The Quest To Find Raxxla

Stinja

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This quote?
https://player.twitch.tv/?volume=0.8&video=v66487974&time=1h40m30s


I was re-reading The Dark Wheel and thought this was interesting:
" 'One thing's for sure,' Rafe went on drily. 'Unless you get there, unless you become élite, you'll never get to Raxxla. And you'll never know exactly what your father was searching for.' "

Which sort of matches the statement about "personal journey". As "unless you get there" implies travel, just not in the physical sense with "unless you become Elite", which is a state of being / Pilot Rank. Anyway interesting.
 

Scytale

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Jaiotu said:
Was I? Things get so fuzzy. I know I tuned into one of his streams live, maybe this was the one? I dunno. Somewhere I recorded just the MB interview part of the show ... need to dig it back up.
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Jaiotu nick appears in the chat side bar, at the firsts minutes of the interview.
 

locuus

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Scytale said:
At that question asked by DJTruthsayer MB answered: " ... mmmmh ..That's true, but I think you have to make some of it a tiny little bit obvious etc..." which turns this actually to be both the best and unique clue.
But what am I telling you, Doc ? You were there, participating at the interview chat in real time ! :eek:

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Remember that this "celestial body..this place that is not a place..that key which is also the door...the myth" is told to be " obfuscated ..." What I can't determine, is if it is obfuscated because of being far away in the " outer rim" or because some other reason..
I suspect it being in a tiny locked region, maybe not yet discovered.
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I take obfuscate to mean distract, muddy. The Elite deliberately put out disinformation on it and its whereabouts. Interestingly the same was done with the (real) location of Founders World. The monument in Shinrarta Dezhra says as much.

I cant help but think that what we are seeing underlying the Formidine Rift and the Elites role there ties in. Well at least that's the line I'm pursuing.

There was a system which is locked to permit only in the Dark Wheel story which I'm intrigued to pursue as my next avenue
 

Louis Calvert

Louis Calvert
Stinja said:
This quote?
https://player.twitch.tv/?volume=0.8&video=v66487974&time=1h40m30s


I was re-reading The Dark Wheel and thought this was interesting:
" 'One thing's for sure,' Rafe went on drily. 'Unless you get there, unless you become élite, you'll never get to Raxxla. And you'll never know exactly what your father was searching for.' "

Which sort of matches the statement about "personal journey". As "unless you get there" implies travel, just not in the physical sense with "unless you become Elite", which is a state of being / Pilot Rank. Anyway interesting.
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And there's only one system in the game where you need to be Elite to go there (or be a kickstarter backer)...
 

Louis Calvert

Louis Calvert
There might well be, but I don't want to go round and round again having the discussion about why I don't think Raxxla is outside the bubble any more :)

It's interesting to note though that the Elite ranking it means in TDW related solely to kills - essentially Rafe was telling Ryder to learn to be a killer - not just a killer, but a really good killer in order to find Raxxla.

Quite an odd requirement to find a lost planet don't you think? EDIT: Sorry meant to add - Maybe finding Raxxla isn't hard, it's getting there that's hard - as in, you need to be Elite, which is pretty hard to do - but actually finding Raxxla (or knowing where it is) isn't hard.
 
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[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Moribus said:
There might well be, but I don't want to go round and round again having the discussion about why I don't think Raxxla is outside the bubble any more :)
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We'll just pretend we've had the discussion and that I still think you're wrong :p

Moribus said:
It's interesting to note though that the Elite ranking it means in TDW related solely to kills - essentially Rafe was telling Ryder to learn to be a killer - not just a killer, but a really good killer in order to find Raxxla.

Quite an odd requirement to find a lost planet don't you think? EDIT: Sorry meant to add - Maybe finding Raxxla isn't hard, it's getting there that's hard - as in, you need to be Elite, which is pretty hard to do - but actually finding Raxxla (or knowing where it is) isn't hard.
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I think that FDev had a better method for players finding Raxxla than them just stumbling into a particular system in a galaxy of 400 billion. At least I HOPE they do. Whatever the requirement is for us to get the knowledge will be difficult, but then getting to Raxxla itself will be easy.
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Moribus said:
There might well be, but I don't want to go round and round again having the discussion about why I don't think Raxxla is outside the bubble any more :)

It's interesting to note though that the Elite ranking it means in TDW related solely to kills - essentially Rafe was telling Ryder to learn to be a killer - not just a killer, but a really good killer in order to find Raxxla.

