Tell me this is a fictional story or not?
 
Tell me this is a fictional story or not?
Based specifically on the section it's in and the way people are responding to it I would say it's fiction. And realistically, backstory lore in a video game is fiction even if it's canonical
 
Yeah it refers to an old fan base in Eastern Europe, I thought it was Russian but they say Finland magazine so maybe wider.

They wrote some stories, fan fiction, on message boards or that made it into magazines or fanzines and got confused with canonical lore, bits of it all over this thread for one.

The last bit (The P.S. and some later posts) about a version of Raxxla being in some games I dont have enough info about. Ive heard that it was all purely fan fiction / hoax that they 'found' Raxxla in game but Ive also heard that they hacked the game and wrote it in for the purpose of the story / hoax and even that a version with the hack was widely shared in certain fan circles and therefore played by a lot of people who then repeated it as fact either knowing it to be a hacked version with a hacker placed Raxxla or unknowingly believing it was an original version and it was in there. (Eastern Europe / Russia / Finland?) I dont know how much if any of this paragraph is true, I havent seen the original magazines or message boards where it happened and even then would need translating. I havent seen any evidence or screenshots or anything from anyone who posted it originally, all I have is verbal anecdotes and long lost tales and 'I heard this...'.

Eastern Europe is only significant because at the time we had The Cold War and relations and communications between East & West were very limited, meaning especially in USSR and satellites fans could be self-contained in their own groups and develop their own lore within it and maybe without access to outside 'proper' lore depending on censorship. So a lot of the info came out afterwards and is not from source.

Either way its all just fan fiction, we know Raxxla hasnt been in any published authorised versions of the game. It wasnt even mentioned in E2 & E3 iirc, not even in lore.
 
Think I’m coming down with a case of terminal ennui!
if it's boring, let's discuss the theory that there are hidden missions at certain stations, with the help of which the case may move further)
Or we will discuss a toast)) I now think that the true polar star is the pearl in the crown, but what can be a whisper, I don’t know ((
 
just agents of the dark wheel began to eliminate those who approached the solution

I may have been abducted,
and taken to some dimly lit station for interrogation,
and some enthusiastic re-education,
by a group of clandestine individuals,
about some dim memory I have of Operation Less Than Three...

However I escaped in a suicide-winder left hot in the dock, I've used every ounce of mental resource I possessed and I refused to succumb to their veiled threats and innuendos and after a long stint in recovery (and lots of Lavian Brandy) I'm back in the black cmdrs.

Unfortunately, I still can't find that damn startport, nor have they 'invited' me for a more civilized chat.

I live in hope! ;)
/Ra.
 
I may have been abducted,
and taken to some dimly lit station for interrogation,
and some enthusiastic re-education,
by a group of clandestine individuals,
about some dim memory I have of Operation Less Than Three...

However I escaped in a suicide-winder left hot in the dock, I've used every ounce of mental resource I possessed and I refused to succumb to their veiled threats and innuendos and after a long stint in recovery (and lots of Lavian Brandy) I'm back in the black cmdrs.

Unfortunately, I still can't find that damn startport, nor have they 'invited' me for a more civilized chat.

I live in hope! ;)
/Ra.
if you were kidnapped, you know who, then you would simply have your memory corrected and you would work in the library)))
 
I may have been abducted,
and taken to some dimly lit station for interrogation,
and some enthusiastic re-education,
by a group of clandestine individuals,
about some dim memory I have of Operation Less Than Three...

However I escaped in a suicide-winder left hot in the dock, I've used every ounce of mental resource I possessed and I refused to succumb to their veiled threats and innuendos and after a long stint in recovery (and lots of Lavian Brandy) I'm back in the black cmdrs.

Unfortunately, I still can't find that damn startport, nor have they 'invited' me for a more civilized chat.

I live in hope! ;)
/Ra.

You’ve not been on holiday in Belarus have you?
 
if it's boring, let's discuss the theory that there are hidden missions at certain stations, with the help of which the case may move further)
Or we will discuss a toast)) I now think that the true polar star is the pearl in the crown, but what can be a whisper, I don’t know ((

I like the hypothesis that there are hidden missions, but where are they and how can they be unlocked? Until someone has some evidence to support it then it’s only a hypothesis, not a theory. 🙂

I’m not convinced by the polar star hypothesis. To me it’s far more likely that it’s Sol (there’s a suggestive Galnet
post), or Alpha Centauri, or Gemma (Alphekka), or V886 Centauri (“the diamond star”-check it out on Wikipedia, been used for SciFi plots that DB may have been aware of).

However in English “whisperer” can have two meanings- either someone who speaks very quietly in a whisper, or a very knowledgeable/capable person in a particular field (e.g. “horse whisperer”). So for me the second line of the toast that goes “To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void!” is highly suggestive of Sirius, since Sirius Inc are specialists in fsd (and, according to some in-game lore suggestions, who have undertaken dirty ops to hide their drive failures), and the siren of the deepest void is Lucifer, the planet by Sirius B and the fallen angel who whispered to Eve in the Garden of Eden and who was cast into the deepest void according to Milton’s Paradise Lost.

