I hunted many new Wolf Rayet, Herbig and another rare stars in "AA-A Hx" systems. I visit distant sectors and then search these systems with increasing number "x". What is interesting for you is that sometimes I don't find star but the same as you - just pointer to nowhere. There is sometimes "regional" name when I zoom star map out but sometimes not and this looks as this case. HD 144218 and Graffias is Scorpius constellation so probably just another known name. Some small nebulaes (but not stellar remnant) have the central area without any star on star map. I tried find some hidden stars in nebulaes this way (visually and looking to navigation panel) but never found anything. Of course it is still interesting we can find such places using galaxy map search feature.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Theres a few system descriptions like that with 'mysterious' things going on, does make wonder, some of them may 'point' towards or be near a certain system and all refer to that...just a hint that maybe you're in the right region of space. I do think it may be 'a tiny bit obvious' as well 
Some seem to point towards Unauthorised Installations, some of which to all intents and purposes act as Pirate Bases in the old games, some don't, I helped defend one today (brilliantly called Damnation Centre...I've been to Hell and back looking for Raxxla ) but no extra reward as such.
Some seem to point towards Unauthorised Installations, some of which to all intents and purposes act as Pirate Bases in the old games, some don't, I helped defend one today (brilliantly called Damnation Centre...I've been to Hell and back looking for Raxxla
) but no extra reward as such.
1. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/page-736#post-8235761
What else is interesting is this reacts to at least two system listed as alternative names for the star. Does anyone know if that location is where it should be? It's very near graffias.
2. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/page-729#post-8223231
The black dwarf thing is interesting. This could hypothetically confirm this. I wonder if it's a missing star that is turned off. Should this star be dim enough for this?! I think I agree this should be bug reported for an answer. I'm lazy. Anyone up to it.
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Yes, a lot of the stuff about the raxxla symbol seems to clearly relate to certain base potentially. We went over a bunch of specifics and found some interesting correlations at one point. I can't remember what they all were though.
There are a lot of oddities like the 3 partial circle bar things around the dot is the same as certain UI elements. But it's upside down. That is a common theme. Stuff is upside down.
The 2d representation has multiple 3d/4d representations. One is a tesseract. I think someone pointed out that tesseracts and other things have to do with 3d coordinates also or something similar to that.
What else is interesting is this reacts to at least two system listed as alternative names for the star. Does anyone know if that location is where it should be? It's very near graffias.
2. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/page-729#post-8223231
The black dwarf thing is interesting. This could hypothetically confirm this. I wonder if it's a missing star that is turned off. Should this star be dim enough for this?! I think I agree this should be bug reported for an answer. I'm lazy. Anyone up to it.
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I'm sorry! I tried! But I kept losing track of what where my idea's, and what where just re-hashes of things I'd read, so I gave up and decided to just run with it and see what I came up with!
Brace yourselves, this goes loooooong!
Ok then folks, my idea's about Raxxla and how to find it!
Lets a have a look at the Raxxla 'symbol' from the Codex entry.
It looks like its this one:
There appears to be an alternate/older version with only 18 dashes making up the inner hexagob, narrower green lines/lanes linking the sides of the two hexagons and a smaller central symbol, but this one looks like the right one.
So, a hexagon within a hexagon, linked at the mid point of each side by a green 'lane' or line.
This makes me think the number six is significant somehow (more on that in a bit).
The inner hexagon is represented by a series of 33 dashes - alternating sides of 6 dashes then 5 dashes. The 6 dashed sides are top, lower right and lower left.
These corespond with the three arcs around the edge of the central symbol.
Taken as a whole, this central symbol puts me in mind of the targetting reticule in our ships HUD - all be it inverted.
Like this one:
Of course, that could just be because I'm a gimbal scrub, so here's a fixed gunsight, too:
Now, I'm not sure if this might mean that the outer details (hexagons, lines/lanes, dashes) all lead to the centre point, our target - in essence, Raxxla, or if it means we have to start from the centre, and work outwards.
This latter notion of starting in the middle and working outwards came when I read somewhere (I don't recall where! Only earlier today, or at earliest yesterday, too!) about the circle in the centre of the Raxxla logo being the Astronomical symbol for the sun.
