Not much. It would be mostly the same game, except for the matchmaking after all.
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Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].
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Not much. It would be mostly the same game, except for the matchmaking after all.
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You know your right, it is hilarious. lol
But let me tell ya this. If you compare the, "we got to change the game bunch", with the, "I could care less bunch", I think you would be massively outnumbered, (even with the Reddit bunch, I actually think Mobius alone outnumbers them). Nothing I can base this on, but lets just wait and see what happens. I fall into the "I could care less bunch". I actually love the game so far, and got no serious issues as is. I'd love to see landing on planets though.
You are saying Mobius probably has higher numbers than 42,504 subscribers in reddit? Idiot...
This could very well be. I don't know. I am just voicing my opinion.
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Frankly I don't care if your insulted, I'm wondering now if maybe there is a comprehension issue then? Cause you just tried to say that everyone on the X-box Open will side with you and want fully separate server. . Heck most of the players on this "Open" don't side with you.
The people posting on "Reddit" about ED. Maybe not, I honestly could care less, "Remember".
Listen this forum is here for you to make your position known, I would like to encourage you to do exactly that to your hearts content.
I'm gonna go to the movies in my "ultimate solo mode" ahem, my wife is going with me, so group I think, ultimate group mode. You have a wonderful night mate.
@Beetlebum, go for it mate. Same as above.
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I like how you edited out everything else except "A "subscription charge" will not cover this.. it is a WHOLE new Kickstarter." trying to make me say something I didn't say?
Actually, I quoted everything you said in that post.
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Oh you did? that's funny because you left out "do you have an inkling how much manpower, programming changes, equipment, new expenses, and all that FD will have to organize to make this "seperate Mod" just for you and some other PVPers that don't feel like they can PVP or play with everyone else because it isn't "hardcore" enough?"
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The people posting on "Reddit" about ED. Maybe not, I honestly could care less, "Remember".
Listen this forum is here for you to make your position known, I would like to encourage you to do exactly that to your hearts content.
I'm gonna go to the movies in my "ultimate solo mode" ahem, my wife is going with me, so group I think, ultimate group mode. You have a wonderful night mate.
@Beetlebum, go for it mate. Same as above.
He things 42,000 people on reddit are all on his side and all play ED? And he calls you and idiot...
No, I didn't. U drunk or something?
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A "subscription charge" will not cover this.. it is a WHOLE new Kickstarter.
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I like how you edited out everything else except "A "subscription charge" will not cover this.. it is a WHOLE new Kickstarter." trying to make me say something I didn't say?
Actually, I quoted everything you said in that post.Oh you did? that's funny because you left out "do you have an inkling how much manpower, programming changes, equipment, new expenses, and all that FD will have to organize to make this "seperate Mod" just for you and some other PVPers that don't feel like they can PVP or play with everyone else because it isn't "hardcore" enough?"
No, I didn't. U drunk or something?
Hmm
what was that about drinking?
Powerplay in Open and Solo
I am frustrated that I couldn't defend my power's territory from Undermining because many player do it in Solo. I can't prevent them from preparing because they also do it in Solo. People want to engage in Powerplay but they play safe in Solo. I sit in an empty system while undermining percentage keep rising. I want to prevent them from Fortify but i see only NPC. I am sad.
I want to suggest 2 ideas that will force players into Open Play:
- If they are WANTED or become HOSTILE, they will automatically send into OPEN.
or
- If players choose to pledge allegiance to one of several galactic Powers, they are not allowed to enter SOLO.
I am frustrated that I couldn't defend my power's territory from Undermining because many player do it in Solo. I can't prevent them from preparing because they also do it in Solo. People want to engage in Powerplay but they play safe in Solo. I sit in an empty system while undermining percentage keep rising. I want to prevent them from Fortify but i see only NPC. I am sad.
I want to suggest 2 ideas that will force players into Open Play:
- If they are WANTED or become HOSTILE, they will automatically send into OPEN.
or
- If players choose to pledge allegiance to one of several galactic Powers, they are not allowed to enter SOLO.
As is the notion that they might do a blunder of NGE proportions by alienating the part of the player base that is happy with the game to cater to a play style that didn't seem to even be a part of the plans up to now. I mean, Frontier and DB specifically chose the current network model, including the solo mode, to make it a great single-player experience; keeping solo players happy was part of the plan all along. Meanwhile, the game was never meant to be something where players engage in PvP constantly.
