At Sothis now...not seeing as many high value smuggling missions as I have been. I believe it's been nerfed. I'm an Elite trade rank and so was seeing missions for 10m. Now I've only managed to find a 6m and 7m but that is after 30 minutes of hunting. Definitely a difference from the last several days.
The Smuggling discussion thread
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I must have imagined the millions I've made from smuggling outside of missions.
Good job you're here to put me right.
and far away from boring if you ask me , esp in open and aligned to some PP dude or dudin<----- prolly not the right word lol
There are a number of factors with getting the big buck missions such as your Elite trading rank and your rep with the factions offering the missions. I claim no inside knowledge but it appears to me that these new long-range missions have a scaling factor as to how far the originating station is from the bubble. Sophis happens to be either the farthest out or very close to it.
By comparison, I've been doing long-range smuggling missions much closer to the center of the bubble. With Elite rank and allied rep, the best missions have been around 1 to 1.5 million with the average more like half of that. Still very good pay imo. For me it's more for the fun then the credits anyway.
I think everything is fine with 2-5millions missions with a few tons cargo to deliver/smuggle. It was fun and I could earn some real money. If we need to nerf... sg I would suggest the time. I mean how long these missions are available, maybe 2-3days top and after that The mission payouts are lovered, and you can search a good place again, where u can make millions again. I dont want to farm credit till I get completly boored, I want to earn them fast while I enjoy the game. That's why I hate the current trading system, It would be much more fun If it were player driven, I hope in 2.5 with crafting and looting system, we get that too
The datacourier missions that I see are doing this kind of thing afaict; they all seem to be in the less than half-hour timespans. Makes sense for data; it's like city office-district bike couriers.
Don't double the cargo or shrink the time across the board for smuggling though. All that a cargo doubling does is edge out smaller-capacity ships, which are the ones that are supposed to be better at smuggling. The missions just need more logic in what's going where how soon and for what price, and then the variability of the mission toughness will evolve from its components instead of a top-down modifier.
You've done a brilliant job of explaining this, and I feel this isn't a derail of the conversation at all! This is a fundamental part of why this discussion started, and it can't spontaneously initiate in another thread.
I definitely see your point that without "genuine" ownership, it is less likely to devolve into a competitive style of gameplay, however, I do fear that group-centric activities, if not tempered, make the environment the equivalent of when a tour bus or school group arrives at a museum: the entire attitude changes, and suddenly what was a place of collective, profound appreciation becomes a fight to endure the boorish hoards that use 'organization' to run roughshod over the environment.
I understand that, with or without in-game curation groups still exist, and succeed through coordination, but I also feel like there are theoretical tools in place to identify a player's factions, just no good way of collaborating beyond a small wing of 4.
It's a very, very big galaxy. With about 20-30,000 players online at any one time, spread across many tens of thousands of stations spending only a few minutes in each one, the ability to even FIND another individual is very difficult, let alone finding someone with which one can "identify".
I would like to know the people that call my little slice of the galaxy home. Maybe someone else uses my little Anarchy as a home base, but unless I sit and watch for hours on end, I may never know. I may never find someone that could actually become a wingman or even a friend, because the "social mechanics" don't support it. I'm not really upset by that, to be honest, as I fully understand my loneliness is only a function of my own motivation.
Thank you so much for your meaningful and delightful discussion. I wish I could discuss it with you at length in a back-and-forth manner, but I realize this bulletin board doesn't really make that easy to do...somewhat appropriately.
My best regards to you, and I can't give you any more Reputation because I have apparently given you enough right now...
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Still no Internet here lol
Please tell me the high risk long distance courier and smuggling missions still exist?
Please tell me the high risk long distance courier and smuggling missions still exist?
Whats the deal with Solthis? Why people so enamored with it? I'm getting smuggling missions 1-2.2 million for 100ish LY away and im wayyyy away from you guys over in Solthis. So whats the deal over there? Free cheese fries?
The new smuggling missions are here for a reason.
It has come to everyone's attention that the new smuggling missions are making people a lot of money and allowing for a full conda fit in just a few days. I am not here to say that it is good or bad but what I would like to point out is that this is 100% normal behavior from a game dev right before an expansion.
When a game has an expansion right around the corner they implement a "catch up" mechanic so all the players can experience everything the vanilla game has to offer. I would put money on Elite Dangerous: Horizons having ships that will cost a few billion credits to purchase not to mention A class fittings. So if you already an elite billionaire Congrats on getting to that before now, it took real commitment and dedication to this awesome game. If you are just now getting credits to buy your python or conda, enjoy the biggest ships the game has to offer before the expansion. And everyone should fly safe and have awesome adventures.
It has come to everyone's attention that the new smuggling missions are making people a lot of money and allowing for a full conda fit in just a few days. I am not here to say that it is good or bad but what I would like to point out is that this is 100% normal behavior from a game dev right before an expansion.
When a game has an expansion right around the corner they implement a "catch up" mechanic so all the players can experience everything the vanilla game has to offer. I would put money on Elite Dangerous: Horizons having ships that will cost a few billion credits to purchase not to mention A class fittings. So if you already an elite billionaire Congrats on getting to that before now, it took real commitment and dedication to this awesome game. If you are just now getting credits to buy your python or conda, enjoy the biggest ships the game has to offer before the expansion. And everyone should fly safe and have awesome adventures.
Small combat ships are the best, flying a bus or dump truck full of turrets is not much of a combat vessel. Funny after spending giga bucks every combat conda runs away if losing.
Small combat ships are the best, flying a bus or dump truck full of turrets is not much of a combat vessel. Funny after spending giga bucks every combat conda runs away if losing.
Wouldn't hurt to have proper firing control on turret based weapon systems either
Small combat ships are the best, flying a bus or dump truck full of turrets is not much of a combat vessel. Funny after spending giga bucks every combat conda runs away if losing.
Ha! Yeah, I've never wanted an Anaconda. My "end game" was always planned to be the Clipper.
Maybe I'll save up enough to get a Cutter though...just to have one.
Small combat ships are the best, flying a bus or dump truck full of turrets is not much of a combat vessel. Funny after spending giga bucks every combat conda runs away if losing.
cause no one wants to loose 20-40 million credits on an insurance re-buy! 3-5 million for a Vulture or FDL loss is not really a big deal, but 5-6 times that and it becomes a big deal! especially when a wing of competent eagles can easily take out an anaconda if they know what they are doing
Hey Op. I've thought about this one also.
Something like.. Maybe we will be forced to buy a completely new load out for our ships to be on those moons and it would cost lots of money???
Maybe not specifically forced, but if you dont have it then you will be having a trouble finding/exploring etc on those moons....
Something like.. Maybe we will be forced to buy a completely new load out for our ships to be on those moons and it would cost lots of money???
Maybe not specifically forced, but if you dont have it then you will be having a trouble finding/exploring etc on those moons....
Yeah i think people are just making a fuss about nothing really. I don't think it will actually be that much come Horizons.