Well, its the Astrological symbol for the sun, which since we're dealing with the myth, legend, conspiracy and superstition that is Raxxla, is close enough - I can feel all the astronomers giving me the stink eye for that one!
Ok, the Sun. Sol. Do we start there? Is the end there? I have a Sol permit (Beta backer), never used in 5 years, maybe its time I went 'Home'.
But what if its not Sol?
What?
I'll come back to this in a bit.
But for now, something else to consider.
The Dark Wheel.
Their Toast, specifically:
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void! The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!"
This is probably not an original suggestion - but has anyone tried reading it as a set of directions? A road map to Raxxla, of sorts?
I'm sure many people have, but I'm going to suggest it and have a try anyway
Ok, so earlier, I said I felt the symbol makes the number 6 significant.
Working from that premise, I can get six points of reference from 'the toast':
1: To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
2: To the whisperer in witchspace
3: the siren of the deepest void!
4: The parent's grief
5: the lover's woe
6: and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
Reading it 'straight up' without 6 being significant, can pare it down to three:
1: To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
2: To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!
3: The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
But for now I'm sticking with six - its my 'pet theory' for now, and reducing to three puts a lot of parameters on 3, whilst pretty much guaranteeing 2 is in some way 'Thargoids, Listy!'
So, suggestions for where these 6 points of mine might be (I don't claim a full set of answers, otherwise I'd be posting screenies of Raxxla and declaring 'Oooooh!!!!!!!!! Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Found it! Raxxla is mine LULZ!') are listed below:
1: To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
Ok, so this is where it gets mythological, as noted in my previous post.
Mother of galaxies = Mother Deity(ies). Bear with me. There are many Mother Deities from many mythologies, so we need to narrow it down a bit, and justify that conflation with galaxies. So. In Ancient Egypt the Milky Way was a symbol of fertility, and the Nile, wich meant fertility of the adjoining land, which meant survival for the people of Egypt. So there's my conflation
Egyptian Mother Deities? Isis. There are others (notably Sopdet, later conflated with Isis, who was associated with the star Sirius). But lets stick with Isis, she's pretty much THE Egyptian Mother Deity - also, she wore a headress. Two horns supporting a 'sun disk, or 'the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies'!
So, we could be back to starting at Sol. But there is also a star bearing Isis' name. There's Sirius to consider, if we accept Sopdet as a sort of prot-Isis. There are several other stars that I found in the Galmap named after mother deities - Ishtar and Hathor, and there are doubtless more!
I'm going to stick with Sol, Isis or Sirius as possibilities for now.
2: To the whisperer in witchspace.
This ones a toughie. the obvious thing to want to do is link it to Thargoids. But they're not a place. Now, I remember reading somewhere, last time I was playing (so around two years ago) about legends of pilots seeing 'cities' in witchspace - anyone know what I mean? If anyone could point me at those I'd appreciate it.
But 'cities in witchspace' aren't a place we can readily get to atm.
Could 'whisperer in witchspace' reference transmissions, either sent or received? Like the Thargoid probe (yay, linked it to Thargoids anyway!) at, iirc, Merope 5 C, beaming transmissions to Col 70 space? So, Merope? Col70?
Not sure at all on this one, but with the Pleiades getting a look in at 3, lets plonk for Col70, for now.
3: the siren of the deepest void!
My first thought on this one was 'somewhere in the Formidine Rift' - confalting the rift with 'deepest void'. I'd have to learn a lot more about the FR mystery to support that idea, I think. Also, the FR is out in the same direction as at least one, maybe two, of my later ideas for 5 and 6, so I'll put the FR down as a 'no' for now.
Back to Mythology, then?
Ok, why? 'the SIREN of the deepest void'. I didn't find a list of Mythological Siren names to check the Galmap with until just this minute as a I write this, but I did recall the Pleiades, the '7 sisters' are connected to 'the Oceanids' (sea nymphs, close enough to sirens, right?) through the name Asterope and/or Sterope, so lets narrow down to one of those two stars.
'Deepest void' in this case referencing the ocean habitat of the Sirens/Oceanids.
4: The parent's grief
Ok, so for this one I confess I started out mythological once again, scouring classical myths for grieving parents.
