Edit: Lol nevermind. Good luck.
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The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Edit: Lol nevermind. Good luck.
Raxxla is in all likelihood alien. If it isn't, it's a departure from Rafe Zetters description. It's still a fair chance that FD 'reverse engineered' it into earth's ancient history.
We know from the Mars relic that there were alien visitors to the Sol system, before humans visited Mars. These aliens may well have visited earth.
If they did, they could have been seen as gods or monsters by ancient humans. Their stories may have acted as proto-mythology and developed into the myths and religions we know.
This would be easy to implement as our ancient myths are full of references to the stars. FD could basically pick a story they like, find a corresponding location and put Raxxla there. After that, it's time for the vague mythology hints.
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You've never seen an episode of ancient aliens? Literally everything about earth's history's early mythology is inspired entirely by....
Notice the tinfoil-hat hair.
This would be easy to implement as our ancient myths are full of references to the stars. FD could basically pick a story they like, find a corresponding location and put Raxxla there. After that, it's time for the vague mythology hints.
It would, but its not in character for fdev to do that. Use symbology and myths yes, rewrite them, not yet.
I found an unmapped system in the bubble last few days, Brown Dwarf and Ice Planets, didn't have mapper with me, got blown up and forgot where it was, maybe its easier than I thought to lose a planet. And obviously very easy to hide something pre FSS and Surface Scanners.
Im not sure why becuse this is a pd fthat it means more than any other theory by anybody else. I haven't seen any evidence at all let alone 'Overwhelming Evidence' as mentioned twice that any heroes journey is in game, the one part of the game we all know is we are not a hero. the game does not rotate around us. Also doesn't seem 'tiny bit obvious' to go on that convoluted route. Please at least show me what the overwhelming evidence is if youre going to base the entire theory on it, don't just refer to it off screen.
You might as well link it to the Engineers Bases, at least some of them have references that make some kind of sense to the toast;
To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's woe,
and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla
Abel Laboratory / Phoenix Base / The Jet's Hole,
X, Kraken's Retreat / Long Sight Base / Farseer Inc,
Paters'Memorial / Abel Laboratory, Abel Laboratory
Fortunes Loss / Traders Rest / Prospectors Rest / Sanctuary, To Raxxla!
That last part made me think of the chorus to the eminem song 'not alike'. you can just put words together and extract meaning from them because YOU put the words AND meaning. Its easy to do for the one writing the words. Not as easy for the reader to know your entire thought out plan though just from dribble, feel me?
So far all the triggers in the game are by 'achieving' or 'carrying' something (mostly pre-known at the time of success) and then 'doing' something somewhere (sometimes the unlock is known, sometimes not)
eg
Achieve something (engineer requirement - known) - unlock an engineer
Achieve something (faction ranking - known) - unlock a permit
Achieve something (Superpower ranking - known) - unlock some ships
Carry Something (UA or UP - not known at the time) - unlock a Thargoid Base
Achieve Something (unlock a Guardiuan Beacon - unknown at time) - collect key - (unknown at time)
Carry Achievement (Guardian Key) & Achieve charging of guardian pylons (unknown at time) - unlock Weapon Blueprint (Unknown at time)
Achieve (Guardian Relic) & Carry it (Unknown at time) & Charge Guardian Pylons - Other Blueprint (Unknown at time)
Achieve something (D-Scan an UA/UP - unknown at time) - Record the response and run through a program to get a visual clue (unknown for ages until direct clue was given by MB)
And back to 1984 - Achieve Ranking (unknown at time) - visit 1 particular station after ranking up and get a Mission (totally unknown at time). 2nd mission unlock played exactly the same way but in a different galaxy map as well.
Achieve X & Maybe Carry Y and maybe Achieve Z as well while carrying and maybe just maybe those Guardian bases doors will open up - Still unknown but highly likely to be possible, all the visuals are there that its a door and it opens somehow just like the Thargoid ones.
So theres no reason to think if there is a 'journey' in a metaphorical sense that its any different to Achieve Something then Do Something and whatever that is has to be measurable by the game.
Also the 'Mysterious Benefactor' in 1984 was just a clever way for DB & IB to avoid writing a backstory for the character, you made your own up. The whole impress us and see what happens was just to provide longevity for the game for the players.