It’s the third line that I can’t solve! Not getting anywhere with interpretations via mythology. My previous Paradise Lost hypothesis (search this thread) suggested Alpha Centauri’s Eden.The “parent’s grief” is singular (only one parent), but FD are noted for frequently poor grammar so not a strong piece of evidence, however my Paradise Lost hypothesis fitted all three lines beautifully, but I didn’t find any trace of a stealth station at Eden (may only be instanced once you have the invitation) or Raxxla. sigh. 😢

To me the first three lines are directions, while the last “to Raxxla” is just a poetic ending. In a toast it’s likely that all three objects (one per line) are visible (& possibly equally spaced) from the place where the toast is said, so I think TDW stealth station. Alternatively it’s a quest guide, each line providing the next journey to take in the quest.
 
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It’s the third line that I can’t solve! Not getting anywhere with interpretations via mythology. My previous Paradise Lost hypothesis (search this thread) suggested Alpha Centauri’s Eden.The “parent’s grief” is singular (only one parent), but FD are noted for frequently poor grammar so not a strong piece of evidence, however my Paradise Lost hypothesis fitted all three lines beautifully, but I didn’t find any trace of a stealth station at Eden (may only be instanced once you have the invitation) or Raxxla. sigh. 😢

Oh I'm pretty sure what that one is.... and yes mythology... more than happy to share if you're interested :)

On the “To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void!” - I think it's the knowledgeable version too, but possibly Thargoids as they can pull you out of witch-space so obviously more knowledgeable than humans.

I also think Sirius is in there but for another reason...
 
Oh I'm pretty sure what that one is.... and yes mythology... more than happy to share if you're interested :)

On the “To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void!” - I think it's the knowledgeable version too, but possibly Thargoids as they can pull you out of witch-space so obviously more knowledgeable than humans.

I also think Sirius is in there but for another reason...

Oh definitely! Please share!
 
Oh I can't keep drip feeding... here you go.... LOL

The parent's grief
Anticlea in the Odyssey:
In Book XI of the Odyssey, Odysseus makes a trip to the underworld to seek the advice of the dead prophet Tiresias. In the underworld, he encounters many spirits, including that of his mother, Anticlea. Initially, he rebuffs her since he is waiting for the prophet to approach.

After speaking with Tiresias, however, Odysseus allows his mother to come near and lets her speak. She asks him why he is in the underworld while alive, and he tells her about his various troubles and failed attempts to get home. Then he asks her how she died and inquires about his family at home. She tells him that she died of grief, longing for him while he was at war.
 
The lover's woe
Dictionary definition of “woe”: noun, big problems or troubles:

  • “The country has been beset by economic woes for the past decade.”
  • “Unusually poor harvests have added to the country's woes.”

If Odysseus is the subject of this part of the toast then Penelope would be the lover; with respect to her problems (in addition to her husband’s non-return) it would point to the problem of the suitors and her attempts to avoiding marriage whilst the great wealth of Odysseus is being consumed. Further to this the suitors plotted to kill Odysseus should he return and also his son Telemachus on his return from searching for his father during his trip to Pylos and Sparta which Penelope feared and discusses with Eurymachus.
 
The yearning of our vagabond hearts

Odysseus is described in some translations as a “vagabond” or “beggar” when Athene transforms him in order to ensure he is not killed on his way home (BkXIII:416-440 Athene disguises Odysseus).

“Resourceful Odysseus replied: “Why did you not inform him, then, you whose mind is all-knowing? Did you want him too to suffer dangers, wandering the restless waves while others consumed his inheritance?”

Then Athene, of the flashing eyes, answered: “Don’t trouble your heart too greatly over him. I guided him, so he would win fame for travelling there, and he has no problems, sitting at ease in Menelaus’ palace, with all the luxuries he needs before him. Yes, those young men in their black ship wait to ambush him, keen to murder him before he reaches home, but that will not happen I think. The earth will close over those Suitors who steal your possessions, long before then.”

So saying, Athene touched him with her wand. She wrinkled the smooth skin on his supple limbs, and thinned the fine hair on his scalp, and gave him the body of an old man. She dimmed the beauty of his eyes, and dressed him differently, in a wretched cloak and ragged tunic, of tattered filthy smoke-grimed cloth. Then she flung a large deerskin, devoid of hair, over his shoulders, and handed him a staff, and a sorry-looking leather pouch, punctured here and there, hanging from a piece of braided cord.

When the two of them had made their mutual plans, they parted: and the goddess left for glorious Lacedaemon, to bring back Odysseus’ son.”




Odysseus yearning throughout the story is clearly to return home to Penelope, Telemachus and Ithica and reclaim his rightful place as the leader of Ithica.

Issues with the toast: “Vagabond Hearts” not “Vagabond’s heart”, would suggest the player’s hearts as all Elite players are essentially travelers in space and start as poor commanders of the smallest ship and looking to get home (or to Raxxla?).
 
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