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Now imagine the whole Mobius group taking offence to the Code infiltrating and ganking pve only players in their group, lets imagine there is a place close by where you can get bounties to help restore the lave cluster back to its natural state, 8k annoyed players all in a private group working against them just to prove a point.

Why hasn't it happened yet? As Jon Luc says 'Make it so!"
 
Just took a screenshot in game (loaded it for that sole purpose)

So, at 01:52 on May 10th 2015.....

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At a rough guess, I'd say there are a few people who'd vote "no" to messing with the modes or trying to give unfair advantages to one mode.

(Sorry Dave, I'm an evidence junkie :p )

[Edit, the file creation date for my sig pic - was on the 8th of May, so +100 members in 2 days - see spoiler below]
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Nobody is getting rid of mode switching. I think what ive stated is a natural progression that FD will take to allow the fully dynamic sandbox they want. The "achieving your goal" via switching to a easier mode at will circumvents and undermines the role of players in the game. It'll only become more and more important to remove this behavior as FD increases the player's involvement and role within the game and the more immersive they intend to make it.

I am stupid as I cannot understand this sentence as it seems to contradict itself:

"Nobody is getting rid of mode switching."

OK

"The "achieving your goal" via switching to a easier mode at will circumvents and undermines the role of players in the game. It'll only become more and more important to remove this behavior as FD increases the player's involvement and role within the game and the more immersive they intend to make it.[/QUOTE]"

So, you're advocating its removal?

What I don't think you realise is that its removal won't necessarily mean these people head off into the Open world, it will simply mean they quit and stop playing.

Also, what about those Xbox users who will also affect the same galaxy as the PC/Mac people?
 
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What I don't think you realise is that its removal won't necessarily mean these people head off into the Open world, it will simply mean they quit and stop playing.
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Or, as shown in this thread - people can use technical trickery to be in Open Mode, but never have any contact with another player - so, a homemade Solo mode.
 
Why hasn't it happened yet?

No idea, maybe it has but I am not sure.

As Jon Luc says 'Make it so!"

I agree, but mobius is an admin rather than a guild leader (no disrespect, it takes a lot of time to manage a group, time I am sure he would rather spend playing the game, I seriously doubt he would ask us to do anything (other than not upset someone else game in his group which is in the rules).

That does not stop anyone else from suggesting something on the forums, if someone suggests a better way to deal with a problem I am happy to listen, for now all I can do is hand in alliance bounty's where I see the name reinhart initellisys.

Tell me a system next door where I can get more alliance bounty's (currently they are 10% where I am, I sell them every few days & use the Asp to get there) and 90% of the bounty's I hand in will be for the alliance rather than the feds, post that info in a new post with the right title and you might just change the galaxy a little.
 
No idea, maybe it has but I am not sure.



I agree, but mobius is an admin rather than a guild leader (no disrespect, it takes a lot of time to manage a group, time I am sure he would rather spend playing the game, I seriously doubt he would ask us to do anything (other than not upset someone else game in his group which is in the rules).

That does not stop anyone else from suggesting something on the forums, if someone suggests a better way to deal with a problem I am happy to listen, for now all I can do is hand in alliance bounty's where I see the name reinhart initellisys.

Tell me a system next door where I can get more alliance bounty's (currently they are 10% where I am, I sell them every few days & use the Asp to get there) and 90% of the bounty's I hand in will be for the alliance rather than the feds, post that info in a new post with the right title and you might just change the galaxy a little.

That was my point. Mobius' group is united by a gentleman's agreement to play the game by a certain rule set. It is not a guild. It does not function as a guild. It could, but as you point out, that would be a tremendous amount of work and time...for a group this large. Stating that 8000 players would turn the game upside down, although definitely true, probably won't happen out of Mobius' group...because that is not what unites them...or motivates them. They just want to play the game without the worry of someone interfering with their game without their consent.

As far as where to turn in bounties for Alliance? Check the galaxy map and filter out everything but Alliance systems...it will show you the nearest planets.
 
Just took a screenshot in game (loaded it for that sole purpose)

So, at 01:52 on May 10th 2015.....

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At a rough guess, I'd say there are a few people who'd vote "no" to messing with the modes or trying to give unfair advantages to one mode.