Quite an odd requirement to find a lost planet don't you think? EDIT: Sorry meant to add - Maybe finding Raxxla isn't hard, it's getting there that's hard - as in, you need to be Elite, which is pretty hard to do - but actually finding Raxxla (or knowing where it is) isn't hard.
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The reason Rafe said Alex needed to be Elite wasn't because of a permit lock. The reason was that Raxxla is already occupied by élites. I expect that, once found, a lone explorer without weapons or proper defensive equipment isn't going to survive very long. It's not just about finding Raxxla. It's about liberating it from those who are currently exploiting it for their own nefarious purposes.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
DrewCarnegie said:
One system that we are currently aware of.
Who's to say there isn't another system somewhere that's permit locked until you're Elite?
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The Elite requirement is linked to organisation 'The Dark Wheel', not Raxxla it self.

It's basically(lore wise) a requirement if you want to find Raxxla with the help of The Dark Wheel. If you think you can do it on your own, you probably don't have to worry about ranks.
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Han_Zen said:
The Elite requirement is linked to organisation 'The Dark Wheel', not Raxxla it self.

It's basically(lore wise) a requirement if you want to find Raxxla with the help of The Dark Wheel. If you think you can do it on your own, you probably don't have to worry about ranks.
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'One thing's for sure,' Rafe went on dryly. 'Unless you get there, unless you become élite, you'll never get to Raxxla. And you'll never know exactly what your father was searching for.'

The natural reading of Rafe's statement is that the "there" that Alex needs to get to is the rank of élite. The entire conversation leading up to this revelation is Rafe telling Alex that his father, Jason, believed that he had what it takes to reach the highest combat rank. This of course leads up to our introduction to The Dark Wheel and the revelation that Rafe himself was once élite but that ever since he lost his edge he is "not part of it anymore. Not to that degree. But I watch and I listen, and I do what told."

So yes ... I think your reading is exactly right. Working with The Dark Wheel requires an Elite combat rank ... and is probably a reason why they would have shielded themselves at Shinrarta Dhezra ... it reduces the number of "not worthy" candidates knocking on their doors.
 

Scytale

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Elite in combat or any of the three pilote class Elite ranks in E: D , seems to me. :) I guess FDevs wanted to keep the storyline accessible to most of the players.

Jaiotu said:
... and is probably a reason why they would have shielded themselves at Shinrarta Dhezra ...
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' Shinrarta is nothing. '

The Lady of TDW, when introducing Salomé to the CoR agents.

(I know, I know ..not canon lore. But I like it ! :) )
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Scytale said:
Elite in combat or any of the three pilote class Elite ranks in E: D , seems to me. :) I guess FDevs wanted to keep the storyline accessible to most of the players.
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To bad it doesn't include forum rank. I might have had a shot at it to. :D

Luckily I have my founders permit to Shinrarta Dhezra.
 

Scytale

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RP>
Founders, Kickstarters and the like, are enjoying privileges because they are rich old fogeys who bought them with vile Cr.
We, average players, are who do the real and worthy work ! [big grin]
(Sounds quite commie...doesn't it ? )
(Not sure about the translation... :eek: )
 
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Evoflash

Evoflash
Scytale said:
RP>
Founders, Kickstarters and the like, are enjoying privileges because they are rich old fogeys who bought them with vile Cr.
We, average players, are who do the real and worthy work ! [big grin]
(Sounds quite commie...doesn't it ? )
(Not sure about the translation... :eek: )
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Perhaps the Dark Wheel really simply wishes to gather these pseudo-elites in one place and resolve the inconsistency? Shadowy arm of Pilots Federation...
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
A bit more on Raxxla and Sirius

As most people in this dark corner of the forum are regulars, I'm sure you remember my post about a potential Raxxla / Sirius connection: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Find-Raxxla?p=6154193&viewfull=1#post6154193

I've gathered some info about the Sirius system, to see if anyone can make sense of it.

First the basics
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Lots of numbers. [big grin]

The Sirius system looks more or less exactly like this:
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Sirius A and Sirius B orbits the center of gravity, approximately every 49.73 years. The maximum distance between them is 20 AU. The minimum distance is about 8.15 AU.
Currently we are very close to the maximum, with an in-game distance of almost 19.9 AU.

According to Salomé, the federal documents about Raxxla were dated 2814. Some 489 years ago.

489/49.73 = 9.83 laps of rotation or that we are about 8 years off(early) the position of the system in 2814. Hopefully federal bureaucracy used a bit of time with the archiving and Raxxla was found a few years before. :D

Other possibly interesting points:

- Lucifer is marked as tidally locked, but has 99 D orbital period and 4.9 D rotational period. It's in a 20:1 resonance. Not seen that elsewhere.
- Waypoint orbits Sirius A in and almost centric orbit at 2 AU. This is exactly 1/10 of the max distance between A and B. The system COG will at times be inside the orbit of Waypoint.

Just a few observations. Keep searching. [where is it]
 
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