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just my theory has a very good justification
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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just my theory has a very good justification
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I wasnt trying to display disbelief. I dont mean to sound as such. I think its a good theory too. I havent really had a good one in almost a year, and it turned out not very good in the end. Just sharing my thoughts and what little insights i have.
due to the translation, apparently they did not quite understand each other, everything is fine=)
You’ve been here a long time, as I understand it, tell me, and you were looking for the voices that were in the ship Thetis?
No. I havent figured much of the riddle out at all. Most of my knowledge in game comes from this thread and a few posts and youtube videos from guru-951.
Most of my theories were based on comparing the Raxxla image to things in game with similar shapes from different angles.
One involved how close the Raxxla image looked compared to a specific image of a tesseract, but without any ideas of where we should be looking.
Another was, i thought the guardian beacon from a certain perspective looked very similar to the Raxxla image's specific shape, but still no real idea of how to use that.
I wish i could be more useful to the thread but im just learning as info comes along.
I cant find either images to display anymore but they are buried in this thread, somewhere in the last 300 pages or so.
I suspect there’s a strong link between Raxxla and either Guardians or Thargoids. To me the “xx” sounds suspiciously like the grating of a claw on a wingcase (
), it sounds like an alien name, but I think Guardian rather than Goid. It seems to fit the lore better, and I think the alien artefact on Mars is a clue hence my current emphasis on searching Sol.It would make sense for a mission chain to lead us towards it, and would fit with DB’s stated expectations of the way gameplay would unfold. If it is in Sol then it’s hidden or permit-locked (Triton lock has always seemed suspicious). I had a tip-off the other day from Sol Nationalists (or similar), but it was a massacre mission & I’m too old, slow reflexes, rheumaticky and just not interested in that side of play. I have only done missions for Mother Gaia in Sol, so don’t know why I should get a tip-off from that faction, if there is a reason other than rng with sufficient time in-system (which is what I suspect for TO missions, though follow-on missions seem a little different and may be more pertinent).
I agree most tip-off missions are probably RNG. I still think it would be a good place to hide something significant. that way everybody wouldn't easily find something.
I wouldn't thank google translate too early. It looks like your written English is far far better than google translate
A lot of missions have follow-on missions including Sol factions. I like your thinking about how we are 'expected' to play the game, as in how they thought we would, not how they think we should. I know DB has said he expected people to jump around more, instead we tended to stay in one spot and investigate and explore every inch of it, no idea if that just means they built a bigger inhabited bubble and put more things in more system so more activity or something more meaningful though.
I feel I need to respond to this since I was intrigued by your first suggestion back here.
Nothing new discovered, it's just a journey on the internets. Have a biscuit and a cup of coffee instead.
WARNING - this is a story of Yak-shaving.
Progress beyond this point AT YOUR OWN PERIL < ----- POINT
Distraction 1 - newscientist.com/article-type/astrophile/
I noticed that it's a series of articles with multiple authors. It was quite frequent as editorial/series, but it has since slowed down.
Astrophile news, articles and features | New Scientist
www.newscientist.com
I skimmed the 50 pages or so just to see if I could find any relevant stories in the time-frame given for ED release and the "Lyta Crate" + Astrophile context in the Lore.
Nothing stands out. And no "L. Crane" authors as far as I can see.
"Journalist" reference still nagged my mind, so I kept reading.
I was intrigued by many of the references to scientific articles, aka this one: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23282-astrophile-dizzy-dwarf-star-will-spin-itself-to-death/
Protip, bing/google:
site:newscientist.com astrophile arxiv.orgAt the end there is a "Journal reference: arxiv.org/abs/1302.4634".
I then noticed arxiv.org listings; "astro-ph"
Physics
- Astrophysics (astro-ph new, recent, search)
includes: Astrophysics of Galaxies; Cosmology and Nongalactic Astrophysics;
Earth and Planetary Astrophysics; High Energy Astrophysical Phenomena;
Instrumentation and Methods for Astrophysics; Solar and Stellar Astrophysics
Distraction 2 - https://arxiv.org/list/astro-ph/recent
astro-ph is a huge area so I tried a few keywords like "Lyta Crane", "Tornqvist", "Omphalos" and a few more.