Then it occured to me. Elite has its own grieving parent. And they are linked to a stellar location.
John Jameson.
HIP 12099.
5: The lover's woe
This can only be 'a broken heart'. The only stellar location I can come up with for that is the Heart Nebula, so that's what I'm riding with for 5 atm.
6: and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
At first I focused too much on the heart side of this. What would a 'nomad heart' want most? A companion? A mate. A soul mate. THe Soul Nebula?
To close, literally and figuratively, to the Heart Nebula under 5, so discarded that.
Focus instead on the vagabond part. What might a nomad, a wanderer, a seeker want? A home, perhaps? Who is this wanderer? the player(s), perhaps (if I may be so meta!)?
And recalling that 'you have to be Elite to find it' remark attributed to the Devs (maybe even DBOBE himself, I forget specifically), then perhaps that home could be none other than Shinrarta Dezhra!
Ok, wow. Thats a lot of speculation, supposition, tinfoil, flakey reasoning and dodgy premises to be going on with for now!
But, erm, there's more!
So, are these six points a literal map? Start at 1, travel through 2,3,4,5 to 6, find Raxxla? That whould pretty much imply that Raxxla is found, it's Shinrarta Dezhra, and Raxxla was the friends we made along the way!
Woot! Hurrah! Zomg!
Yeah, I find that as unsatisfying as you did, reading that, too!
So what if these six places/points are clues to Raxxla, in some way?
Go to each (in specific order, or at random?), find clues there, assemble clues, travel to Raxxla/next layer of Mystery?
Could be.
But what if we combine my mad ravings on these six locations with my earlier ravings on the Raxxla symbol...?
Six side. Six lanes/lines. Six locations. A target in the centre of them all.
What then?
So, ok, those six locations. Array them around the outside of the Raxxla Hexagon. From pure arbitrary force of human-o-centric habit, put 1 at the top, 2-6 following clockwise.
Ok, the six lanes/lines now become lines linking opposite locations, until we have a common point where the three lines (linking six dots) meet in the 'centre'.
It doesn't have to be a literal centre point - the reglar lines and hexagons of the symbol could be an abstraction just to show six points to be linked, where the lines cross 'bingo!'.
I haven't done this part of the exercise yet - find the Galmap tricksy to manipulate for long periods of time. My normaly great sense of spatial awareness and relationships seems to quickly drain away when I'm in there!
Just to stir/season the pot one last time maybe the 'arc's around the centre circle are meant to block the 3 lines/lanes from the edges, filtering the 6 linked points down to 3 points to triangulate between. The result should be broadly similar though, right? A nominally central point?
There be Raaxla! Or at least, the next layer of the mystery, waiting to be unravelled.
Or a monument of crumpled lumps of tinfoil, accreted from the hats of all prior Raxxla Questors to pass this way only to depart, disappointed, they where on the wrong track all along?
Ok, so, thats really all of my mad ravings on the Quest for Raxxla so far!
None of it is presented as 'full and final form, a solid theory of where and how to Find Raxxla'.
Its more 'the stream of conciousness ravings of another tinfoil lunatic' presented here in case there are scraps of good idea's, or the germ of a productive clue for someone else to incubate.
Have at it! Build it up! tear it down! Expound upon the idea's within, or shut them down and gently bury them!
let me knoiw if you find anything of merit in these crazed imaginings. Or if its all just a re-hass from something 667 pages ago that I simply never noticed!).
If you read all this - thanks for sticking with it, hope it wasn't a total waste of your time!
Bonus tinfoil:
Am I the only one that sees the Raxxla symbol every time they're in the docking bay...?
PS: It's late, I'm tired, and I should be in bed, so if there's a million typo's, run-on sentences that make no sense, etc, my apologies, I'll try and catch 'em all over time!
PPS: If I suddenly disappear, you know I'm on to something, and the Dark Wheel done disappeared me!
Yes, a lot of the stuff about the raxxla symbol seems to clearly relate to certain base potentially. We went over a bunch of specifics and found some interesting correlations at one point. I can't remember what they all were though.
There are a lot of oddities like the 3 partial circle bar things around the dot is the same as certain UI elements. But it's upside down. That is a common theme. Stuff is upside down.
