The Quest To Find Raxxla
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I headed to Sirius to do some deep space poking, when I got that weird "frame shift drive operating beyond safety limits"... Is it just a bug?
It's been reported multiple times to FDev, so they know, but have never acknowledged it as a bug (that I can find).
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...fety-Limits-quot-audio-when-not-in-NS-WD-cone
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/364192-frame-shift-drive-operating-beyond-safety-limits
What if it's a "little bit obvious" hint that something is nearby? Dark matter / rogue planets / etc?
I'll spend a little more time criss-crossing space looking into these FSD anomalies...
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I though you trusted the feds?
I don't trust the Feds
I trust Salome less (I don't even trust her to be dead)
Consequently I REALLY don't trust what Salome says the Feds said
FDev don't always acknowledge a bug as a bug.
It took them a looong time to admit that the disappearing Heart/Soul nebulae issue was a bug.
I’ve had it a few times my self. Mostly when going from Sirius A to Sirius B.
Don’t know If that happens in other white dwarf system?
No idea if it’s bug.
I don't trust the Feds
I trust Salome less (I don't even trust her to be dead)
Consequently I REALLY don't trust what Salome says the Feds said
FDev don't always acknowledge a bug as a bug.
It took them a looong time to admit that the disappearing Heart/Soul nebulae issue was a bug.
Salomé would never plain lie, without being all obtuse and mysterious about it.
The Feds would Lie about anything, but they are serious when it commes to protocol.
The reporting date may be a bit late compared to the discovery though.
same thought , no hint IN Game but it is in the game
Drive maintenance. The longevity of 2b drives was terrible, I'll assume it was for type 1 drives too.
AFAIK there are still undiscovered (non-scanned) bodies in the bubble.
The date of the original Elite game is 3125AD so TDW novella would be set earlier than that. FE2 is set in 3200.
Is this the new information that comes from the crashed Cobra MkIII? The mycoid storyline originated in FFE which starts in 3250, I think the missions involving INRA, the mycoid vaccine and the Thargoids are in 3252 or 3253.
All bodies in the game orbit a centre of gravity.
Straw poll - how many people on this thread have actually achieved this? If not then shall we all do it then see if anything new crops up?
Thanks for doing this, I had the same thought a while ago but never got round to testing it - you've saved me the effort!I don't think "Obfuscated by The Outer Rim" is a play on the phrase The Outer Rim like a cryptic crossword clue.
I put all of the system names in to an excel sheet (all 8661 of them which I found here: https://cim.sotl.org.uk/elite-dangerous/ )
I removed the spaces and then filtered for systems with 11 characters as per "The Outer Rim".
I searched for anagrams of "The Outer Rim"
No matches
I searched for anagrams of "Outer Rim"
No matches
I then searched for names where characters 3 and 7 were the same, and characters 8 and 9 were the same - maybe a cypher.
No matches.
I then tried the same with just "Outer Rim" and the matching R's. 11 systems meet this criteria however there's no further pattern I can see that links the remaining letters to an type of cypher shift.
No matches.
Please lose the sense of entitlement. The kickstarter finished ages ago and definitely isn't still funding the game's development. The only reason we've still got a game to play is because new players join and existing players continue to spend money on in-game shiny stuff.
Nope.
I'm triple Elite, sad as that is, but even i'm ignoring CQC thanks.
I will volunteer to be the "hey i can't see this thing the quad-Elites can", should they find something interesting.
I see what you mean, but the Mycoid storyline ends in FFE, not starts - in FFE it's revealed that Mycoid was used to end the war which took place over 100 years earlier than FFE.
http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/first-encounters/journals/all/
MYCOIDS - THE KEY TO THE THARGOID'S DEPARTURE
M.C.S
Dr Innitu today gave the keynote address to the Alien Races Convention (held on New Caledonia in the Beta Hydri system) claiming to be in possession of documents that detail the genetic engineering of a mycoid with anti-plastic properties.
Thargoid hyperdrives have long been known to contain heavy plastics containing long-chain polymers entirely unlike anything in human-designed drives and the claim is that INRA deliberately developed a virulent infective agent specifically tailored to infect only the Thargoid technology. The hypothesis suggests that the INRA mycoid was capable of selectively disabling the Thargoid hyperdrives and rendering long-distance travel impossible.