I'm not sure whether https://arxiv.org/list/astro-ph.HE/ could be of interest, so I did some similar searches there.
Searching for "L. Crane" in the archives actually gave me some results. One of them stood out.
But quite quickly I understood it wasn't relevant due to the full author name being Luis Crane.
Still interested?
Are Black Hole Starships Possible
We investigate whether it is physically possible to build starships or power sources using the Hawking radiation of an artificial black hole as a power source. The proposal seems to be at the edge of possibility, but quantum gravity effects could change the picture.
arxiv.org
You can grab the PDF from that page if you're in for one heck of interesting read. only if you're a total nerd like me that is.
Dig into the math speculating the size of a small BH to power a starhip.
Distraction 3 - Omphalos references
As part of this hobby to dig up things from the internets, Omphalos does have some references in Physics.
Source https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/entropy-information-and-omphalos-cosmology.126157/
I have not dug into it as of this stage.
Omphalos (book) - Wikipedia
What I learned - conclusion;
Shaved a few Yak's. Spent hours on hours just reading on the internets without making any progress.
I feel wiser now.
Did I make you go shaving a Yak too?
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Lyta is not really a name.. that may be good or bad. My 1st guess was LYTA are all star classes, but I've not got anywhere wit that either. Astrophil not really related to Lyta crane - one is TDW , the other is Raxxla - it may be a mistake to join the codex entries in this way, but link Astophil with Astro-physics in general may be helpful..
Spiralling stars might point to merger events for detecting gravity waves, but unfortunately these events are all outside the milky way.
Spiralling stars might point to merger events for detecting gravity waves, but unfortunately these events are all outside the milky way.
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I tend to agree with you, I was just messing about to see if any references popped out though. And you see where it lead me ...
EDIT: Still trying to see if LYTA can be some other kind of reference in physics as well. I doubt the codex entries have such relevant reference or meaning though.
I doubt FD coming up with such an elaborate piece and non-coherent 'hoax'. But this is the first time we actively use the codex as part of the metadata to solve the mystery.
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raxxla ....if we are to believe the elite dangerous universe timeline, almost certainly is within 300 ly of sol as there are less than 300 years since space travel to other systems began and the first mention of raxxla and the fastest ships could travel at this time appears to be 1ly per year.
We've already had hints from fdev employees that it's near the bubble, so this fits.
Since it hasn't been "discovered" yet as any given planet. ..i'm convinced still that the beans were semi-spilled and that it is an object hiding in a roid belt. Most of these are unexplored in-person (normal space) even in the bubble.
I'd say that sphere of searching is really the best guess.
We've already had hints from fdev employees that it's near the bubble, so this fits.
Since it hasn't been "discovered" yet as any given planet. ..i'm convinced still that the beans were semi-spilled and that it is an object hiding in a roid belt. Most of these are unexplored in-person (normal space) even in the bubble.
I'd say that sphere of searching is really the best guess.
Have we? Last I heard we had 'its in the Milky Way' as the only location indicator, have I missed something?
IIRC, miss-jump was shortly in the early version (beta ?) of ED, but was soon removed?
In a book it was joystick down (or up) and engines shut down during the countdown.
Some weird interaction at Asellus Primus B (which is a loooong trip to get too).I've been also looking for nuggets in PAX East 2017 - Interview with David Braben and If these are CMDR Braben's ship locations, why Asellus Primus? Except the 8th 'moon' is a sun that's the right colour for TDW station image and it's a casual 5M LS away from entry point! Will check it out after I finish my journey to Voyager.
Edit: Ugh, exited super-cruise at Voyager and ended appearing at SOL (Sun). Grr.. fine checking out AP now!
I don't expect much except a lot of integrity damage to my trusty AspX explorer ship from the long trip, but will keep you posted.
Fly Dangrously!
/ Ra.
Probably bugs, or if I'm thinking positively
It doesn't discount the system importance though, since DB doesn't just 'randomly' put things into his video streams. After watching a lot of them I get the impression he likes to drop these little teasers to intrigue and aid people subtly.
