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Press release from the lab interviewed, for those who have already clicked too many links in this thread and have run into Washington Post's paywall:
Johns Hopkins APL Biologists Sequencing Genome of the Virus Causing COVID-19
Inside the molecular diagnostics laboratory at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, while health care workers and hospital staff work tirelessly to process patient tests to detect the virus causing the COVID-19 pandemic, two biologists from the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory are...www.jhuapl.edu
Incognito mode.
But thanks all the same, good link!
That's my point.
The most optimistic scenarios have this being deliberately dragged out to, specifically to flatten that curve, kill as few people as possible, while softening the overarching disruption caused. The odds of a miracle cure that's going to be discovered, tested, and widely distributed in the next several weeks is not good, so the only 'realistic' way to end this now involves abandoning most mitigations and allowing it to spread unconstrained, which will surely overwhelm health care systems, and kill a lot more people (which, contrary to some beliefs, would also be highly disruptive to the economy).
Ha, that works. Most of these paywalls are at the ip level now, kinda surprised this one isn't.
I just watched the White House press briefing. It seemed to me that rational, logical decisions are being made regarding the virus and its intersect with the economy. The passage of a staggering 2 trillion dollar stimulus package (with 4 more trillion on standby) with bi-partisan support in just a matter of days is absolutely unprecedented. Looks like the leadership is razor sharp to me. That package is really going to help a lot of people and businesses.
Reading between the lines I wouldn't be surprised if what we see are modified quarantine/lockdowns, but it's unlikely to see a rock hard national level "everybody stay in their house" that gets crammed down on the population. I approve this message.
Reading between the lines I wouldn't be surprised if what we see are modified quarantine/lockdowns, but it's unlikely to see a rock hard national level "everybody stay in their house" that gets crammed down on the population. I approve this message.
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I've got more important things to think about...
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNf7u2fUwoY
Going to make a prediction. Could be wrong. Don't forget to quote it and laugh.
DOW 21200.
If anybody STILL has holdings in the US markets, now would be a good time to exit after the dead cat bounce.
(Wednesday, 25th March 2020.)
DOW 21200.
If anybody STILL has holdings in the US markets, now would be a good time to exit after the dead cat bounce.
(Wednesday, 25th March 2020.)
Nah, people don't learn. We will react while the outrage is fresh then we'll be back to blissful ignorance. Here we are barely at the edge of living memory of WW2 and the anti-semites and neo-facists are crawling outta the woodwork.
Supposedly, I am not working, right? Sure not getting paid.
Got called out at near midnight to do an emergency operation. Child with a wound. Seriously, nurse on the phone says I'm rostered. W T F ?
That means, no other doctor, that is what that means. Public system is probably jammed with feverish people all sure they have coronavirus.
Because today our first case died. So ■□●□ just got real for the public.
Centre had just ONE surgical mask left. No sterile tools because they are out of autoclave packet material. No Hibitane to clean the wound or scrub.
Made up some old fashioned packs with surgical towels and masking tape to sterilize tomorrow. Made a cleaning solution out of detergent, sterile saline and iodine drops.
Knocked him out with a sublingual sedative.
Fixed the wound with just one needle and cut the lines with the flat edge of another. I really thought this stuff was going to be in my past when I joined a private centre in an upscale area. New Times for sure...
Tomorrow, I am going to try to build a reusable personal respirator device. We are going to need it.
Got called out at near midnight to do an emergency operation. Child with a wound. Seriously, nurse on the phone says I'm rostered. W T F ?
That means, no other doctor, that is what that means. Public system is probably jammed with feverish people all sure they have coronavirus.
Because today our first case died. So ■□●□ just got real for the public.
Centre had just ONE surgical mask left. No sterile tools because they are out of autoclave packet material. No Hibitane to clean the wound or scrub.
Made up some old fashioned packs with surgical towels and masking tape to sterilize tomorrow. Made a cleaning solution out of detergent, sterile saline and iodine drops.
Knocked him out with a sublingual sedative.
Fixed the wound with just one needle and cut the lines with the flat edge of another. I really thought this stuff was going to be in my past when I joined a private centre in an upscale area. New Times for sure...
Tomorrow, I am going to try to build a reusable personal respirator device. We are going to need it.
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The exact same thing took place with our Carnival, IMHO. But our official pattern is shaped by the cruise ship 68 twits that ignored the obvious threat and got infected back in early March.
