Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread [See new thread]

[SteveLaw]

Correct. I chose open because of the chance of encountering greater threat. I also play solo when the mood suits me. Regardless of what mode I play, I do not believe any mode should have an advantage playing the galactic Risk game.

Open has the advantage of Wings over Solo. Give me wings in Solo and then we can talk about NPCs. (Do they still use canons in Risk? It's been a long time since I played.)

Open has the advantage of player coordination. Give me that in Solo too.

 

[atak2]

Open has the advantage of Wings over Solo. Give me wings in Solo and then we can talk about NPCs. (Do they still use canons in Risk? It's been a long time since I played.)

If it was within my power I would certainly give you the ability to have npc Wings. I do not want to hamper solo players. I am one half the time.

 

[SteveLaw]

If it was within my power I would certainly give you the ability to have npc Wings. I do not want to hamper solo players. I am one half the time.

Fine that's settled then. We can adjourn there until we get Wings for Solo. Excellent day's work gentlemen. And they said this thread would never end, the fools!

 

[hunvagy]

Fine that's settled then. We can adjourn there until we get Wings for Solo. Excellent day's work gentlemen. And they said this thread would never end, the fools!

Previously, on The Solo vs Open....

(sorry, late afternoon brain meltdown in progress)

 

[Jockey79]

Fine that's settled then. We can adjourn there until we get Wings for Solo. Excellent day's work gentlemen. And they said this thread would never end, the fools!

LOL

I'm going to compile a list of Open bonuses now, as some came up I'd not thought of. Ready for the lease of life a thread merger with give this beast

 

[atak2]

Fine that's settled then. We can adjourn there until we get Wings for Solo. Excellent day's work gentlemen. And they said this thread would never end, the fools!

Not quite. Until the point Frontier can implement npc Wings and bring in npc bosses for solo I advocate that Solo needs an adjustment to make its contribution to the galactic Risk game equal to open.

 

[SteveLaw]

Not quite. Until the point Frontier can implement npc Wings and bring in npc bosses for solo I advocate that Solo needs an adjustment to make its contribution to the galactic Risk game equal to open.

It already is. Fantastic, we're on a roll.

 

[Dave1235]

Don't forget in open you can trade in a wing and get 5% of the other traders profit too.

I think FD should give this bonus to solo traders too until they bring in AI wings, its only fair

Not quite. Until the point Frontier can implement npc Wings and bring in npc bosses for solo I advocate that Solo needs an adjustment to make its contribution to the galactic Risk game equal to open.

Excellent it seems we agree at last (well apart from the NPC boss bit, its ED not WOW).

 

[atak2]

Excellent it seems we agree at last (well apart from the NPC boss bit, its ED not WOW).

I certainly do not want to transform Elite into WOW. When I refer to bosses, I'm purely referring to npcs that have equivalent skill levels to players found in open. If you have preferred terminology for these npcs please let me know.

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It already is. Fantastic, we're on a roll.

Back to trolling I see...

I have already made my position well known in that I believe solo (at present) has an advantage when interacting with the galactic Risk game.

 

[ianw]

I certainly do not want to transform Elite into WOW. When I refer to bosses, I'm purely referring to npcs that have equivalent skill levels to players found in open. If you have preferred terminology for these npcs please let me know.

That seems reasonable - and Sarah the AI programmer appears to be enthusiastically on the case so we shall see I guess.

 

[atak2]

That seems reasonable - and Sarah the AI programmer appears to be enthusiastically on the case so we shall see I guess.

Thank you. You have been fair with me. I applaud you for that. +1 rep.

 

[SteveLaw]

I have already made my position well known in that I believe solo (at present) has an advantage when interacting with the galactic Risk game.

Individual players in Solo, Open and Group play all have the exact same influence on the galactic Risk game of Elite's background simulation. Individual players are also free to eat each others' grass at any time, if you think it is any greener than yours.

 

[Jockey79]

So, the benefits so far, if I'm correct:

Open Mode;

Friendly player "interactions"
Non Friendly player "interactions"
Wings
Shared trade profits
Shared combat profits
More dynamic universe
More excitement from "interactions"
Easier to kill large targets with help


Solo Mode;

Notice phallic symbolism of the starports opening and the shape of some ships.
*Note to self - get an Anaconda (also phallic reference in the name??)

 

[atak2]

Individual players in Solo, Open and Group play all have the exact same influence on the galactic Risk game of Elite's background simulation. Individual players are also free to eat each others' grass at any time, if you think it is any greener than yours.

