Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread [See new thread]

Status
Thread Closed: Not open for further replies.
I would rather see a new mode where switching is not allowed.

Either as a new private group mode where group owners can tell if a players is switching or as new locked open pvp mode.
 
Last edited:
I'll never do open play, How tho, if I built 50 condas and jumped in open to have every one of em blown to bits by a better player in a sidewinder an advantage? You can jump in solo too and build yourself a task force. Doesn't mean ya won't die badly from other players, single or multiple. Everyone has the same advantages and disadvantages. ED "Devs" rock.
 
A recreated Galaxy, so well crafted, not two systems are equal.
400,000,000,000ish of them distributed in such vast distances that we need to travel several times the speed of light to go from point A to point B in our imaginary ships.
Game can only be downloaded and installed from a computer that is connected to the rest of the world thru internet.
Game is supposed to be a sim of the real Galaxy.
And yet, some are here stubbornly whining about wanting to play Solo.

Almost, and solely the excuse I have read of: I dont want to get killed by other players.

Really??? You are playing a game called Elite: DANGEROUS but you want to get rid of the Dangerous part of it???
I guess that's why Call of Duty, WoW, CoC, etc. are such a failure...for delivering the thrill of what's needed to outsmart another player!
And even though, E:D is so noble, it allows for you to make it thru the game without engaging in a single combat if you don't want to be killed. But here you are still complaining.

Let me tell you this: I have been playing for over 100hrs since acquisition, NOT A SINGLE HOUR I HAVE PLAYED IN SOLO MODE. (Involuntarily did so during the mandatory time before the first jump).
And I was killed once, by another CMDR. And that was about it. I've killed only one NPC that interdicted me and drove me nuts...that's all. I have spent my hours mining, trading and exploring.
It feels shallow, childish almost, that you consider being killed by another human more important than the interaction with them. Like the little child that wants to play but only if they win.

Ultimately, the way you play says more about you than about the game being broken.

If I had it my way, you will be stuck with the rest of us, a la Second Life, in a Universe that is big enough for everybody, and pay deaf ears to your complains: dealing with other humans is part of the fun, as awful and as <snip> some of them might be.

Funny thing is that in those 100hrs I might have interacted with only 3 or 4 players...for open in this game is still pretty solo....
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Of course, no one is saying that a design will be changed because of a single player is airing a concern.

This mode has been here since the beginning, but it doesn't mean that all decisions made were correct.

Even world renowned gaming companies do make bad decision once in a while and a good company should act and realise on those bad decisions sooner than later.

I do not feel this was a bad decision? this was a strategic decision to balance this game to disallow unnecessary greifing and the like. It's brilliantly done, and best of all, it works.

Frontier gave you an open PVP mode out the goodness of there hearts. This is primary a PVE universe, with a PVP option given out of kindness.

I sincerely believe Elite's open play will gravitate to a higher quality of PVP, no a Donkey can't fly around blowing newb's up, "because they'll leave for another option". Try and get use too it, quit whining, "please".
 
Last edited:
Its what you call a "which one came first, chicken or egg" scenario.

If you recommend those players who only choose to play Open Play to go switch to Single Player mode to negate all human pirate risks, then Ill throw back the "most used rebuttal" from most of those who prefers to switch modes: We are given a choice and no body can force anyone to choose what type of playstyle I will do.

This is a never ending cycle, which is a clear indication that the mechanic is FLAWED.

As mentioned, Im not saying to remove single player totally. What i'm proposing to to keep Single Player Mode and Open Play Mode as seperate. All progression made in Single Player Mode stays in Single Player and have a totally unique CMDR on Open Play.

and as I mentioned, this thread is not about convenience nor personal preference. I prefer to look at it as discussing game design.

Nope, not FLAWED, just not understood. As I said, very very big open game where one can find places to build with little to no interference in whatever mode you're in, and if you do see people, well there can be others means to do so, oh and of course forcing people into situations they hate means they quit like has happened countles times in other games. Funny how Shroud of the Avatar is doing the same thing and they have plenty of highly experienced game designers on board too...Ever think your thinking and knowledge is flawed?

Again, someone mentioned a mode where no switching is allowed, that could be Iron Man, but with the way the game shares instances via P2P and again the size of the galaxy you're still going to have plenty of areas of lightly or zero inhabited space where you can build.
 
quote_icon.png
Originally Posted by Amaze I would rather see a new mode where switching is not allowed.

You have got to be kidding? New players get confident enuff to join open but you would ban them instead? Cut off your nose to spite your face there.
 
Funny thing is that in those 100hrs I might have interacted with only 3 or 4 players...for open in this game is still pretty solo....

:D you might want to try going someplace that is the Elite equivalent of a nightclub at kick-out time :)

Dozens of inebriates all out looking to show how big and strong they are, how great their mates are, and if you even look at them funny - they'll make you eat your own teeth. Of course, those reprobates wouldn't know a fourier transform, a carb clean, or even know how to wire a plug - but they do still exist :)

I suggest Lave :D
 
And yet, some are here stubbornly whining about wanting to play Solo.

Almost, and solely the excuse I have read of: I dont want to get killed by other players.


If you force me into open at all times you will have to put up with my very high ping and all the
awful lag and warp I will bring to the game. :p

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -

quote_icon.png
Originally Posted by Amaze I would rather see a new mode where switching is not allowed.

You have got to be kidding? New players get confident enuff to join open but you would ban them instead? Cut off your nose to spite your face there.

I am not saying anything about banning people from open.
There would still be open where it would be open to all and with switching, same as group and solo.
A new mode for all those who feel it is unfair or unbalanced could be added.
 
Cool idea, so then we will have Solo, Open, Private Group, and Empty.

As I said before it could be a private group where the group owner would be able to see if the player switched to any other mode and kick them out if they do.

I do agree however it will probably not get many players but at least the complaints about open and switching would be less.
 
Last edited:
Cool idea, so then we will have Solo, Open, Private Group, and Empty.
Nah, I am sure there would be a few players that spent a decent amount of time there; we could call it "Hardcore...ish", since it would be for those not hardcore enough for Ironman.
 
As I said before it could be a private group where the group owner would be able to see if the player was a "clean" non switcher and kick them out if not.
I'm not for splits in the existing global groups, but I'd be all for those kind of features for private ones and an ability to make private-but-open-enrollment groups so such players don't need to rely on out of game methods to find each other.
 
As I said before it could be a private group where the group owner would be able to see if the player was a "clean" non switcher and kick them out if not.

I do agree however it will probably not get many players but at least the complaints about open and switching would be less.

They wouldn't be less at all, they'd just take a different approach to attacking Solo. Lets be real here, the underlying reason for the complaints about Solo is from the people that want everyone forced into their crosshairs on Open, they just can't outright admit that so they are finding other things to justify their attempts to force people into Open. They know it, we know it, and Frontier knows it, which is why this thread gets pushed into a corner to keep the mess in a tidy place that can be ignored and heavily policed by the mods.
 
Status
Thread Closed: Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom