Can't wait for this 21st century version of Planets of the Apes. How many gorillas does the US army have btw?
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Can't wait for this 21st century version of Planets of the Apes. How many gorillas does the US army have btw?
I'm sorry old friend. But that utopia you envision is simply a fantasy. Four degenerate people were swiftly brought to justice for their heinous acts. There will always be a certain amount of bad things that happen. What pulls us together as a community, society and nation is how well we react to such injustices. We don't always get it right, but by and large we do far more good then bad, and acting like the Floyd case is somehow commonplace and law enforcement is slaughtering people left and right along racial lines is, as I've pointed out earlier, extremely disingenuous. At best.
You can tell who the academics are in this conversation. Most people from that walk of life simply don't have the background in gritty reality to appreciate some of the points being raised.
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I take comfort in the fact that we've finally laid the mask of "muh science!" aside and are all just admitting that "science" has been replaced with "social opinion." I've always known it, but seeing it in the open finally is very refreshing
www.cnn.com
Over 1,000 health professionals sign a letter saying, Don't shut down protests using coronavirus concerns as an excuse | CNN
A group of health and medical colleagues has penned an open letter to express their concern that protests around the United States could be shut down under the guise of coronavirus health concerns. The letter -- which went on to draw more than 1,200 signatures -- focuses on techniques to...
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Where does it say 'social opinion'? I searched the page and found no matches, but you put it in quotes like it was something .. being quoted.I take comfort in the fact that we've finally laid the mask of "muh science!" aside and are all just admitting that "science" has been replaced with "social opinion." I've always known it, but seeing it in the open finally is very refreshing
Over 1,000 health professionals sign a letter saying, Don't shut down protests using coronavirus concerns as an excuse | CNN
A group of health and medical colleagues has penned an open letter to express their concern that protests around the United States could be shut down under the guise of coronavirus health concerns. The letter -- which went on to draw more than 1,200 signatures -- focuses on techniques to...
I know this is just a nastily worded insult, but I'll answer anyway: my position has been "let it rip" for months now. The sooner we all get this, the sooner we get back to living. My problem is with the double standard applied by those in charge, most especially health officials, who decried our peaceful protests while eagerly cheering on the BLM anarchy, rioting looting murders and general chaos. Personally, I don't find that very scientific. Of course I didn't get enough schooling to be conditioned to think with such a double standard, so you have to keep that in mind.
I used quotes to indicate paraphrasing.
Same thing over here. Any gathering with more than 10 people is disbanded by the police, there are still heavy restrictions in places of commerce. However, political parties / union rallies / protests with several thousands of people are allowed. Including an annual large fundraising music festival organized by the communist party (while all other music festivals are banned).
Result, most people here no longer give a damn, and the virus spread has now been rising consistently again for the past month and a tad, and even the public hospitals are dennouncing the official numbers to be under reporting the real number of confirmed new cases.
The only thing I know for sure is that I won't personally lose any more sleep over it, I'll keep myself and my family protected the best I can, and as for the rest qui sera, sera.
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Lolol. So, you just disregard the link I supplied literally stating that over a 1000 health officials endorse the protests? That's the "destruction of objective reality" I keep referring to right there
So in effect that was your 'social opinion' on the post. Ok.
I think you have a fundamental problem distinguishing scientists (people, with beliefs and views) from science (facts, peer reviewed for veracity). They are not the same thing, but you seem to confuse them. Scientists are like everyone else in that they can have beliefs and views that you might not like. But that does not invalidate the scientific results they publish.
No, just didn't buy the premise of a small group of Apes overthrowing humanity. And let's not start with the smart gas. I mean if it were that simple....
The letter explains there are two competing health concerns in the US.
The 'medical and scientific community' is a global entity, Jason. That means it includes 'places not part of the United States of America. In fact, most places on the planet are, believe it or not, not part of the USA is. The medical and scientific consensus is very clear: mass gatherings are not a good thing when it comes to the spreading of COVID19. Now, in the USA there is another health concern for a vast part of the population. So that means the USA has got to balance two problems and find the best solution for the local situation. That has nothing to do with 'medical consensus on gatherings during a pandemic'.
Finally, and as always: medical consensus is not based on open letters, blogs, opinion pieces or what your uncle said. I'm not sure how often this has to be explained, but medical/scientific consensus is based on peer-reviewed published scientific studies. You will not find many studies saying:"go mingle during a pendemic, its cool yo!". There is a clear medical consensus that that is not a good thing, in itself. How that should be balanced with other health concerns in a local context is something else, and has nothing to do with this consensus.
But we've been over this many times and it never quite sinks in, unfortunately.
Exactly, but this has been discussed endlessly unfortunately. If someone wants to discuss science, they citate scientific works and link to scientific journals. If you link to CNN/FOX, youtube or some random blog you are discussing opinions which may or may not be driven by some scientific findings. Properly digesting scientific literature is not trivial though, and many people don't even have proper access to most journals to begin with. So we end up with cherry-picked stuff from the blogosphere to prop-up our opinions. Which tends to be not very enlightening or helpful if your goal is to figure out how stuff works. But its cool if you approach any topic from a 'culture wars' perspective where any random event is a new opportunity to score points for your team.
Oh well. Gotta catch a train, so have to go find my mask now. Ciao all!
The actual prevalence will appall you. Because everything you posted there is what we would logically expect.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532266/
Overall estimated rate of deficiency is around 42%. "Deficiency" being drawn at 20 ng/ml. 40 would be a normal level for (historical/ aboriginal)humans. So the sub par levels exist in yet another fraction of the population. Rates go up in winter. Because vitamin synthesis is slower as we age, it's also worse with age over 65.
This is why it pays to actually measure stuff that we figure is probably ok. Rates in the modern world are pretty bad. If you live in a wintery country, you can check your level with a low cost blood test. Or, just go ahead and supplement. Vitamin D is fairly safe, just don't guzzle the whole bottle in one go, and it will be fine.
Yes, saw that. Bad situation.
Reports say the couple were "Personal Injury Lawyers", not exactly the typical self defense demographic. But nobody got hurt, so that's good.
Vitamin D deficiency in Germany :
Getting a VitD overdose is almost impossible ( not at all as "common" as with for instance BeatCarotene/VitA ), adverse effects are very rarely observed . Combining it with K/K2 seems to be a goo Idea . I use the Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University as my standard resource for micronutrition Info :
It is pretty interesting to look at how nutrition deficiencies contribue to/cause health problems, symptoms and diseases, and how common those are in so called "developed" countries .
Getting a VitD overdose is almost impossible ( not at all as "common" as with for instance BeatCarotene/VitA ), adverse effects are very rarely observed . Combining it with K/K2 seems to be a goo Idea . I use the Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University as my standard resource for micronutrition Info :
It is pretty interesting to look at how nutrition deficiencies contribue to/cause health problems, symptoms and diseases, and how common those are in so called "developed" countries .
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I take vitamins as well. It's humbling to have to take the "senior" ones...
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