I have already stated more than once why I believe open players do not have ability to influence the galactic Risk game as competitively as solo players.

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So, the benefits so far, if I'm correct:

Open Mode;

Friendly player "interactions"
Non Friendly player "interactions"
Wings
Shared trade profits
Shared combat profits
More dynamic universe
More excitement from "interactions"
Easier to kill large targets with help


Solo Mode;

Notice phallic symbolism of the starports opening and the shape of some ships.
*Note to self - get an Anaconda (also phallic reference in the name??)

Open Mode;

Friendly player "interactions"
Non Friendly player "interactions"
Wings
Shared trade profits
Shared combat profits
More dynamic universe
More excitement from "interactions"
Easier to kill large targets with help


Solo Mode;

Notice phallic symbolism of the starports opening and the shape of some ships.
*Note to self - get an Anaconda (also phallic reference in the name??
Massive advantage in completing galactic Risk game goals.

 

[Jockey79]

Massive advantage in completing galactic Risk game goals.

Constantly saying it, doesn't make it any more true - just makes you look like you need to step away for some air as it has been disproven several times

 

[atak2]

Constantly saying it, doesn't make it any more true - just makes you look like you need to step away for some air as it has been disproven several times

It has not been disproven in any way, shape or form.

 

[nedeaalex]

No, I honestly have no idea. I'm not the one with an agenda. I just want you to stop telling me, and players like me, that my choice is less valid than yours and so you deserve some kind of reward.

When will you people finally understand it? Let me make it clear. We are not saying your choice is less valid than anything. I myself play in Solo half the time i spend ingame. All we are saying is that we WANT to play in open, but there are really only disatvantages playing that way. You get less money when in a wing, you get honked by trollers and you have lag. Most of all lag. Im saying and we all are that the reward for Open, should be a little higher, or just erase it completely, since at some point in time, everyone swtiches one by one to solo or groups. Open is like a tutorial, here is what the game is. Now go play the game without humans cuz they are trolls. And the ARE because frankly they have nothing else to do. 1 week ago, an anaconda killed me on sight. He has plasma accelerators and only end game stuff on it. So what is left for him in this game? I dont blame him for doing this, since he has nothing to do with his Anaconda. NPC's are probably a walk in the park.
What im saying is FD implemented the wings, but they actually discourage you to play in them. Me and my friend play on the same time in the same spot, but in solo, so we can actually get some money not pocket exchange...same goes for solo/open. Open is more risky, more laggy, but has nothing on the good side. Its like saying: here. Have this 2 onions. One is a little rotten, and one is exactly the same as the other one, but not rotten. Why would i choose the rotten one. Maybe if it said: the rotten one is actually a natural grown onion, and the other one is grown with chemicals. Maybe then i would actually have a decision to make! Do i take the healthier one, but i have less onion, since a bit is rotten, or do i get the chemicals one, but i eat the full onion. (inb4 some people pretend not to understand what each onion is...the rotten is Open, and the chemicals one is Solo...it is a perfect onion, but not so healthy on the long run. Just how Solo is, lets face it nowadays people want multiplayer. Not one of my friends will buy this game if i tell them you play in Solo mode 80% of the tims)

 

[SteveLaw]

It has not been disproven in any way, shape or form.

Individual players in Solo, Open and Group play all have the exact same influence on the galactic Risk game of Elite's background simulation. Individual players are also free to eat each others' grass at any time, if you think it is any greener than yours.

If you don't believe it switch modes and test it. If your tests prove it, submit your evidence to Frontier.
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All we are saying is that we WANT to play in open, but there are really only disatvantages playing that way.

Why would you chose to do something that only gives you disadvantages?

 

[nedeaalex]

If you don't believe it switch modes and test it. If your tests prove it, submit your evidence to Frontier.
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Why would you chose to do something that only gives you disadvantages?

Exactly? Why would i choose it? Thats why we are screaming for some adjustments. Otherwise, just delete Open enitrely

 

[SteveLaw]

Exactly? Why would i choose it? Thats why we are screaming for some adjustments. Otherwise, just delete Open enitrely

No, seriously, why would you choose it? It wasn't rhetorical.

No-one is making you choose Open. Some players choose Open and enjoy the advantages, you see only disadvantages so play Solo. That's why I play Solo but the last thing I want is to delete Open. The modes don't need adjusting you are free to choose.