It’s kind of a truism though. Belief is inherently a matter of thinking something without sufficient evidence, disregarding uncertainty and sometimes ignoring contra-evidence. Otherwise it’s not a belief.

Also, it’s a slightly esoteric and OT discussion, but I’d personally say that ‘lies’ ascribes a level of intent which is often not there.

Following on from that, a philosophical point for general consideration; ‘lies’ is a term which is well into the realms of absolutism. Absolutism is itself a belief and therefore subject to the same principle. Is the concept of a lie therefore itself 50% or more a lie?

(Sorry for the OT folks, I just enjoy an abstract philosophical discussion once in a while! 😀)
 
@Macros Black - Still on the hunt for a NS binary, in close proximity to each other, near Sag A. Trouble is, although I'm pretty technical in my own little field; sound, video & general internet type things, are not remotely my bag quite honestly (I'm getting old!), and playing on PS4 certainly doesn't help. Before I invest a hugh amount of time, are you (or anybody else) able to work with the following format, to pull out some useful comparisons? I know that the current raw form will not be much help, without somebody more capable than I lending a hand...

This also got me wondering....The radio source found 1kly above Sol that didn't "quite" line up with Sag A* - I wonder if it could originate from this massive (seemingly largely unexplored) field of neutrons?

MYRIESLY WV-T D4-8928 (Control Data)

Distance from Sag A* : 1743 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169978561199034368


MYRIESLY AB-W E2-8816 (Control Data)

Distance from Sag A* : 1760 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169986871717482497


CROOMAA XY-S D3-2589

Distance from Sag A* : 1785 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Second Star : Class L2
Second Star Distance : 172550 ls
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169850181417783296


MYRIESLY AB-W E2-2016

Distance from Sag A* : 1693 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Second Star : Class M
Second Star Distance : 3 ls
Third Star : Class M
Third Star Distance : 161 ls
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169855953274994688


MYRIESLY AB-W E2-3231

Distance from Sag A* : 1735 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Second Star : Neutron Star
Second Star Distance : 2600 ls
Third Star : DA White Dwarf
Third Star Distance : 9600 ls
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star A : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169968379995836418

Sound of Neutron Star B : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169969860417347585

Sound of White Dwarf : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169971215223676931


MYRIESLY WU-X E1-2808

Distance from Sag A* : 1766 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Second Star : DA White Dwarf
Second Star Distance : 151000 ls
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169990609542795264

Sound of White Dwarf : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169990666111336448
 
Yeah that's the kind of thing I had hoped somebody could help with. There are distinct differences for different star configurations. Presumably due to gravitational effects
I've also seen some "unusual" witch space on some jumps in this area, including
a) a pronounced tunnel just before exit, with lots of upper central lights
b) and what I can only describe as "green orbs"
 
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Oh dear - more mis-truths..

Extensive studies have shown no ill effects other than increased cataract rate in people who use them for many hours a day (using old tech phones of the 1990's). These are caused by direct heating of the eyes by conduction of heat from the case, not by the RF radiation. All modern phones are actually designed to direct RF away from the head - partly because of stringent safety rules (all phones are tested to meet Rf radiation limits set to give negligible exposure risk), but mainly because you get better data rates.

Most of the studies were done on old tech with a 2W maximum power. Since then power has reduced to 0.2W (and many phone only put out 0.1W) due to better performing 3G + 4G technology.

You really don't have much to worry about, and if its held a few cm from you then the power is reduced by another 10 times so then you can worry even less.

You see all sorts of fake videos which have given credit to this myth - people boiling eggs or popping corn with their phones is fake news. Try it your self - more likely than finding Raxxla that the egg will be hard boiled by your phone
Thank you for beating me to this. I spent many years in the early aughts working on this and you’re right, they’re completely safe.
 
@Macros Black - Still on the hunt for a NS binary, in close proximity to each other, near Sag A. Trouble is, although I'm pretty technical in my own little field; sound, video & general internet type things, are not remotely my bag quite honestly (I'm getting old!), and playing on PS4 certainly doesn't help. Before I invest a hugh amount of time, are you (or anybody else) able to work with the following format, to pull out some useful comparisons? I know that the current raw form will not be much help, without somebody more capable than I lending a hand...

This also got me wondering....The radio source found 1kly above Sol that didn't "quite" line up with Sag A* - I wonder if it could originate from this massive (seemingly largely unexplored) field of neutrons?

MYRIESLY WV-T D4-8928 (Control Data)

Distance from Sag A* : 1743 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169978561199034368


MYRIESLY AB-W E2-8816 (Control Data)

Distance from Sag A* : 1760 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169986871717482497


CROOMAA XY-S D3-2589

Distance from Sag A* : 1785 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Second Star : Class L2
Second Star Distance : 172550 ls
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169850181417783296


MYRIESLY AB-W E2-2016

Distance from Sag A* : 1693 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Second Star : Class M
Second Star Distance : 3 ls
Third Star : Class M
Third Star Distance : 161 ls
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169855953274994688


MYRIESLY AB-W E2-3231

Distance from Sag A* : 1735 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Second Star : Neutron Star
Second Star Distance : 2600 ls
Third Star : DA White Dwarf
Third Star Distance : 9600 ls
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star A : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169968379995836418

Sound of Neutron Star B : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169969860417347585

Sound of White Dwarf : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169971215223676931


MYRIESLY WU-X E1-2808

Distance from Sag A* : 1766 ly
Main Star : Neutron Star
Second Star : DA White Dwarf
Second Star Distance : 151000 ls
Previously Discovered : No
Sound of Neutron Star : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169990609542795264

Sound of White Dwarf : Source: https://twitter.com/RaxxlaHunter/status/1169990666111336448
Thanks CMDR. I'll run them through Audacity for comparison. I'm no audio expert, but if I fiddle long enough... Even a blind chicken may come across a grain.
 
It’s kind of a truism though. Belief is inherently a matter of thinking something without sufficient evidence, disregarding uncertainty and sometimes ignoring contra-evidence. Otherwise it’s not a belief.

Also, it’s a slightly esoteric and OT discussion, but I’d personally say that ‘lies’ ascribes a level of intent which is often not there.

Following on from that, a philosophical point for general consideration; ‘lies’ is a term which is well into the realms of absolutism. Absolutism is itself a belief and therefore subject to the same principle. Is the concept of a lie therefore itself 50% or more a lie?

(Sorry for the OT folks, I just enjoy an abstract philosophical discussion once in a while! 😀)

I’ve either had too much whisky, or not enough, cos I didn’t understand that!
Isn’t Absolut vodka? I prefer whisky, or brandy! 🥴
 
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