The 2d representation has multiple 3d/4d representations. One is a tesseract. I think someone pointed out that tesseracts and other things have to do with 3d coordinates also or something similar to that.
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I think it is the error in the interpretation of the astronomical data by the game engine. Beta 2 Scorpii is the triple star system - Graffiias + B (https://eddb.io/body/16390446) and + that HD 144218 (double star) that rotating around the A+B at 2,2 ly distance
P.S. I'm sorry. In real life Graffias itself is the double star also. And overall it is six stars in the system.
P.S. I'm sorry. In real life Graffias itself is the double star also. And overall it is six stars in the system.
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Pretty sure tht syatems not showing on Galmap are a bug mentioned to be fixed in Jan update, maybe wrong but too lazy to check on listed bug fixes.
From the Update Thread, First one is pretty general so could be included in that.:
- Fixed an issue that prevented the search function on the Galaxy Map from working correctly.
- Fixed incorrect system description for 'Alioth'.
- Fixed a small typo in the description of "HR 7221 Wheat"
Cassiopeia: The Banished Queen Ruling the Night Sky
Cassiopeia is one of the most familiar constellations in the night sky, and she hosts a range of interesting star clusters — as well as a legend of arrogance, jealousy and enraged gods.
Is RA possibly part of what Raxxla is? I assume this is part of a coordinate system. Does anyone know what it is? Maybe XXLA is part of the games designations while RA is from this system. Right Ascension?! Part of the sky from a certain point. I'll assume england or something. Now sure where that is usually referenced from.
Does the story have anything to do with peter pan? I'm assuming the lovers woah has to do with the story of the queen and here daughter somehow. I'm assuming the 6 references make a 3d coordiante system indicating where something is. There is a star in cassiopeia's head to start with. I'll assume it involve her and her hustand and her daughter as one set. and maybe another set of 3 dots with other elemnts in the story. The owl maybe? It was part of the perseus story. I think he rescues her.
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Anybody working on boosting tdw faction they are being dominated by fong wang (lol) in lft 926 and will be losing delany colony. Specifically if you are trying to get that dw invite for Raxxla info (probably lies). Pitter patter
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There's no system of that name in the game, at least when entered into the Galaxy Map search function. His ship was called that though? Which system do you mean?
Right Ascension and Declination are astronomical coordinates for the night sky, used all over the world. Their reference points are above/below the ecliptic, basically an "equator" (a great circle on the celestial sphere representing the sun's apparent path during the year, so called because lunar and solar eclipses can only occur when the moon crosses it) for declination, and Right Ascension is counted in minutes and hours around the ecliptic from the First Point of Aries, the location of the vernal equinox. As it's the real-life common astronomical coordinate system used for describing positions of stars, constellation etc from Earth it's unlikely to have anything to do with Raxxla.
What if it's something like RA 24 24 12 1? Where would that be? Maybe Raxxla tells us the RA coordinate for something.
Right ascension - Wikipedia
RA 24 degrees 24 hours 12 minutes 1 second!?
Does the full circle remind anyone of past ideas on Raxxla?
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Oops, wrong reference obviously. From memory...Euraxia? Whatever it is means good with words, opposite of Dyslexia. Don't think I have it bookmarked either, its on DW blog or Twitter feed for sure, that's where I read it. Someone must know? Pretty sure its Eur and theres an X in there.
I see this has been going for years. Seems to be very in depth. Where is this thread at as far as the main hypothesis now?
What “main hypothesis”??
The only one I know of is “Raxxla exists, it’s in-game, in the Milky Way and FD know where it is (& maybe why nobody has found it)”
Tinfoil time:
The codex entry states that "several versions of the story mention an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift". An alien artefact was found on Mars. Zeus placed the Omphalos Stone at Delphi to mark “the middle of the world”. Zeus lived on Mount Olympus. There is an Olympus Village on Mars. The Omphalos Stone supposedly allowed communication with the gods.
Hypothesis- the alien artefact found on Mars was a Guardian device providing communication with the Guardian network. This has been kept secret within, and reserved to, the highest levels of the Federation elite, and likely would have influenced Jasmina Halsey’s visions.
Struggle builds character.
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