Innitu claims to have proof that the Veliaze system served as a forward base for the Thargoids, equivalent to one of our outer 'Frontier' worlds and that their home system was several thousand light years distant. In this case, absence of hyperdrive capabilities would effectively confine the Thargoids to their home systems.
If Innitu's claim is fact, then the Thargoids did not leave of their own accord and the only thing preventing their return is the continuing virulence of the mycoid. Logic suggests that as soon as the Thargoids develop the technology to engineer an anti-dote or a vaccine, they will be able to return.
Perhaps this time, we should ask questions first and save the shooting for later?
MYCOIDS - THE KEY TO THE THARGOID'S DEPARTURE
M.C.S
Dr Innitu today gave the keynote address to the Alien Races Convention (held on New Caledonia in the Beta Hydri system) claiming to be in possession of documents that detail the genetic engineering of a mycoid with anti-plastic properties.
Thargoid hyperdrives have long been known to contain heavy plastics containing long-chain polymers entirely unlike anything in human-designed drives and the claim is that INRA deliberately developed a virulent infective agent specifically tailored to infect only the Thargoid technology. The hypothesis suggests that the INRA mycoid was capable of selectively disabling the Thargoid hyperdrives and rendering long-distance travel impossible.
Innitu claims to have proof that the Veliaze system served as a forward base for the Thargoids, equivalent to one of our outer 'Frontier' worlds and that their home system was several thousand light years distant. In this case, absence of hyperdrive capabilities would effectively confine the Thargoids to their home systems.
If Innitu's claim is fact, then the Thargoids did not leave of their own accord and the only thing preventing their return is the continuing virulence of the mycoid. Logic suggests that as soon as the Thargoids develop the technology to engineer an anti-dote or a vaccine, they will be able to return.
Perhaps this time, we should ask questions first and save the shooting for later?
Dr Innitu's assassination (from FFE) and his book is also mentioned in ED Lore at one of the tourist beacons (can't remember which offhand).
The Thargoid war ran from around 3125 to 3150/51. (Lave Tourist beacon gives the start data, and GCS Sarasvati logs give the end date). The logs state that the Thargoids just vanished for some reason - because no-one knew about the use of Mycoid at that point.
INRA was created during that war, and developed the Mycoid as one of the projects (Source, INRA bases).
Remember FFE stuff isn't Lore until it appears in ED Lore - but since there's a reference to the Thargoid/Alliance meeting in Out of the Darknes, and the reference to the Quest class ships in Premonition, then it's very probable that there's some elements of FFE in ED in a way we'd recognise on the way - and DB said (I think it was during FX17) that in ED we'd get to see "what became of INRA" or words to that effect, so I imagine ultimately the ED storyline will include the events of FFE
Thanks for the update Moribus: I've not been keeping up with new discoveries and how they affect the ED historyline as much as I'd like - mainly because I'd actually like to find these things out for myself! But in this instance the info you give is welcome, thanks.
And Here The Wheel confirms the FFE storyline in an implicit way in the first scene on the Bohemoth where the Admiral talks about Mic Turner being a traitor to humanity and the interspecies convention with the Thargoids.
PS - please excuse me going off topic, I don't think any of the INRA stuff is related to Raxxla - in AHTW they don't know where it is either!
And Here The Wheel confirms the FFE storyline in an implicit way in the first scene on the Bohemoth where the Admiral talks about Mic Turner being a traitor to humanity and the interspecies convention with the Thargoids.
PS - please excuse me going off topic, I don't think any of the INRA stuff is related to Raxxla - in AHTW they don't know where it is either!
No probs, thanks for the info from AHTW, I haven't read that one yet, nice to have extra confirmation!
I need to knuckle down someday and just read all the books.Ah, I assumed you had read that. There's nothing really about Raxxla in there (except nobody's found it). Overall, it's my favourite ED book of the ones I've read so far (just 3 to go) and if you're an FFE fan then you'll love it! (at least I did)No probs, thanks for the info from AHTW, I haven't read that one yet, nice to have extra confirmation!