We made 99.9% of Raxxla up in our heads based on nothing but the first off-screen GalNet story. Theres no reason to think DB has followed us along the same lines, not from any previous game or this one yet. It wouldnt be in character.
eg
Achieve something (engineer requirement - known) - unlock an engineer
Achieve something (faction ranking - known) - unlock a permit
Achieve something (Superpower ranking - known) - unlock some ships
Carry Something (UA or UP - not known at the time) - unlock a Thargoid Base
Achieve Something (unlock a Guardiuan Beacon - unknown at time) - collect key - (unknown at time)
Carry Achievement (Guardian Key) & Achieve charging of guardian pylons (unknown at time) - unlock Weapon Blueprint (Unknown at time)
Achieve (Guardian Relic) & Carry it (Unknown at time) & Charge Guardian Pylons - Other Blueprint (Unknown at time)
Achieve something (D-Scan an UA/UP - unknown at time) - Record the response and run through a program to get a visual clue (unknown for ages until direct clue was given by MB)
And back to 1984 - Achieve Ranking (unknown at time) - visit 1 particular station after ranking up and get a Mission (totally unknown at time). 2nd mission unlock played exactly the same way but in a different galaxy map as well.
Achieve X & Maybe Carry Y and maybe Achieve Z as well while carrying and maybe just maybe those Guardian bases doors will open up - Still unknown but highly likely to be possible, all the visuals are there that its a door and it opens somehow just like the Thargoid ones.
So theres no reason to think if there is a 'journey' in a metaphorical sense that its any different to Achieve Something then Do Something and whatever that is has to be measurable by the game.
Also the 'Mysterious Benefactor' in 1984 was just a clever way for DB & IB to avoid writing a backstory for the character, you made your own up. The whole impress us and see what happens was just to provide longevity for the game for the players.
We made 99.9% of Raxxla up in our heads based on nothing but the first off-screen GalNet story. Theres no reason to think DB has followed us along the same lines, not from any previous game or this one yet. It wouldnt be in character.
You searching for Raxxla or trying to convince us its not in game? Because one of those things is ok....
But yea that does seem to be the prescribed method of doing things. Maybe bring some onionhead with you next time. Id open the door for you
But yea that does seem to be the prescribed method of doing things. Maybe bring some onionhead with you next time. Id open the door for you
Im not sure it is...yet but im not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm not sure I want it to be or want it to be found. I certainly enjoy the hunt more (I miss the Salome thread).
We have self-policed this forum for certainly the last 400 pages so anybody can come and say this is a theory and we all support it usually or point flaws but generally say to the poster 'go ahead its your game and valid as anyone else idea' and we have a lot of fun. We don't say our theory is the only one or pour scorn on players who don't follow that 'journey' as proscribed. We don't say 'overwhelming evidence' with no supporting evidence. Im as concerned with the tone as with the 'found meaning' that is hardly 'tiny bit obvious'. Its as valid as anyone elses, it doesn't overrule them.
We all make patterns, or our brains do, and some of them mean something to some of us. Songwriters are constantly amazed at the meaning other people have taken from their lyrics which meant nothing like that at all like that to them, the author, when they wrote it. Even an 'obvious' clue can be misinterpreted or missed altogether even when presented as plainly as possible (Salome thread again).
Drew Wagar may have made use or reference to the Heroes Journey in his books, I'm not sure either way. That may be where the idea originated.
We have self-policed this forum for certainly the last 400 pages so anybody can come and say this is a theory and we all support it usually or point flaws but generally say to the poster 'go ahead its your game and valid as anyone else idea' and we have a lot of fun. We don't say our theory is the only one or pour scorn on players who don't follow that 'journey' as proscribed. We don't say 'overwhelming evidence' with no supporting evidence. Im as concerned with the tone as with the 'found meaning' that is hardly 'tiny bit obvious'. Its as valid as anyone elses, it doesn't overrule them.
We all make patterns, or our brains do, and some of them mean something to some of us. Songwriters are constantly amazed at the meaning other people have taken from their lyrics which meant nothing like that at all like that to them, the author, when they wrote it. Even an 'obvious' clue can be misinterpreted or missed altogether even when presented as plainly as possible (Salome thread again).
Drew Wagar may have made use or reference to the Heroes Journey in his books, I'm not sure either way. That may be where the idea originated.
Raxxla is in all likelihood alien. If it isn't, it's a departure from Rafe Zetters description. It's still a fair chance that FD 'reverse engineered' it into earth's ancient history.
We know from the Mars relic that there were alien visitors to the Sol system, before humans visited Mars. These aliens may well have visited earth.
If they did, they could have been seen as gods or monsters by ancient humans. Their stories may have acted as proto-mythology and developed into the myths and religions we know.
This would be easy to implement as our ancient myths are full of references to the stars. FD could basically pick a story they like, find a corresponding location and put Raxxla there. After that, it's time for the vague mythology hints.
I think Ram Tah’s decodings were hints that Guardians visited Sol, and humanity may be descended either from them or our ancestors were their hunt prey. Fits with Mars Artefact. Hence my hypothesising that Raxxla is located in Sol, possibly one of their ark ships, but I’m currently running out of places to look! And from the codex TDW station seems to be relevant but is clearly not in Sol-wrong star type.
