I still insist on 1 postulate, "nobody will do extra programming just to hide raxxla", which means any idea must fit/use already existing game play parts (oldest ones). Which u should see in everyday play. Example, if u can't enter BH in everyday play then raxxla will not be hidden inside BH.
I tend to agree that Raxxla is likely to be accessible through normal game mechanisms available since the gamma release, however with the proviso that Raxxla is the biggest Easter Egg in the game so I think it’s quite possible that FD could have put extra effort into that from the outset. We don’t know anything about it so we don’t know what they did relating to it!

Pilots have always been able to enter black holes in ED, there are plenty of YT videos on this going back to the early days, but you can’t get past their exclusion zone. Actually I seem to remember entering my first BH (Maia or Merope?) a couple of years ago and not seeing an exclusion zone limit, just trundled around until I got bored & headed back out, so perhaps the exclusion zone is a later addition? Han_Zen will know.

As a possible mechanism it would be quite easy from a programming viewpoint to replace that exclusion zone limit by a hyperspace transition for one specific “gateway” BH. I did try that hypothesis for some 30-odd suspect BH, just because I didn’t find it doesn’t mean that mechanism doesn’t exist. However I’m currently pursuing a quite different hypothesis using normal mission mechanisms & trying to gain the trust of TRDW.
 
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Source please.

To the best of my knowledge, there has never ever been anything which stated that Raxxla was accessible.
True, but DB did say it’s been in-game since the gamma, which sort of implies it’s accessible. I just can’t see him putting it into the game without it being accessible. It might be hidden behind a permit lock but if so I think there’s also been a mechanism available since the gamma to get that permit.

However I also have a vague feeling that one of DB’s utterances was that he was surprised it hadn’t already been found. I have googled this but can’t find the source for it, and may have imagined it, though lots of the old forum stuff seems now to be inaccessible. Might have been in a livestream? If he did say that then it would confirm it’s accessible!
 
[thin foil thinking] What if Raxxla is only reachable when you select the system manually, never when you plot a route from let say from Sol to Delphi ? [/thin foil thinking]

You can never travel pass the Raxxla system with plotting a more then one jumping route .

My Thin foil hat thinking that the Raxxla system is excluded from plotting..
 
[thin foil thinking] What if Raxxla is only reachable when you select the system manually, never when you plot a route from let say from Sol to Delphi ? [/thin foil thinking]

You can never travel pass the Raxxla system with plotting a more then one jumping route .

My Thin foil hat thinking that the Raxxla system is excluded from plotting..
A common hypothesis from the early days of this Quest is that Raxxla (or its system) isn‘t visible in the galmap (easy for Pilots’ Federation (i.e. FD) to delete it) and it must be manually selected from the list of nearby systems in the navigation panel to be able to jump to it. The trouble is that it is very tedious in each system to go through that list selecting each system, then checking it against the galmap. I think I withstood it for half an hour. It also allows for happenstance location & I think DB would have wanted a more focussed treasure hunt mechanism to find it. I think that’s the message of the codex entry. First gain the trust of The Real Dark Wheel, then you might get nearer to Raxxla. I suspect there’s a series of hoops for us to jump through, but the first part has few clues & we won’t know we’re taking the test until we’re told we’ve passed it.
The problem then is what happens if we fail it? Do we ever get notification that we were close??
 
True, but DB did say it’s been in-game since the gamma, which sort of implies it’s accessible. I just can’t see him putting it into the game without it being accessible. It might be hidden behind a permit lock but if so I think there’s also been a mechanism available since the gamma to get that permit.

However I also have a vague feeling that one of DB’s utterances was that he was surprised it hadn’t already been found. I have googled this but can’t find the source for it, and may have imagined it, though lots of the old forum stuff seems now to be inaccessible. Might have been in a livestream? If he did say that then it would confirm it’s accessible!
Call me a traditionalist, but I think assuming something was meant by something when it wasn’t actually specifically said, is slightly different to it actually being said, and needs to be treated accordingly! 😀

Far too much bother on the forums from people going off things that were never actually said in the first place! 😉

But on the other point about the DB quote, if it’s the one that was along the lines of ‘I’m surprised that no one’s found what’s one of the biggest things in game’ that was from a stream from around the time of the 2.4 announcement and one of the 2.3.x updates. Might have been from an event. The DB bit was a pre-recorded bit IIRC.

In one of the other trailers from around the same time was the overhead shot of some SRVs approaching some sort of cave or structure and then a Thargoid appearing above them. It was speculated at the time that that was what DB was referring to. In retrospect it could also have been the crashed Thargoid scouts. There’s also the (slight) possibility that it was Jameson’s Cobra and the INRA bases - they were only found after they were featured in a content teaser trailer which was released between some 2.4.x updates. They may have only just been added in one of the preceeding 2.4 updates, but who knows, they might have just featured in the teaser as they’d been there for a while but not found. 🤷‍♂️
 
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But on the other point about the DB quote, if it’s the one that was along the lines of ‘I’m surprised that no one’s found what’s one of the biggest things in game’ that was from a stream from around the time of the 2.4 announcement and one of the 2.3.x updates. Might have been from an event. The DB bit was a pre-recorded bit IIRC.

