The Quest To Find Raxxla

Mr House Wins

Mr House Wins
Given what little we do know, my personal theory is that it’s permit locked somewhere in the COL 70 Sector between the Bubble and Barnards Loop. It wouldn’t make sense for it to be on the other side of the galaxy if a corp of Elite pilots are already on the planet and have been there for hundreds of years before the advent of FSD technology.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Mr House Wins said:
Give what little we do know, my personal theory is that it’s permit locked somewhere in the COL 70 Sector between the Bubble and Barnards Loop. It wouldn’t make sense for it to be on the other side of the galaxy if a corp of Elite pilots are already on the planet and have been there for hundreds of years before the advent of FSD technology.
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Well all the Thargoids seem to be elite, & nowhere does it say (I think) that those elite pilots have to be human :D[alien]
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Jorki Rasalas said:
Well all the Thargoids seem to be elite, & nowhere does it say (I think) that those elite pilots have to be human :D[alien]
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TDW describes them: 'They're powerful, twisted men'.

Thargoids are not men. They are all female.

Guardians on the other hand, comes in both types.
 

Louis Calvert

Louis Calvert
Sure but TDW also describes smuggling Tharglets, Thargoids and Oresrians being different (but virtually visually identical species), and loads of crazy Mos Eisley Cantina aliens all over the place. It's entirely possible that those old crazy drunk-on-lavian-brandy inspired tales might have got a few details corrupted in the retellings...

[video=youtube;yz9RSk7SAvI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz9RSk7SAvI[/video]
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Louis Calvert said:
Sure but TDW also describes smuggling Tharglets, Thargoids and Oresrians being different (but virtually visually identical species), and loads of crazy Mos Eisley Cantina aliens all over the place. It's entirely possible that those old crazy drunk-on-lavian-brandy inspired tales might have got a few details corrupted in the retellings...
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Well ... we have to remember that everything that came after the original Elite and The Dark Wheel has been a retcon or, more correctly, a complete reboot of the Elite universe. The original Elite had a universe populated by all kinds of strange lifeforms.

Our task, when reading The Dark Wheel now, is to read it in light of everything that has come after it ... which means ignoring every reference to Aliens (including the reference to Oresrians hanging out at human starports).

Things we know: Alex Ryder did exist. His existence is confirmed in And Here the Wheel. We also know from that source that The Dark Wheel existed as well and was hell bent on finding Raxxla. Drew Wagar's Premonition hints pretty closely toward Rebecca's companion at the Tionisla Graveyard being the same Elyssia Fields that met Alex at that very same graveyard. I don't think that much else from the Novella has been confirmed by other sources.
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Louis Calvert said:
I know, I was attempting to make a joke about using TDW to "prove" anything :)
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Oh sure. Thing is ... TDW proves a whole lot. There are more elements from The Dark Wheel and original game manual that have been confirmed by canonical sources then there are elements that have been dismissed. For instance; the aforementioned Oresrian. We know Oresrians exist and we owe their existence to that passage from Holdstock. The exact circumstance in which the Oresrian was encountered in The Dark Wheel is incongruous but the basic details are spot on.
 

MakashiGames

MakashiGames
I don't really think there is enough content in TDW to draw any legitimate conclusions on this quest though.

(Unless of course I read an adjunct version or something - it was the version on the authors website?)

It feels like the idea of the book was to inspire the chase, but give absolutely no legitimate direction to that chase.

If it has been confirmed that Frontier stated Raxxla was in the original game - and then in hindsight this statement has been disproved... I am tempted to err on the side of caution and presume that they lied again about ED. Whilst the galaxy is huge and thus it COULD be there.... it is clear from the manner in which discoveries have happened so close to release that Frontier are drip feeding content into the game at their leisure.

I wish we could get an official statement confirming 100%, in no uncertain terms, that Raxxla can be found in a system, using an Advanced Discovery Scanner, flown up to, scanned using the DSS, and clearly identified as THE Raxxla. @FrontierSupport - any chances of this reassurance?

On a slight tangent - is anyone here contributing to the guardians CG?

EDIT: I have also popped this on Reddit - praying to get enough attention to get some sort of affirmation from Frontier :S
 
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Louis Calvert

Louis Calvert
MakahiGames said:
I don't really think there is enough content in TDW to draw any legitimate conclusions on this quest though.