(Sorry Dave, I'm an evidence junkie :p )

[Edit, the file creation date for my sig pic - was on the 8th of May, so +100 members in 2 days - see spoiler below]

No need to apologise when it come to showing evidence. The mobius number is growing quicker than the forum members, the only two numbers we really know and can prove.

Quick math update (Mobius / forum members) https://forums.frontier.co.uk/memberlist.php

8,100 / 44,570 = 18.17%

So nearly 20% of the forum members are also members of mobius, the percentage keeps growing so either FD are telling people about mobius when they join or ...... maybe they are looking for it themselves, that's the problem with sheep, they don't listen.
 
As far as where to turn in bounties for Alliance? Check the galaxy map and filter out everything but Alliance systems...it will show you the nearest planets.

Thanks, I know where to turn them in, anywhere I see reinhart intelesis (leesti I think).

Only 10% of my bounties are alliance (mostly fed) I was asking if anyone could suggest a place where 90% of the bounties I get are for the alliance (near leesti).
 
Yup we were born with SP - yet we made some SP games MP, because we had the skills to do so. Ever wired up a null modem cable and set RS232 parity and length?

The good old days with Doom 1v1 deathmatch :)

No need to apologise when it come to showing evidence. The mobius number is growing quicker than the forum members, the only two numbers we really know and can prove.

Quick math update (Mobius / forum members) https://forums.frontier.co.uk/memberlist.php

8,100 / 44,570 = 18.17%

So nearly 20% of the forum members are also members of mobius, the percentage keeps growing so either FD are telling people about mobius when they join or ...... maybe they are looking for it themselves, that's the problem with sheep, they don't listen.
But are all the Mobius members forum members?
 
Nobody is getting rid of mode switching. I think what ive stated is a natural progression that FD will take to allow the fully dynamic sandbox they want. The "achieving your goal" via switching to a easier mode at will circumvents and undermines the role of players in the game. It'll only become more and more important to remove this behavior as FD increases the player's involvement and role within the game and the more immersive they intend to make it.

Hmmm, I don't think so.
 
We're the ones who played the precursor space games for years, not just Elite but Wing Commander, Tie Fighter, and all the rest..

You have your "precursor" ordering wrong. Elite is 30yrs old. It predates all of those, it started out on a 32KB BBC micro. ED is the evolution of that game.

Anyway, back to reading the thread..

I play solo and private group (my own) so that I can fly with my boys.

For every one of you "nice social" open players I bet there is a psycho that just want to nail noobs.

The choice of "solo" or "private group" ensures that I will never met either of these individuals, and thats just fine.
 
Hehe, would be pretty meaningless with all that instancing. Besides, we are pretty content with the group as it is, 1.3 might also bring a tad more PVP i guess - at least meaningfull PVP with some story behind it. Haven't checked the forums over there yet, but i guess it will be handled like warzones.

I wouldn't be too sure. If +8000 players decided to log on at the same time and do coordinated actions, I'm pretty sure it would have a huge impact. :)

Not that it would ever happen though. As others have said already, Mobius PvE group is working by gentlemans agreement to let others go about their business, unless on opposing sides in a conflict zone of course. :)

Be there or be square. There, I said it. :)
 
Possibly in this thread, I do remember threads long before where the OP explained their great new idea, when it was explained back to them in the context of how the game actually works, and how their suggestion would actually have the opposite effect they did a 180 quicker than I could do with flight assist off.

I do agree it is rare, and he also has my respect too, I will +1 as soon as I hit post.

nedeaalex o7, nobody won anything, like ED its not a competition, I hope you continue to play ED for as long as I will, and I am intending to for many years, its been a long discussion and I do understand that the game does not meet your expectations in some ways. Rather than my copy & paste "some people did not research the game before buying, that's a problem with the buyer not the game" answer I will say this as I think you deserve a more personal answer.

Even if you play it less I honestly hope you do keep playing, you already bought it, its not subs based, you do not have to spend another penny on the game, the game will continue to improve. I hope some of the future development of the game (even though I doubt it will be the exact stuff you want right now) will appeal to you and maybe make you want to spend more time in ED.

Fly safe CMDR

Ohohoho i will. Just bought my new vulture and im ready for some action ^^
 
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