Lousiana has the fastest rate of infection in the world according to reports, but the most lethal cluster is still the one in Washington. So New Orleans is the place to send the next batch of ventillators, if the story is correct. Bad news for here, same Carnival story.
Guys, if you would, stick your flag up in your posts to help us identify local info?
It's a nice little way to show solidarity too.
You are old school, adapt and overcome, don’t know your area however if you got some vets nearby maybe they got some usable equipment you can use?
I like free choices, but I ain’t welcoming no one until I’m sure this is over.
If not we will need to check people arriving for symptoms.
or get a hazmat suit
Rural America watches pandemic erupt in cities as fear grows
DUFUR, Ore. (AP) — The social distancing rules repeated like a mantra in America's urban centers, where the coronavirus is spreading exponentially, might seem silly in wide-open places where neighbors live miles apart and “working from home” means another day spent branding calves or driving a tract
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Darn (<- tone self moderated) straight.
Nobody in.
Nobody out.
Stay safe and do NOT get this thing. When it goes bad it is sudden, and if you can't get on the machines It. Is. Game. Over.
Its not about open borders, its about people who are resident legally who work for the NHS already and keep it going. The UK always had the power to police borders, just decided not to use it 'for reasons'- I wonder what they'd be?
True, but from WW2 the UK decided to build the NHS, and hopefully people now see its value and will want it protected.
It's not so much the 'disposing bodies' as much as 'removing from normal life' that is the issue. For example:
Chinese Tycoon Who Criticized Xi’s Response to Coronavirus Has Vanished (Published 2020)
Ren Zhiqiang appears to be the latest government critic silenced by the Communist Party as it cracks down on dissent over the epidemic.www.nytimes.com
Now, we only hear about this individual because he is pretty influential so news worthy. But people notice when a friend disappears, and will spread the news. If 21 million (?) people disappear this news spreads like wildfire.
Something to consider: if you think 'communist ' China has the same level social security net as we have in Western Europe, think again. I am pretty sure Chinese-style lockdowns financially ruined endless numbers of Chinese citizens, and CCP is not the kind of government that cares much about such 'details' when it acts.
I anticipate a fair number will be kicked of their subscriptions in the US in total as well, three months from now. My estimate is half the effect (0.5*1.3%=+-2 million accounts) due to US relative wealth compared with China.
FWIW from Wikipedia
In pre-1980s reform China, the socialist state fulfilled the needs of society from cradle to grave. Child care, education, job placement, housing, subsistence, health care, and elder care were largely the responsibility of the work unit as administered through state-owned enterprises and agricultural communes and collectives. As those systems disappeared or were reformed, the "iron rice bowl" approach to welfare changed. Article 14 of the constitution stipulates that the state "builds and improves a welfare system that corresponds with the level of economic development.
In 2004 China experienced the greatest decrease in its poorest population since 1999. People with a per capita income of less than 668 renminbi (RMB; US$80.71) decreased 2.9 million or 10 percent; those with a per capita income of no more than 924 RMB (US$111.64) decreased by 6.4 million or 11.4 percent, according to statistics from the State Council’s Poverty Reduction Office.
Welfare reforms since the late 1990s have included unemployment insurance, medical insurance, workers’ compensation insurance, maternity benefits, communal pension funds, individual pension accounts, universal health care,[3] and a carbon tax.[4]
A law approved February 2013 will mandate a nationwide minimum wage at 40% average urban salaries to be phased in fully by 2015.[5]
China introduced the one-child policy decades ago, and this has helped reduce the strain on the government resources and economy. At present, the rules are modified and people can have more than one child, provided they pay a fee[citation needed]. This fee goes into funding necessary infrastructure or anything else the government deems fit.
We’re not in panic-mode however I’ve seen how fast this thing can develop, remember I was in India only a few weeks back, 2 cases now they are in panicmode.
we know none of us here got it, so it can only come from the outside, we don’t need food, water or anything for that matter, so we can sit and wait for a long time, I placed a cheap hand radio at the gate with a big sign, don’t enter unless approved, use the radio
well call me crazy but I don’t want my family to get sick.I am not denying they have a social net, and their inclusion of full medical insurance cover for the unemployed is great, but it is still not on par with true first world countries. For example, unemployment benefits in Beijing are slightly under $200. Not enough for 'luxuries' like cellphone plans.
With all due respect for this gentleman, I cannot avoid thinking that if he does not survive with the Covid19, it would be doubly cruel for a man who waiting for many years to ascend the royal Throne.
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