And there are other interesting quotes from back there, such as this one: "I don't see this as an MMO in the traditional sense, unless you think of Call of Duty as an MMO. In E
you will have the concept of saving and reloading, and choosing a limited group of real people that can appear in your game (which could be just you alone), including allowing strangers to appear." Or this one: "You will be able to play with vast numbers of real players (assuming vast numbers get the game!), but it will be your choice to do so. I imagine it will be the default choice, but the point is there will be a choice."(@Jockey79: feel free to copy those links if you think they could improve your wall.)
Already did that with the whole offline mode thing, for me and a fair number of other backers at least; I've even redirected the Kickstarter emails to my spam folder. Frontier also lost a RollerCoaster Tycoon fan with that, I doubt I will purchase any game from them in the next decade (which is how long I tend to take to forgive this kind of broken promise).
PvP is mentioned exactly once in the Kickstart page, in the FAQ about what will be done to prevent PvP griefing. And I've been combing the old comments for a different purpose, but I don't remember seeing anything by a dev that even hinted at it being a PvP sandbox; in fact, it was explicitly stated, multiple times, that whoever wanted to play it as a single player game would be able to do so without any penalty.
So, well, I really can't see how anyone during Kickstart could think this game would be a PvP sandpark, an EVE with joysticks. Allowing players to choose who they can meet was at the core of the proposed game from the start, and this alone blows an Anaconda-sized hole on any plans for territorial control.
Yep. An activity meant to be leisurely, enjoyable. Also one that neither gives nor takes anything useful in the real world, apart from whichever feelings the player experiments while playing. As such, it's an activity that makes no sense, at all, if the player is not enjoying it.
Hence, all the talk about cowardice has no place here, no place at all. First because there is no danger from the start; it's just a simulation, it doesn't affect the real world in any way, so anything you could say about "avoiding danger" simply doesn't apply. And second because doing unpleasant things is anathema to the very definition of a leisure activity.
You might also want to take a look at the difference between bravery and foolishness. Bringing into a PvP situation anything you don't want to lose is, in about every game where such loss can happen, considered the later.
Oh, also: I don't care how you think the game should be played. I will play in the way that maximizes my enjoyment, thank you. I have no obligation, at all, to help you realize your vision of the game, or to become content for you. Frontier explicitly promised that I would be able to simply ignore players like you, and I will make full use of such capabilities, or demand a full refund if those capabilities are ever compromised.
Actually, yes, it helps loads. The best way to deal with unpleasant elements, in games and forums at least, is to ignore them, which is why "don't feed the troll" is one of the most important pieces of Internet wisdom.
And Frontier explicitly promised us that we would be able to move freely, seamlessly, between all modes. Multiple times, in multiple venues, never contradicted that or said that they might change it.
People that purchased a game that explicitly says it allows players to choose who they play with, that is even sold as a single-player and co-op game on steam, and then come complain in the forums that other players are able to treat the game as a single-player or co-op game...
It's kinda like purchasing a copy of GW2 and then complaining that you can't loot other players when you kill them.
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Right, so someone like me who always plays in Open if they can, can't play in Open as I'm working away and the crap hotel wifi can't support the bandwidth needed Open, but it can support Solo? In your world that just a "ha ha you can't play at all!", right? Wrong. Your arrogance and presumption that you decide how other people play your game is staggering.
I understand and I'm one of those guys who would rather have just one mode (open), but I think a healthier compromise would be to reduce or remove the actual value of player contributions in anything but open.
That way, they can still do the missions and get the merits, but the scores don't increase from their contributions as much as someone in open.
That way, they can still do the missions and get the merits, but the scores don't increase from their contributions as much as someone in open.
It's a tricky thing isn't it... At the moment I'd argue some of game balance is a bit off because people can flit around ONLINE and SOLO. It certainly makes a bit of a mockery of the new Powerplay in some areas...
I don't know what the answer is though because clearly some people want/need SOLO.
If they made that change tomorrow how would you tell? How would it change the game for you? I'd love to know.
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But your not getting one. The devs have no intention of adding a separate one for you. Give it up already.
There may be many Elite players that want it, but there are many many more that don't.
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