My Theory (Tin Foil Hattery Ahead!) My Search and My Thoughts
So I am still reading through this thread (on Page 18 at the time of writing this) but there are many things that have been bugging me about Raxxla. It is right infront of us but is hard to find. It is a place that isn't a place. All these lore messages but what if perhaps it is just something we are overlooking. Now I have to label some of this as a spoiler because I am using And Here The Wheel and later events in the story as a basis. I have a couple of theories some are thin....very thin and others a bits of information that I have learned.
Now for some things that I have thought of.
Well there is grasping at straws right? I'm thinking it might be but here we go grasping at small strings! Huh? Well lets go even further
Hmm.....get your tinfoil hats off now.....so what does it mean the Dark Wheel lost it? To me it could mean varous things honestly. Perhaps they lost it due to politics. Perhaps it was taken from them from a group like CIEP? Or perhaps they really did loose it. But none the less I think that people are reading way more into it than needed. There are some simple clues/cues or something else right infront of us. I have begun my search for Raxxla using lore, clues and the ED books. I'm also positive that FDEV are enjoying us hunting for this.
I'm currently so far out in the black that just doing old fashioned research and digging is all I have right now.
Where is Soontil located? Or do we not know that yet either?
So I am still reading through this thread (on Page 18 at the time of writing this) but there are many things that have been bugging me about Raxxla. It is right infront of us but is hard to find. It is a place that isn't a place. All these lore messages but what if perhaps it is just something we are overlooking. Now I have to label some of this as a spoiler because I am using And Here The Wheel and later events in the story as a basis. I have a couple of theories some are thin....very thin and others a bits of information that I have learned.
Now for some things that I have thought of.
In And Here The Wheel some strange things happened. The finding of Soontil is one of the key components in this story
So what do we know about this discovery? Well it was in a "dark" system....a brown dwarf was the star in this system....it was dead. The planet itself was shrouded in an unscanable cloud/covering. Lastly at the end it was destroyed. Now this is where my tin foil hat comes in. So lets take what we know about the intrepid The Circle of Independent Elite Pilots.
They had hybrid Thargoid weapons. Used human ships to try to start a war. (This tells something about Thargoids and what we are experiencing in Elite) They controlled Soontil which is an interesting bit of information. Somone said something about there being 8 gateways to Raxxla.....and one was destroyed. What else was destroyed? Soontil! Now this is an interesting bit but I rather quite enjoyed the fact that one of the authors said their lore pack they received said they could not talk about Raxxla....but what if Soontil leads us to Raxxla that is legal right?????? RIGHT?!?!?!?!
So what do we know about this discovery? Well it was in a "dark" system....a brown dwarf was the star in this system....it was dead. The planet itself was shrouded in an unscanable cloud/covering. Lastly at the end it was destroyed. Now this is where my tin foil hat comes in. So lets take what we know about the intrepid The Circle of Independent Elite Pilots.
They had hybrid Thargoid weapons. Used human ships to try to start a war. (This tells something about Thargoids and what we are experiencing in Elite) They controlled Soontil which is an interesting bit of information. Somone said something about there being 8 gateways to Raxxla.....and one was destroyed. What else was destroyed? Soontil! Now this is an interesting bit but I rather quite enjoyed the fact that one of the authors said their lore pack they received said they could not talk about Raxxla....but what if Soontil leads us to Raxxla that is legal right?????? RIGHT?!?!?!?!
Well there is grasping at straws right? I'm thinking it might be but here we go grasping at small strings! Huh? Well lets go even further
Now what if the moon at Laive (sp?) was Raxxla? Where has it gone. What if the 8 gateways were actually dimensional/galactic anchors? Now for something like what Raxxla is rumored to be that might be the case. Lets take Laive as a center point for the anchors under this theory. Soontil would be one of the anchors and then that would give us the center and one of the edges of the anchor. Soontil was destroyed so Raxxla shifted as the center of the anchor moved!
Find the other anchors along this line and you find Raxxla. This is a very far fetched theory but a theory
Find the other anchors along this line and you find Raxxla. This is a very far fetched theory but a theory
Hmm.....get your tinfoil hats off now.....so what does it mean the Dark Wheel lost it? To me it could mean varous things honestly. Perhaps they lost it due to politics. Perhaps it was taken from them from a group like CIEP? Or perhaps they really did loose it. But none the less I think that people are reading way more into it than needed. There are some simple clues/cues or something else right infront of us. I have begun my search for Raxxla using lore, clues and the ED books. I'm also positive that FDEV are enjoying us hunting for this.
