Fair play. I'm not too bothered about the modes except when it comes to community goals which is why I see this thread becoming a lot bigger when powerplay arrives.
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Fair play. I'm not too bothered about the modes except when it comes to community goals which is why I see this thread becoming a lot bigger when powerplay arrives.
Its that sort of problem as Distance has stated which has caused the whole thing to become unbalanced, as he rightly stated Solo players can change the galaxy and Open players cannot do anything at all about it. How is that balanced with people posting trade routes all it takes is Solo players to buy up goods and sell them at the destination to bring down the trade routes and nobody is none the wiser who done it. At least in open play there would be a chance of stopping them.
By leaving it as it is all your doing is driving everyone who just wants to wrack up a huge paycheck to play in solo play, do they cause problems in open yes can we actually stop them from open play NO as we cant see them.
As I stated its about time FD chose which mode or made them ALL separate as neither of the modes should influence the other.
That's totally incorrect. Open players have just as much effect on Solo players as Solo players can have on Open. More so in fact because they tend to be more focused and organised. We have one against many and the many are afraid of the one?
People in Open can change the Galaxy in the same way and Solo players can't do anything about it.
People always forgett that it works the other way around too. No matter what mode you play, you can influence the Galaxy and People in other modes can't shoot you. People in the same mode can, if they happen to be in the same Instance, but if you wanna play in such a mode is something everybody has to decide for themselfs.
People always forgett that it works the other way around too. No matter what mode you play, you can influence the Galaxy and People in other modes can't shoot you. People in the same mode can, if they happen to be in the same Instance, but if you wanna play in such a mode is something everybody has to decide for themselfs.
If players have to jump modes because they're "continuously interdicted" that is a game mechanics issue, not a mode issue.
Trade exploits, yes, I can see that being a problem as it affects the economy as a whole (and why mixing online/offline trade doesn't work well [trade for offline needs to be one way, as there's 1000001 exploits).
Other than that, the gripes are more about the grass appears greener on one side (the same o' same o' PvP vs PvE / Raider vs Dungeoneer / fighter vs trader elitist views).
I'm not fussed about solo mode. The crux of the issue is (referring to my previous example) the solo player can influence the actions of players in open but the open players have a harder time working against solo players.
In open and someone's trading on "my route" I can jump in a combat ship and scare off the competition. If the guy in the T9 ruining my profits is in solo there's nothing I can do.
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Pick any random group of 30 pages - this was covered - repeatedly.
As has been stated T9s in solo can bring down trade routes and players in open cant shoot them at all this is why I think a save per mode would be better this would allow for players to actually get balance. The question is does solo players attacking a NPC be seen in open? or is it just players who cant see them?
And wings of T9s in Open can bring down trades even faster and Solo players can't do anything about it.
However you are seeing it as a conflict and we don't. The great majority of Solo players don't bring down trade routes to deliberately affect Open players. Think of us as one of the dozens of NPC traders that are part of the background simulation.
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And wings of T9's are incredibly susceptible to wings of player pirates
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Well I posted it in the AMA thread and hopefully we can get an answer :
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=139684&p=2138013&viewfull=1#post2138013
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Robert Maynard
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The fact that the debate over the game modes and mode switching has gone on for well over two years and that the game has been released with these core features intact would tend to suggest that Frontier have stuck to the decision that they made at the outset. While some players would like FD to change the game to suit their personal preferences, others, no doubt, do not share that desire.
I'm not fussed about solo mode. The crux of the issue is (referring to my previous example) the solo player can influence the actions of players in open but the open players have a harder time working against solo players.
In open and someone's trading on "my route" I can jump in a combat ship and scare off the competition. If the guy in the T9 ruining my profits is in solo there's nothing I can do.
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But you can do something...organize.
This is like PvP. If you're getting ganked call in guildies or faction mates for help (which is what they always tell their "victims", right???).
One solo player surely can't disrupt ALL of the universe, compared to 5 buddies manipulating a trade route.
But that isn't the issue, right? It's just the grass is greener because it can't be totally controlled, huh?
ED isn't EvE (thank God!).
And wings of T9's are incredibly susceptible to wings of player pirates
And solo (and Solo) T9s are susceptible to wings of NPC pirates. Although we can't add a couple of combat ships to our wing.
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Multiple players in a private group can though
But that isn't what Private Groups are for! You are applying your competitive and combatative multiplayer logic to players who do not want to play multiplayer.
That's the other thing though. Most of the solo players don't want to play with other people directly but still want to influence the game for everyone else.
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Robert Maynard
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It was Frontier's decision to have all players affect the single galactic background simulation - it was pitched as a feature - an evolving galaxy....
Unfortunately its one of the things they are being used for look on the forum for cheaters, they are using groups to wrack up bounties and the fix was 'limit bounties to 1m per faction'. Its about time that something was sorted to make the modes more balanced. Yes its difficult but players who cannot be seen or harmed in a mode shouldnt influence that mode.
I disagree with your emphasis. They may well influence the game for everyone else but that's not why they are doing it.
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