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[FuzzySpider]

Well elite has what 1 million at max players ? Guess how many CSGO has, a game where if you dont have a mic you get kicked from a competitive game. Almost 9 million and rising ? LOL and DOTA are basically the same, but you talk with characters more than mic(DOTA has mic but people only use it for Cyka Blyot)

I have absolutely no idea what your point is, and I don't see from you even a token attempt to understand mine.

To expand a little on what I said, which may explain things a little better, Elite is not like DOTA or CoD or any of those games. Grinding trade runs, lonely deep space exploration, an array of ships with different set ups to work out and outfit, is not the kind of game that appeals to someone who wants something simple, easy, and quick to have a boomfest with other players. There is nothing wrong with those games (I have Mortal Kombat X and World of Tanks for that very thing), but Elite simply isn't it.

Elite is in fact the very sort of game that would appeal to the quiet, thoughtful, socially-awkward and shy gamers I spoke of in my previous post. I'm not saying that all or most Elite players are that way, but I can say with some degree of confidence that many are.

Forcing multiplayer would inevitably lose a lot of them

Forcing multiplayer would not draw any players from boomfest blastathons or instant battle-royale type games.

 

[nedeaalex]

Again with the pointless comparison.

CSGO doesn't attract people who want spaceships
Oh and ED does sell in game stuff - so it is closer to a normal F2P than any of your mindless pew pew shooters.

At this point, you're just trolling for the sake of trolling.

Saying CSGO is mindless pew pew shooter is just as much trolling. Ever watched a Major Championship for CSGO. The amount of tactics involved there would make this game look like a sidewinder vs Anaconda. And im not trolling anymore, i already said i give up and i will just go to StarCitizen anyway. Lets hope they make a proper mMO.

 

[SteveLaw]

I hate to reinforce a stereotype here but many (not all but many) gamers are the quiet, thoughtful, intelligent, and socially-awkward and shy type of person.

Not only that but many people, like myself, are Introverts. I'm not shy, and I'm perfectly capable of social interaction, and often choose it, but it drains my energy and I need to be alone to recharge. It's like being right or left-handed, it's not a choice.

 

[Jockey79]

Saying CSGO is mindless pew pew shooter is just as much trolling. Ever watched a Major Championship for CSGO. The amount of tactics involved there would make this game look like a sidewinder vs Anaconda. And im not trolling anymore, i already said i give up and i will just go to StarCitizen anyway. Lets hope they make a proper mMO.

As SC is stealing stuff from here, and is going to be P2P as well.....

Glad you admit you were trolling to start with, now, where is a Mod when you need one !?!?!

 

[nedeaalex]

As SC is stealing stuff from here, and is going to be P2P as well.....

Glad you admit you were trolling to start with, now, where is a Mod when you need one !?!?!

Going to be P2p??? What ? It is just like Elite, a one time purchase. I was trolling just because other people were trolling aswell. Like saying LoL does not actually have more players than ED ? Is that even a possible thing to say ?

 

[SteveLaw]

Going to be P2p??? What ? It is just like Elite, a one time purchase. I was trolling just because other people were trolling aswell. Like saying LoL does not actually have more players than ED ? Is that even a possible thing to say ?

Peer to Peer not Pay to Play.

 

[W0OCQCK]

It is. But I am sure FD see the people leaving their game out of boredom too

You know, I play solo, and group, and I'm not bored. I think your being a little weird here.

 

[HeimdallofHavn]

I am back to the game after a 5 month break after getting annoyed at the trip to Hutton Orbital.

In beta and after launch I always played in open. It DOES make the world feel more alive when meeting other commanders.

Though when I came back I have only played solo. All these threads, CODE, bla bla....

It just reminds me of EVE and I want no part of that.

pvp works beautifully in shooter games designed for it.

Though, then it is an equal and fair fight, and everyone signed up to the rules.

Here it seems you have wings abusing obviously powerless opponents. What is the fun in that? For either side?

I am a leader of one of the leading clans of the shooter, and playing noob clans is neither fun or a challenge. Not for us, not for them...

I would dearly love to play open, but the crime and punishment system is not close to being good enough. 1.3 changes doesn't seem to go far enough.

Going to an anarchy system I would expect to get ganged up upon. In "civilized" space I would not. Once in a blue moon perhaps like a real life city, but criminals/trolls just abusing players at will without consequence is not right. The police force in civilized space need more bite. That is actually one thing EVE did get right. Though people get away with it through suicuide ganking.

So.

1. Give us an effective Punisher style arm of the law

2. Criminal activities and especially murder and assault should have real consequences in civilized space, to the point that you need to hide away in anarchy systems to avoid the long arm of the law

3. Anarchy systems and the like should bring huge profit opportunities, but will be balanced by offering a huge risk. Going from Earth to Hutton Orbital should be relatively risk free, except the danger of dying of boredom.

Just my 3 cents.

Heim.

 

[W0OCQCK]

Don't know if this is the right place for it but for those who really love PvP (and get tired of hearing that ED is more than just that ), it seems that just the right game is now in the making, by some of the people behind X-wing, etc...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/impellerstudios/starfighter-inc

Since this would give people who want purely PvP and nothing else, I really hope that project succeeds so it will take a bit of the pressure off of ED. Since Elite is currently the only (good) space sim, everyone wants it to be what they always hoped to find in a space sim, not what the Frontied Devs have always wanted it to be.
I personally wouldn't mind the people who are 'bored' and give the PvPers a bad name would find some other place to headbut other people. And this seems just the game for them.