I'm currently so far out in the black that just doing old fashioned research and digging is all I have right now.
Where is Soontil located? Or do we not know that yet either?
The more I read up on this the more I think its a wormhole, black hole or something related to witch space. Thus 'a place that's not a place." This also fits 'a door that's also THE key.' I also suspect that soontill and raxxla are either closely related or the same thing.
I tried tracing exploration expansion but that went nowhere. Now I have the feeling initial Thargoid meeting locations and surrounds might be best bet.
I tried tracing exploration expansion but that went nowhere. Now I have the feeling initial Thargoid meeting locations and surrounds might be best bet.
Wait a minute!
So I re-read my crazy fueled post yesterday and started having a discussion with a friend of mine on this subject. Now what do we know?
a place that's not a place
a door that's also the key
Witch space is a place that is not a place. It is a doorway to other systems using our jump drive tech (Thargoid hybrid tech?). And it is very possibly the key to finding Raxxla.
They say in the novella from the original Elite that ships would get lost in witch space. Just float out there for eternity. So it is possible to get stuck in witch space. So it would make sense that perhaps there is something there in witch space. Given this it wouldn't be far fetched to say it might even be possible to jump to specific coordinates there given the right tech and calibration if a planet is found who is to say it couldn't be colonized? Also why has no one seen the Thargoids for so long? Perhaps they were hiding out in witch space as well.
It was found and lost
Jason Ryder in the Novella knew something
Raxxla is not mentioned a TON in the novels I have read so far
The search is on.....
From the DJTruthsayer interview:
Question: "You have said that there will be no clues though?"
Brookes: "That's true, but I think you have to make some of it a tiny bit obvious just so people know what they're doing. There's nothing to be revealed at this stage."
I am beginning to wonder if indeed it does have something to do with witch space. But in the end I am compiling what I know and writing it down to see if maybe there was something so insanely obvious in there. But the bottom line is I would put money on the fact that it is staring us right in the face.
So I re-read my crazy fueled post yesterday and started having a discussion with a friend of mine on this subject. Now what do we know?
a place that's not a place
a door that's also the key
Witch space is a place that is not a place. It is a doorway to other systems using our jump drive tech (Thargoid hybrid tech?). And it is very possibly the key to finding Raxxla.
They say in the novella from the original Elite that ships would get lost in witch space. Just float out there for eternity. So it is possible to get stuck in witch space. So it would make sense that perhaps there is something there in witch space. Given this it wouldn't be far fetched to say it might even be possible to jump to specific coordinates there given the right tech and calibration if a planet is found who is to say it couldn't be colonized? Also why has no one seen the Thargoids for so long? Perhaps they were hiding out in witch space as well.
It was found and lost
Jason Ryder in the Novella knew something
Raxxla is not mentioned a TON in the novels I have read so far
The search is on.....
From the DJTruthsayer interview:
Question: "You have said that there will be no clues though?"
Brookes: "That's true, but I think you have to make some of it a tiny bit obvious just so people know what they're doing. There's nothing to be revealed at this stage."
I am beginning to wonder if indeed it does have something to do with witch space. But in the end I am compiling what I know and writing it down to see if maybe there was something so insanely obvious in there. But the bottom line is I would put money on the fact that it is staring us right in the face.
now you put down that way
a place that's not a place
a door that's also the key
2 lines 26 characters each
hum,,,
a place that's not a place
a door that's also the key...
The game startup screen....it’s a place but is not a place, it’s a patterns of pixels on a display screen
it’s the door into the game, it shows the location of Raxxla and is therefore the key???
Both DB and MB have said Raxxla is in the Milky Way and in-game from the start. It's one of the few clues actually given about the location of Raxxla.
For this reason I don't think Raxxla is in Witchspace. It may well be in a place that can only be reached by some future modification of hyperdrive though. Whatever it is bear in mind that it was found and reached easily enough hundreds of years ago, so it can't need any exotic tech to get there.
Unless it moved.
Moving planet would be cool. I also like the idea that it's Soontil too.