In one of the other trailers from around the same time was the overhead shot of some SRVs approaching some sort of cave or structure and then a Thargoid appearing above them. It was speculated at the time that that was what DB was referring to. In retrospect it could also have been the crashed Thargoid scouts. There’s also the (slight) possibility that it was Jameson’s Cobra and the INRA bases - they were only found after they were featured in a content teaser trailer which was released between some 2.4.x updates. They may have only just been added in one of the preceeding 2.4 updates, but who knows, they might have just featured in the teaser as they’d been there for a while but not found. 🤷‍♂️
@Jorki Rasalas some vids for reference:

The Return Announcement - the bit I was talking about with the SRVs, cave/structure/Thargoid is near then end. Also check 0:46 for an image of an old school Cobra MkIII and a Thargoid Scout in an planetary ring.

Potential streams for the DB bit:

Edit - disregard the ones in the spoiler - had a quick look myself after posting and these are just the ones where Ed did that bit of stuff that lead to the in-game message to all cmdrs about the return of the Thargoids.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrJQ3M91Qmg



Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AJ_sAH-f8c


Thought I'd post them to save you looking as these are the ones from the time I was talking about. Haven't been through them thoroughly looking for the DB quote though (and probably won't) so I can't guarantee the DB bit's actually in them though. Good luck, and let me/us know if you find it! :D

Edit 2 - It's probably not in the final video either. Haven't checked yet, but have tried searching more generally and have remembered why I gave up last time. Nothing coming up via forum searches despite it being discussed - would have been in the Canonn threads I reckon. 9 probably. Though thinking about it, it could have been a reference to the Zurara so maybe a FR thread, and that'd put the DB bit earlier than I was thinking.
 
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On a bit less scientific note, I had this day-dream about Ms. Fields again. She was walking inside a never-ending, artificial cityscape of a Coriolis spacestation for some reason, around the upper low-sec sector. Hiding her bright red hair among common spacejunkies and freebooters, to us she would seem just like another cyber-addict or a techpunk. Purple-haired heroes gathering in anarchy bars for another cycle of drinking Leestian evil juice all day and blowing up unwary traders all night. She wouldn't mind doing the same for a while, keeping it low and spending some credits from the last contract. In her business credits soon lost meaning, as one error could end it all quickly. Accumulated cybernetic memory from dozens of generations did help a little, creeping suspicion of a subconscious hivemind guiding her actions would ease in the bar. She had lost her ship, Viper III class fighter in assassination of some Federal military conglomerate executive, this happened sometimes, it could even be useful. This time the situation was less desirable, as if the holofac from last night was correct, The Blackmount are already taking over secure comms in the sector, and she needed some naive spacer to smuggle her out fast...

I think these sort of things happen to her fairly often.
 
On a bit less scientific note, I had this day-dream about Ms. Fields again. She was walking inside a never-ending, artificial cityscape of a Coriolis spacestation for some reason, around the upper low-sec sector. Hiding her bright red hair among common spacejunkies and freebooters, to us she would seem just like another cyber-addict or a techpunk. Purple-haired heroes gathering in anarchy bars for another cycle of drinking Leestian evil juice all day and blowing up unwary traders all night. She wouldn't mind doing the same for a while, keeping it low and spending some credits from the last contract. In her business credits soon lost meaning, as one error could end it all quickly. Accumulated cybernetic memory from dozens of generations did help a little, creeping suspicion of a subconscious hivemind guiding her actions would ease in the bar. She had lost her ship, Viper III class fighter in assassination of some Federal military conglomerate executive, this happened sometimes, it could even be useful. This time the situation was less desirable, as if the holofac from last night was correct, The Blackmount are already taking over secure comms in the sector, and she needed some naive spacer to smuggle her out fast...

I think these sort of things happen to her fairly often.
With daydreams like that I would forgo NetFlix...
 
Hmm ... I feel like i'm in wrong one. There is another in Acheron. Contains 1 M and like 30-40 Y/T. And matches to his post acutaly, he said fly top from deep void, There is sector "Abyss" which means deep void. But it seems i will have to use jumponium to get there alot.
 
Hmm ... I feel like i'm in wrong one. There is another in Acheron. Contains 1 M and like 30-40 Y/T. And matches to his post acutaly, he said fly top from deep void, There is sector "Abyss" which means deep void. But it seems i will have to use jumponium to get there alot.
And here begins the re-interpretation which happens a lot in hoaxes... maybe its this, maybe its that instead. Mathmoss instructions are still up in one of the videos and there doesn't seem to have any ambiguity. If its not there then perhaps there simply never was.
 
Jumped couple scoopables except Ms there... well, because on that "photoshoped" screenshot rings are shiny white with shadow which means it must be K /A/B/O/F somewhere close as main star (and if to trust that picture, then should not go that another small sector, as It has only 1 M star) ... Most are empties - stars only, others have 2-3-4 terra/water planets. Landable are mostly on dwarfs as main.
Somewhere right before that cluster had intresting system ... gas giant with 2 another smaller giants as minors + 2 terraformable minors. Never seen such before :)
 
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