The clue is in the word Solo - solitude! Of course, you'll not understand that - shame, as you don't know what you're missing!
Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].
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We can opt out of PvP without also having to miss out on increasingly large parts of the universe.
We don't have to interact with people if we don't want to.
We can close the program instantly if we need to for some emergency without being accused of combat logging.
We can play even when we have a poor Internet connection.
Do you need any more?
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Now we go to the roots! Yes, Open is the MMO part of the game, not the 'galaxy simulation', the 'galaxy simulation' is not a player. I understand what you are saying, and the Open/MMO part is an area of concern for me, being my sole reason for purchase it is a comparatively poor MMO when compared to others at a similar price point. I do agree with Steve Law, it should not have been marketed, in its current form, as an MMO.
Oh we do, the price we pay is we have whiny little only Open advocates who think that any mode but one where they can shoot everyone is stressless. Got enough stress in open / Group thank you.
Bit of a contradiction there. While you are perfectly entitled to raise your voice and give your opinions, what you are proposing are only minor changes to you. They are pretty major fundamental changes to the game.
Again, this is from your perspective, which you must accept not everybody shares. You should stop assuming you know what's best for others.
Because a player wants to. Because a player doesn't want to spend their time interacting with you, or with me or with anyone else. It is their leisure time, they should be able to play it how they want.
It's also marketed as Single Player incidentally.
Because that's the way that person wishes to play the game that they bought with their money. The simple fact that you don't understand that does not automatically invalidate it.
Sorry mate, if I accept this as an MMO then its my fault when the rest of the industry puts out substandard multiplayer experiences. Destiny is already a half- model for a game that could also be stretched (and you are stretching) to fit the definition. The buck has to stop somewhere.
EDIT: im just saying the multiplayer needs some love still, not hating on the game.
EDIT: Solo probably does too. Though I did like the mission improvements and the AI changes.
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Because I was told I can by the people who sold me the game.
Because I don't like playing along side children who want to pew pew all day.
Because I have enough real life friends not to need to force myself on others in a game or have it done back to me.
Because I play to relax myself not for your enjoyment.
Because I decide who I spend my spare time with, not you.
There is 5.
Need some more?
You said yourself that Open is MMO. Who said the whole game has to be? It's also marketed as Single Player, Solo covers that, although again, not quite. Many of us look past marketing and do deeper research. Buyer Beware.
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No. I'm not the one wishing to change something to the detriment of others.
damn, ninja'd.
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*Cough* Mobius. We have lots of interaction between players, some group up some don't and talking with friends and such.. no shooting each other. Give it a try. Open is not required for interaction. And some people do not even want that. They want to just come home and play and not have to worry about others.
ED is Deep and varied gameplay
I would just like to point out that playing in solo or open has nothing to do with socializing as when you want to do that the best method is to turn off the PC and go outside or spend time with your family etc etc......
Just because you received the privilege by Fdev to be able to take the same influence on the galaxy doesn't imply that this is reasonable. The only reason why you received it is to please you, to give you a reason to play. But on the other hand it Open players receive a loss. A loss of interaction with others and the short dated consequences made by them. A real consequence for me would be to die in the attempt to expand in to another system or while i am defending another. I'll take the loss of credits, having to work them back in maybe having a hard time because my next source of income is crowded with hostiles. But this is the true nature of Elite and this is the only version that should have the privilege to call itself Dangerous.
Your whole point is you want to shoot someone that is fully what it boils down to. You talk about "interaction" yet looking at your posts the interaction you want is to stop each and every attempt against a power that you support. That is the basis of your entire argument. But of course you utterly ignore the game mechanics, P2P, networks, and all other factors that means that even if everyone was forced into your play style and Open only YOU would see VERY LITTLE OF THEM to quote Star Wars, "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip between them."
You advocate forced PVP
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You have the same effect everyone else has and that is what gets your goat doesn't it? That you are not special.. your open, your tough, other modes are wussies, why can they effect things like you can? You a special snowflake who believes the way You play should mean more than the way others play.
Yet you think this is Elite: Grocery Store?
Well, FD seem to think it's reasonable. (For clarity, I don't do PP, cannot imagine anything more boring than make believe politics... Except maybe non make believe politics.)
Yep. I guess FD want as many players as they can get.
No, you should still have interaction with others who want to have in game interaction. If there's not many people there to interact with, that is saying something else. And you can do all those things like die defending or attacking a system. Plenty of ways to die in Elite, in any of the modes.
Seriously?
Yes, I said that, its the MMO *part* and if you read the feedback on ED's Open multiplayer what do you find out?
I bought in Beta, there was not much info, 'a massively multiplayer online space spectacular' or something like that. I think we both agree this was wrong of FD to do. Going forward I am hopeful we will see some multiplayer connection fixes and some more immersive content for you solo player types. Since it was sold as an MMO it should not only 'fit the bill' but I would like to see it lead by example. Is this ok?
And just to give you another argument for my point of view.
Solo mode takes away a gameplay experience that would have been created without it. Without Solo, situations would emerge that are hard or even impossible to conquer. Without Solo i would have to face true danger out in space while i am doing actions that are hostile to someone else. Without Solo i'd have to think about my next move because it might be my last. Without Solo i'd have to support others because they would suffer. Without Solo i'd have a more dynamic and living galaxy.
Should i continue?
And now tell me that i am still able to enjoy the game as i want.
Solo mode takes away a gameplay experience that would have been created without it. Without Solo, situations would emerge that are hard or even impossible to conquer. Without Solo i would have to face true danger out in space while i am doing actions that are hostile to someone else. Without Solo i'd have to think about my next move because it might be my last. Without Solo i'd have to support others because they would suffer. Without Solo i'd have a more dynamic and living galaxy.
Should i continue?
And now tell me that i am still able to enjoy the game as i want.
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