(Unless of course I read an adjunct version or something - it was the version on the authors website?)

It feels like the idea of the book was to inspire the chase, but give absolutely no legitimate direction to that chase.

If it has been confirmed that Frontier stated Raxxla was in the original game - and then in hindsight this statement has been disproved... I am tempted to err on the side of caution and presume that they lied again about ED. Whilst the galaxy is huge and thus it COULD be there.... it is clear from the manner in which discoveries have happened so close to release that Frontier are drip feeding content into the game at their leisure.

I wish we could get an official statement confirming 100%, in no uncertain terms, that Raxxla can be found in a system, using an Advanced Discovery Scanner, flown up to, scanned using the DSS, and clearly identified as THE Raxxla. @FrontierSupport - any chances of this reassurance?

On a slight tangent - is anyone here contributing to the guardians CG?
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100% definitely confirmed Raxxla has never been in any game prior to Elite Dangerous (it wasn't even mentioned in any of the in-game journals or missions, for example). This has been confirmed in the subsequent years by people who have basically picked apart the code for those games. If Raxxla was there hidden somewhere in FE2 or FFE in the galaxy, it wasn't called Raxxla.

Raxxla is 100% definitely confirmed in Elite Dangerous - we've quoted both DB and MB several times on this thread alone where they confirm it is, the quote is something like "Yes it's in the Milky Way and we know where it is". They have never claimed we can currently find it though.

That it literally the summation of what we actually know about Raxxla. All else is pure speculation, and even in the past few years of ED's existance there's already been a lot of rumour and misrepresentation from people claiming a thing has been said that hasn't, or not checking sources and believing something someone else said, etc, and as Jaiotu said, that's really where the fun is. It might not be a planet, it might not be accessible, it might be there but called something else until the time is right to reveal it, etc. It might be invisible, like the comets current are - BUT! It might be possible to find it today, you might be the one to find it...
 
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MakashiGames

MakashiGames
Louis Calvert said:
1It might not be a planet, it might not be accessible, it might be there but called something else until the time is right to reveal it, etc. It might be invisible, like the comets current are - BUT! It might be possible to find it today, you might be the one to find it...
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Wait what - comets are there, but invisible? I.e.. they have a hit box and I could hit one without seeing what I was going to hit :S!

That's madness ha!
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
MakahiGames said:
Wait what - comets are there, but invisible? I.e.. they have a hit box and I could hit one without seeing what I was going to hit :S!

That's madness ha!
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There was a patch where for a brief time you could see comets listed in universal cartographics when you sold the data. Kind of hinting the system has some sort of support for them. Maybe either stuff that never made the cut for release, or planned future content.
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
MakahiGames said:
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I wish we could get an official statement confirming 100%, in no uncertain terms, that Raxxla can be found in a system, using an Advanced Discovery Scanner, flown up to, scanned using the DSS, and clearly identified as THE Raxxla. @FrontierSupport - any chances of this reassurance?

On a slight tangent - is anyone here contributing to the guardians CG?

EDIT: I have also popped this on Reddit - praying to get enough attention to get some sort of affirmation from Frontier :S
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Disagreed.

It's going to be a very disappointing version of Raxxla if it can be found the way you're asking for.

What's supposed to have happened, that the people on Raxxla have decided their 'kill anyone who finds the slightest shred of real evidence that it exists' policy, and changed it to a 'let's actually just register it with UC the PF so we can make sure that it's shown in big bold letters to anyone who stumbles across it"?

Personally I want FD to do something that's in keeping with the myths and legends.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Han_Zen said:
TDW describes them: 'They're powerful, twisted men'.

Thargoids are not men. They are all female.

Guardians on the other hand, comes in both types.
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Could be mysoginistic propaganda. ;)
Besides, don’t some species of insect change gender depending on requirements?
I for one have no problem with our overlords actually being overladies! :D
 

Mr House Wins

Mr House Wins
Jorki Rasalas said:
Well all the Thargoids seem to be elite, & nowhere does it say (I think) that those elite pilots have to be human :D[alien]
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As completely implausible as that is, if true it would only lend credence to my theory of Raxxla being near the Bubble, as the Thargoids started appearing relatively nearby in the Pleiades and somewhat close to the Col 70 Sector.
 
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