And my scanners are awesome - Engineering you just can't by today! I picked up a Wake signal 5M ls away.
Edit: Seems to have been an instance blip - re-logged to check Open again, Private Group and Solo and all appears 'normal'. I still see some ships but the contact visible and lost doesn't seem to be occurring.
So that'll teach me to be positive! [Slap] Ok, back to my pessimistic searching with some mild optimism.
/ Ra.
New Contact / Contact Lost usually refers to USS that have timers before degrading. If youre lucky you farm a HGE one that respawns as you pick it up. Easiest way is to use FSS to find the new signals if nowhere near a nav beacon. Nav Beacon resolves all signals and current USS even if they aren't on your NavPanel yet.
Yeah I used to farm HGE that way when I was heavily engineering.
For the Asellus Primus system, I checked the FSS and actually scanned all the new signals for the entire system (~40) and again when I arrived at 'B', just to make sure there wasn't something hiding nearby that I couldn't see. I checked all new signals as they appeared just in case... which were all 0.19ly away, and alas no hiding DW station.
I'm actually still out there. Wondering why there is a MK3 Cobra just circling. If they were from TDW I'd call it, but alas they're just from the local faction.
/ Ra
I tend to agree with you, I was just messing about to see if any references popped out though. And you see where it lead me ...
EDIT: Still trying to see if LYTA can be some other kind of reference in physics as well. I doubt the codex entries have such relevant reference or meaning though.
I doubt FD coming up with such an elaborate piece and non-coherent 'hoax'. But this is the first time we actively use the codex as part of the metadata to solve the mystery.
Lyta Crane is at least an interesting name. It's anagrams contains several funny words, like Cat, Art and Lyre.
I dabbled a bit with the Lyre / Lyra / Lyra variety, because of Vega and stellar princesses and all that.
My best find is the Anagram: T Lyrae can.
T Lyare (HIP 90883 in ED) is a Binary system with a carbon main star. That would take care of T Lyrae a C (HIP 90883 a is a C class star) and just leave the N. I haven't scanned it, so I dont know if the star is actually a C-N class.
The N could also be a counter. As the 14 letter in the alphabet, it could point to the 14th planet: HIP 90883 A 2f. This is the 8th moon of the A 2 gas giant.
EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map
The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.
www.edsm.net
T Lyrae is also known as "The Jewel in the Harp": http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/tlyr.html
That name is sometimes applied to Vega, as well.
I haven't had the chance to visit and probably wan't for a few day. If anyone is close, you could take a look.
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That sounds like an amazing set of coincidences.
Incidentally I try not to believe in coincidence too much
Incidentally I try not to believe in coincidence too much
not so (quote from other threads here):
22nd Century - Hyperspace Travel (of some sort) Invented.
2800 - Faraway Jump (used navigational systems to make Hyperspace safer - took hundreds of years to establish)
3100 - Quirium Drive (Single-ship safe Hyperdrive jumping using 'Quirium' as 'fuel')
3200 - Class 2B (Totally different type of Hyperdrive, possible wormhole travel)
3300 - FSD (Almost exactly the same as the Quirium Drive, but longer range and not Quirium Fuelled)
In addition there is some conjecture that the timelines for FTL travel have been altered. Haven't got a reference for this but I know Drew Wagar was exercised about it.
Jason Ryder could have traveled 10kly on his search for Raxxla - he had months or years to do it and the ships of that time were not constrained to jump only to stars - they could be just plotted through space 7ly at time. See the Dark wheel novella where Alex and Elyssia hyperspace to Rafe Zetter's ship 0.1ly out away from Tionisla, for instance..
Either you can provide evidence or this is not true.
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Yeah, there are a few good hits in that hypothesis. The old Greek myth of the Lyre also fits well with the DW toast.
Orpheus, it's owner was one of the Argonauts(vagabonds) and quelled the voices of the sirens with his music. He also went to the underworld (deepest void) to retrieve his dead lover.
He was also was a founder and prophet of the Orphic mysteries.
Lyra - Wikipedia
Orpheus - Wikipedia
Orphism - Wikipedia
Sounds like something The Dark Wheel could relate to?