See this is a game I would love to try, no silly PVE stuff in the mix, just shoot the heck out of the opposition.

Unfortunately a lot of PVP'ers in this sort of game are more into blindsiding, (meaning ED), and ganking unsuspecting player that have no interest in real PVP, IE fair fights. The mind set behind this style very much escapes me, as I've always found fair fights, with evenly matched forces to be the funnest fights.

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Not only that but many people, like myself, are Introverts. I'm not shy, and I'm perfectly capable of social interaction, and often choose it, but it drains my energy and I need to be alone to recharge. It's like being right or left-handed, it's not a choice.

This is so true. I feel the exact same way.

 

[fademist]

Well elite has what 1 million at max players ?

if that number is right then elite have more players than eve's active accounts and that i think is really good

 

[Jockey79]

Going to be P2p??? What ? It is just like Elite, a one time purchase. I was trolling just because other people were trolling aswell. Like saying LoL does not actually have more players than ED ? Is that even a possible thing to say ?

P2P not P2p - please read properly.

And some information from Chris Roberts himself;

One of my goals with Star Citizen was to create a huge open world that you could adventure in solo, with your friends, mingling with NPCs and other real people.

Hmmm... I've heard of something like that before...

And;

In Star Citizen there is going to be one persistent universe server that everyone exists on. So you will never be separated from your friends, and if you want you’ll be able to join up and adventure together, you can. Due to the fidelity of the dogfighting and physics simulation we can’t however handle thousands of players in the same area of space. Even if you had enough internet bandwidth to handle the data going back and forth and a super computer for the server there’s no PC, even with quad SLI that could render that many spaceships with Star Citizen’s fidelity.
So the “magic” of Star Citizen’s multiplayer design is how we combine a persistent universe with a more traditional (and easier to implement) temporary multiplayer “battle” instance.

Wait a minute, I know I've read that before;


From the Kickstarter;
*And the best part - you can do all this online with your friends, or other "Elite" pilots like yourself, or even alone. The choice is yours...*
*you will be able to control who else you might encounter in your game – perhaps limit it to just your friends? Cooperate on adventures or chase your friends down to get that booty. The game will work in a seamless, lobby-less way, with the ability to rendezvous with friends

And;

From the forum archives;
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6300

All Players Group– Players in this group will be matched with each other as much as possible to ensure as many human players can meet and play together
Private Group – Players in this group will only be matched with other players in the same private group
Solo Group – Players in this group won’t be matched with anyone else ever (effectively a private group with no one else invited)
(All by a Lead Designer)

 

[Dave1235]

We could make a guild and then not talk to each other. That'd show them.

Could we do it on teamspeak too, that would show we were really serious about it

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I had changeoids once. The doctor gave me some ointment, cleared 'em up no problem.

Do the sell it in bulk, is it prescription or can you buy in the chemists? maybe FD should give some away for free when people sign up to the forum.

 

[nedeaalex]

if that number is right then elite have more players than eve's active accounts and that i think is really good

It is xD The thing is out of 1 mil probably 300k left the game already.

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P2P not P2p - please read properly.

And some information from Chris Roberts himself;




Hmmm... I've heard of something like that before...

And;



Wait a minute, I know I've read that before;


From the Kickstarter;
*And the best part - you can do all this online with your friends, or other "Elite" pilots like yourself, or even alone. The choice is yours...*
*you will be able to control who else you might encounter in your game – perhaps limit it to just your friends? Cooperate on adventures or chase your friends down to get that booty. The game will work in a seamless, lobby-less way, with the ability to rendezvous with friends

And;

From the forum archives;
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6300

All Players Group– Players in this group will be matched with each other as much as possible to ensure as many human players can meet and play together
Private Group – Players in this group will only be matched with other players in the same private group
Solo Group – Players in this group won’t be matched with anyone else ever (effectively a private group with no one else invited)
(All by a Lead Designer)

He said adventure in SOlo meaning Lonewolf. He already stated there will be a masterserver and you will have to play on that for PU.

 

[fademist]

It is xD The thing is out of 1 mil probably 300k left the game already.

sure many have left/stopped but we cant throw numbers from our bellies ;p

 

[nedeaalex]

Fine you guys win !! I will stop trying to change this game. I guess im just gonna play little bits of it so i dont get bored. I still want this to be so much more but my saying is just a drop in a pond

 

[Bomba Luigi]

Fine you guys win !! I will stop trying to change this game. I guess im just gonna play little bits of it so i dont get bored. I still want this to be so much more but my saying is just a drop in a pond

Someone saying this must definitly be a premier in this hughe mega thread, you have my respect for that

 

[W0OCQCK]

It is xD The thing is out of 1 mil probably 300k left the game already.

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He said adventure in SOlo meaning Lonewolf. He already stated there will be a masterserver and you will have to play on that for PU.

He also said that there will be private, unlimited, mod-able servers, for those not wanting to participate in the gank fest too. So when were on our own private servers, we'll be out of your hair. With that said, you can bet there will be more than a few significant private servers.

 

[nedeaalex]

Elite will be so much more. Maybe not what you are specifically are asking for. But that's good. Just enjoy the ride.

Are you not looking forward to 1.3?

Oh you bet I am! Just a little confused in who i should be supporting

 

[Robert Maynard]

Oh you bet I am! Just a little confused in who i should be supporting

Aren't we all....

 

[Jockey79]

Oh you bet I am! Just a little confused in who i should be supporting

That one is easy - the one who pays the most