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Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].
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I don't think I'm hiding from Open, just choosing more selectively who goes on my matchmaking list. I've found that I enjoy playing with likeminded people, and generally go Solo if the network stutter starts bugging me too much.
What about people who are by nature solitary and introverted? What about the people who want to play Elite but don't want their gaming enjoyment to be somewhat dependent on some random strangers on the internet?
I think this was already answered for you. Be a part of the universe, but just a nice unpopulated part. Stake a claim somewhere, but be a part of the whole.
It would make *me* happy just knowing you're out there, even if our paths never crossed. And hey, if they *did* we may even have a half-nice chat whilst moving on through a system somewhere...
Don't lock yourselves in a dark cupboard somewhere people, please...
There is so much information here to sift through.. some good points on either side, mostly garbage though to make one side "more fair" or whatever. I've not seen this idea, so I'm gonna drop it here and would love some feedback...
Make the game 100% open (before you scream, read on). I do play on open and I miss all the interaction of a MMO game. I have yet to see 1 single person in open mode.. Not a single one! here is my suggestion: Like many MMO's before this (and yes it IS a Massively MULTIPLAYER) one, there should be 'safe' zones and free zones. Where if you venture in the designated areas you are free from PvP. When you are comfortable and want to take more risk or go do some pvp, venture out into the OPEN zone.
Now maybe this open zone is all the unexplored places? maybe its a designated portion of all 3 alliances systems? there has to be an equal and balanced result to this. I am not for OPEN so I can go pirate anyone as I'm a trader and explorer by nature. I would like it to be OPEN so that I can see and talk and interact with people! Space is a HUGE vastness that is cold and boring sometimes. It would be nice to see and talk to other people. It would be nice to "hire" another person to guard my trade ships in the wing...
So lets please stop the bickering about making solo harder or open more rewarding. lets come to an agreement to get everyone together so that we can PLAY together! Isn't that the main point of a GAME? lets build a community in game. Not just on these boards.
I was excited when I went to the Empire home world and saw over 600 ships pass through there. I hung out for a good hour hoping to see ANYONE, yet not a soul. Its depressing that I can not even talk to anyone and am forced to play this MMO alone.
TLR I want everyone to play open so we can have fun together. play together. Thank you.
No............
Robert Maynard
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.... or, rather than having to move out to the boonies, stay in the more interesting areas and "play the way you want to". There is no requirement for any player to be content for another - while Frontier probably hope that the majority of the player population chooses to play in Open (and they have the statistics, so they know for sure who plays where), they are not forcing anyone to play in a particular way. Personally, I *choose* to play predominantly in Open but find it odd that other players seek to reduce the choices available to other players to suit their particular play-styles.
Solo / Private Groups are not dark cupboards - they are simply different facets of the matchmaking system that facilitates the three game modes.
So, if we don't want to interact with other humans while we are playing this game we have to go far away and hide from you?
It's nothing personal, but I'm not playing this game to make you happy.
For crying out loud! It "IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN". The game was designed with (3) modes, Built with (3) modes, advertized and sold with (3) modes. I can see about 30K people requesting refunds here if they changed this feature. Do you actually think FD would be dumb enough to do something like that? I personally think they would p--s off the largest part of there player base. There is absolutely no way.
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I'm sure it's not meant to be but that comes over as very patronising. Basically you are telling us that we should restrict ourselves to some unvisited backwater of the galaxy just so that you can feel better about our choices (because you don't understand our choices). We aren't locking ourselves away we are playing the same game as you in Solo mode. The mode designed to be in the game from the very beginning. If you want to use those terms then don't think of us as locking ourselves in a cupboard, think of us as locking you out of our galaxy. You are reduced to mere background NPCs that affect the galaxy but we never actually see and you never get in the way of our fun. Like the farmers on the planets or the landing pad maintenance crew.
However, restricting ourselves to some unvisited systems would be like locking ourselves in a dark cupboard somewhere.
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I'm just trying to dispel the unfounded rumours that it's hell out in open play, that's all. I do repsect some of your reasoning, but i'm just championing what i feel are valid points for playing open and interacting with others. You do this in Mobius already, so it's not a case of not wanting to interact with others anyway.
There has been far too much scaremongering going on. It has to stop.
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Players' opinions of Open are many and varied - and personal - and subjective. How a player feels about an encounter with another ship varies as well - some cannot seem to get enough of it, some would rather just not bother.
Players will always express their opinions - that's certainly not going to stop.
Ok, well my choice of words failed me this time around. But you understand what i'm saying.
Also, i'm a little saddened that you want to lock me out of your galaxy, when the simple fact is you don't know me. In fact, i'm guessing you think all open play is about being interdicted and shot down in flames, and i'm afraid you are completely wrong. The community is starting to thrive, with interesting facets forming here there and everywhere. It would only be a richer place if Mobius were a part of that.
I'm not arguing by the way, just merely trying to point out the positives.
Ya know I kinda see his points, but in all fairness "Dist", yer not the only one doing this here. Yea you like to write it out as though your a, "Dr. Ruth Weisehimmer of gaming theory", but the message is pretty much the same. You just have to make yout play mode better! Well ya know my position on it.
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It isn't personal and it isn't because of what Open play is, isn't or could be imagined to be. I spend most of my free time away from friends and family as well. People I like and care about. It isn't about them either, it's about me. Nor I am shy or socially awkward. I'm not afraid of Open play or PvP. I'm an Introvert.
Start with this, it's quite fun. http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/11420132250159.jpg
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But you did buy a game with (3) advertized modes of play didn't you?
Well I'm glad you asked. Star Citizen will have fully moddable, fully private servers, and server software for those choosing to avoid the gank fest. It has a much more comprehensive set of hooks, and handles to allow the host to turn off something like friendly fire. This way I can quite literally be the ultimate boss of my server, and completely ignore people that want the game balance tilted to there specific designs.
Oh, I forgot, it also isn't limited in allowed members. So as I see it, this play the way we want stuff is just gonna get deeper.
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Yeah, so basically other players would dictate where you can go. And if you find a quiet place you like, you would be helpless if a group like Code decides to make it their area of operation.
Having Fun.
Pretty much all Games I play are singleplayer, sure lot of it has tagged on MP these days, but I don't play that (with a few expections, very vew). I just don't care about MP, I don't need MP to have fun, Games are fun enough by themself (at least the ones I buy).
And that really has nothing to do with how social someone is, that you play SP Games does not equal having no friends. But I do want some Time for myself, its quite important to have some time alone at least for me, and I like to spend that Time playing Games.
I don't get why it is so hard to understand that Games can be just fun even when played alone and even can be more fun when played alone for some. I do understand why Games are fun for others in MP, its really not hard to understand the other side even when you don't agree. Its no rocket sicience.
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