The heros journey is used in all forms of storytelling. In this case it might be thargoids might be 'supernatural' threat introduced, enginers/guardians might be 'mystical' guide, egineering/guardian upgrades might be you yourself becomeing empowered, we beat the thargoids (for now because this is only the early middle part). I think we just have to lose miserably and be 'reborn' from that defeat. I dont really know alk the steps but if memory serves any that should be kinda close to the heros journey, right?
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Don’t you use EDDiscovery to keep a track of your travel history?? It’s great. You could install it now and it will recover your travel history from your game log files so you can tell where that “lost” system was.
I agree, there were so many “relevance not known” comments in that document that for me it constituted “Significantly Underwhelming Evidence”; fancy formatting doesn’t mean a thing. But each to their own hypotheses!
I don't think FD have rewritten any myths. They may however have inserted a pre-mythological alien visit in earths virtual history. Traces of what the aliens told our virtual forefathers may fit with actual myths.
Personally I have a feeling that there is a link between Raxxla and the Guardians. Rafe Zetters description from TDW reads: "Your father was chasing the mythical planet Raxxla. Does it exist, or does it not? If it does, then on Raxxla there's an alien construct that's a gateway to other Universes, and all that's in those Universes in the way of bounty, and treasures, and aliens, and life"
Construct is the name FD have given the Guardian AI.
Other universes sounds a bit non physical. Well suited for someone without a body or fleeting yet eternal.
There are of course no evidence of anything. Just whispers in witchspace.
Arent 'whispers in witchspace' basically what led people to finding the guardians? /rhetorical
Guardian to early hominid “here, this stick I’m tying you to will help straighten your back so you can stand tall like us, and this apple I’m putting in your mouth tastes nicer than bananas, don’t mind the fire between those two Y-shaped sticks stuck in the ground-it’s to warm you up nicely!”
I use EDSM and one time I would have been scouring the logs to find the system...but Im older and less bothered now...still cant honk n scoop, have to use FSS.....but a long way from 'must map everything' I started out as. I was going to map one and leave the rest for future travellers so I just left them all, I had FSS them all and nothing of note there. Im in PP mode as well.
Think my EDSM travel logs are public, if not I can make them so if anyone wants to look, even just to get your name on something. It was a typical boring system otherwise known as the perfect place to hide something.
(Edit: now public, may be under Vetinaris or LateYew843181 my old GT on XB)
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I suspect that the planet was found using far more shady methods. The background stars may have been used to confirm the position of the system, but the discovery was way to quick.Actually, I think it was matching stars in the background of a release video!
According to the Codex, it was Halsey's visions that lead to the discovery. The fact that FD credits the NPCs(in the video) with first discovery and not commanders, tells me things didn't go according to plan.
I suspect that the planet was found using far more shady methods. The background stars may have been used to confirm the position of the system, but the discovery was way to quick.
According to the Codex, it was Halsey's visions that lead to the discovery. The fact that FD credits the NPCs(in the video) with first discovery and not commanders, tells me things didn't go according to plan.
Ive heard both versions as well, wish there was a definitive answer from fdev or someone but I probably will never know the truth.
I was too late to that party so even that info is confusing as Im not sure what happened, how it was reported or what the lore about it should be. I do wonder how much info fdev is expecting us to find as new players about the game and where it is now and why or whether they re-refer to anything important (permanent record in the codex and certain logs in Archives) theres no way to go back to day 1 in GalNet in game for example to see all the background stories about Halsey. to me they are a non-entity in my game, they mean nothing to me. Should they? (rhetorical question for fdev maybe)
A lot of it comes down to, what journey/game is fdev expecting me to have and do they have the same 'input' today as in the first few months or years when a lot of the galaxy was being written seemingly with the players direct experience in mind? Or is that a mis-perception of a newer player hearing all the stories of the old days and hunts and chases across the galaxy? Blaze your own trail, yes, but how much are you wanting me to do certain things, you encourage me to visit thagoid space and sites via Felicity Farseer, Guardian through Ram Tah, Colonia even through the Codex and Engineers. Nothing so far points me to any gameplay history, no signpost to Tionisla or Salome or Halsey for example, or am I missing them? What story journey am I expected to be on compared to a player 3 years ago? Do certain things just happen and not need remembering and others need every new player to be more aware of for some reason, maybe just gameplay not role-play? I don't know but I have become comfortably numb.
It was always in plain sight for many years but only for those who see... I'm a bit surprised @ScolioTheMost did not use this very obvious example in his pdf...
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Source: https://imgur.com/mC7xypQ
Edit: Its a common trope because its true...
The Quest To Find Raxxla
The Quest To Find Raxxla - Place that isn't a place, door that is also the key. The myth. This ship log will be used to document the assumptions, facts, theories and efforts surrounding Raxxla, with the ultimate goal of locating Raxxla. All commanders willing to join are most welcome. If no...
Source: https://imgur.com/mC7xypQ
Edit: Its a common trope because its true...
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